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My favorite was the "elephant in the room". I was gonna try to work "easy as pie" in there but didn't get the chance :smile:

BMI guidelines are just that: Guidelines. No one anywhere claimed BMI guidelines are the sole tool necessary to make a determination about overall health. That's a straw-man argument. None of this makes BMI guidelines "arbitrary".

Spin spin spin.

When we were kids our mom would give us grapes or carrots in the store to keep us occupied. At dinner time she didn't drive us to McDonald's and then ask us what we wanted besides chicken nuggets and french fries, she simply said "it's time for dinner" and we ate whatever was being served. She didn't read that non-existant…

Please look up the word "arbitrary", then look at the statistical analysis behind the diagnostic criteria used to diagnose obesity. The criteria is anything but "arbitrary". The fact that it cannot single-handedly predict outcomes with absolute certainty does not make it "arbitrary". These attempts to spin obesity…

There are plenty of people on this thread downplaying or outright denying that obesity is unhealthy. Heck that's the entire point of "fat acceptance" and "healthy at any size"; they're trying to sugar coat the issue and ignore the elephant in the room.

Where did I say I hold anyone in contempt? Also, what is being debated here is whether or not guidelines for obesity are arbitrary. They aren't.

Okay Rob, I'll ignore the AMA, CDC, NIH, and WHO since they didn't clear their statistical methods with you first and because they can't guarantee absolute 100% predictably of outcomes based on risk factors.

Using that logic, ALL decisions are arbitrary unless there is absolute certainty.

You arbitrarily pull numbers out of the air then pretend those arbitrary numbers somehow refute the actual statistical analysis??

Basing a criterion on its statistical significance using huge data sets is not at all "arbitrary".

How can it be arbitrary when it's based on statistical analysis? Anyway, quibbling over the diagnostic criteria doesn't change the plain fact that obesity is unhealthy.

A Cosmopolitan or Martini would be decent I bet

For me it's whiskey seltzer and lime.

I bench press heavy without a spotter all the time. As soon as my form gets bad I put the bar back on the rack. I don't go to failure. I am getting progressively stronger doing it this way. you do not need to go to failure to get stronger. If there's ever a problem I can always put the bar on the little safety pegs. Of…

Yep 48 hrs. You'll be less sore as you get used to exercising regularly.

Get some lifting straps or they even make hooks

Free fries have no calories B)

There's no way I can eat 5-6 times per day consistently. I've been doing intermittent fasting, basically I skip breakfast every day and eat lunch and dinner. It's simple and sustainable.

I'm with you Jerry I plan what I do and I track what I've done. I take a clipboard with me to the gym every time.

Try about 1 gram of protein and 0.5-0.8 grams of fat per pound of lean body mass. I'm 45 and recover pretty well lifting heavy (heavy for me anyway 5 sets 5 reps) My thumbs are staying in place at least. Don't get me wrong though I have my aches and pains as well. I use udo's oil or peanut butter as fat supplements when i…

The first week or two are always the worst but it will pass. Stick with the same weight for now then increase later.

Duct tape maybe?

If machines get you into the gym, then yay machines! The people in the study were not physically capable of doing free weights, so fortunately the machine was workable for them. As long as you are consistently progressing in weight lifted or reps, you'll see results with machines. I still use cables for a couple things…

If you must drink alcohol, use the calorie tracker on this site (or the app) and be sure to include those drinks in your total calories. Seeing how many calories you are drinking might help you keep the alcohol to a minimum. Even if it doesn't, if you can at least keep your alcohol consumption within your calorie goal,…

I don't know what definition of obesity you are using, but we're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm going with the CDC's definition of obesity: "Weight that is higher than what is considered as a healthy weight for a given height is described as overweight or obese. " A weight that is higher than what is healthy would…

You didn't ask for an article to speak to people's attitude towards overweight people, nor did I claim there was one. I said there was agreement "that disgust evolved to motivate the avoidance of contact with disease-causing organisms". You asked for a citation to support that. The article supports my statement. Now you're…

Physicists are still pondering the pretzel-to-chex equation and have thus far been unable to crack it. I'm sorry but for now you question has no answer.

Give it another two weeks. If you still haven't made progress, then maybe reduce your calorie target by 5 or 10%. Weight fluctuates from day to day, and sometimes the body retains water in response to calorie deficit, so you really need at least 4 weeks of data to make a decent evaluation. Remember that your BMR and TDEE…

Do you think a BMI of 30 was chosen at random? Or do you think maybe just maybe it's based on the implications to health?