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It may have been explained, but I don't need explaining. I was making a point that CICO may not really be something people have to care about if counting isn't your thing (regardless of the fact that the equation is there in the background). It may be that you have difficulty identifying who is thinking what.

I never said otherwise. I just was expressing that I really hate spending time looking at more numbers than I have to, and I have found that I'm not alone. And I'm just referring to methods that I have found to be successful. Im sure others have different experiences with success on a broad scale as well.

On a clinical level, I'm sure Insulin cannot be ignored as a factor in diabetes, as every patient I have encountered gains weight when administered insulin. And not an insignificant amount of weight either. However our pancreas' ability to secrete insulin (and our cells ability to receive signals from insulin) is essential…

I know a few people who absolutely need to count calories for weight management success, but the vast majority of people that I know in real life (as well as in the clinic) with sustained significant success all seem to have whole food based diets and don't have the need to count calories.

In answer to OP's title, I have found through clinical experience that Diabetes can easily be reversed regardless of family history with whole food low carbohydrate dieting combined with fasting. Pure calorie reduction (without attention to other variables) seems to work to a much less dramatic extent when it does work,…

Coincidentally, multiple physicians in my country have partnered to try to influence the government to completely change the guidelines to be more in line with evidence (along the same lines as the original post) and more in line with successful results in our clinical practices - we have just submitted a detailed letter…

Correct, Hominid does refer to all living and great apes. Much of the 2.5 million years I referenced is that of Homo Erectus who is not among the evolutionary dead ends (about 1.9 of those million years), and yes Homo Sapiens is much younger at approx 160,000 years. I was not referring to the evolutionary dead ends such as…

I live in Canada, so you are absolutely right, I do not have access to unpasteurized dairy. I would be ok with it though. At least for fermented dairy. I don't have much use for straight up milk. I do have access to an extremely high fat grass fed buffalo yogurt, although pasteurized, so that is my go to (buffalo being…

Behind the walls - yes I agree with what you said, but I was half alluding to it being metaphorically "behind the wall" in the early stages just for brevity. Even without walls, strength in numbers + presumed premeditated geographical advantage > Nomad random location while being attacked. Yes, I would agree that really if…

Alright guys I have to take off here, but may be back on the weekend. Thanks for those who replied and thanks for everyone for keeping the topic civil. Thanks Lemurcat for inviting discussion.

Only if they are selected for and against. After civilization it is really hard for nature to make you pay an evolutionary penalty for having a mutation that makes you run too slow, or makes you glow in the dark. You are behind walls (safe from predator danger) and you have a food supply within those walls in the form of…

There's always some selection pressure. There are many types. The two main ones are starvation and predator danger. Once you have a food supply that you can grow yourself and once you have permanent residences (and nobody would pick a permanent resident without defense advantage), starvation and predator danger don't…

Ah ok. Well, I don't know. to be perfectly honest. My first inclination would be, NO, it's probably not expected. But I can't control that. I can control the corn chip. And given how much food we ingest over our lifetimes I don't think that part of the equation is insignificant. The air and water etc (well, I do control my…

Yeah, I don't deny portion sizes. But I think of it in other ways. If somebody asked me for extra helpings of that big fatty steak I just ate, or that big bowl of blueberries, or that plate of sweet potatoes, or that kale fried in bacon fat, or that bacon or that juicy duck leg.... I'd say, no way. I'm freaking full!!!!!!!…

What I've read is that "evolution" of lactose intolerance isn't evolution, it is genetic drift, also known as Spontaneous Nucleotide Polymorphism. Similar to Tay Sachs disease. They are random genetic alterations, and may be beneficial, detrimental or neutral. But that is not the same as evolution. Evolution requires…

I'll just copy and paste what I wrote in another thread to address this: Someone else wrote: I'm struggling with your position of the body "expecting" things since as a species, we're evolutionarily adaptable. Me: Except my argument is that for evolution to take place, you don't just need people, environment and the…

That's because there is no environment emulating very strong selection pressure. the point of there not being any strong selection pressure is to state that we haven't evolved since 10 thousand years ago. selection pressure is needed for evolution. I never suggest creating an environment with strong selection pressure,…

Among physicians its getting more common. We don't want to be what we diagnose all day.

You didn't bring up the term, but neither did I. Stevencloser did.

No worries. I don't really like the paleo label b/c well it refers to a too-rigid diet. And what I do isn't about imitating ancestors, but rather exercising options today that are more in line (again, on a spectrum) with genetic expectations than options that are less in line. I use the words "more" and "less" because it…

I'm on board with that. And very happy for you!!! :) !!!!!!!

Completely agree. fat loss is certainly helpful. It's just not the immunity card people think it is.

Agreed. genetics are important. I wouldn't survive a day in prison. I'm too nice. Plus some of the muscle they pack on is insane. How do you know they are NOT dying from their stay in prison? How do you know that many of them are living decades? A study would be very interesting. But I'll say this, we do scan prisoners and…

Sorry, I meant to imply that I was assuming that paleolithic people had less. I may have read that somewhere, but I cannot say if the source was that credible. However, atherosclerosis is not really the big deal. That is normal biology. Atherosclerosis manifesting as coronary heart disease or peripheral vascular disease is…

No, that's why I don't have a definition of junk food. There are foods I prefer to eat and those I don't. I mean because the term is thrown around there must be some definition out there that people adhere to when they mean junk food, and you have stated that for you that definition is high cal low nutrition. My definition…

When people who spout crazy ideas like me speak of certain foods being unhealthy, it is not the same as the FDA's version of unhealthy, which deals with ACUTE unhealthiness of a food. We are referring to CHRONIC unhealthy effects. Again, this is of course difficult to prove, unless one does a study examining chronic…

Except my argument is that for evolution to take place, you don't just need people, environment and the passage of time. You need strong selection pressure. The biggest selection pressures over 2.5 million years were starvation and predator danger. You had to be damn proficient at being badass to survive to reproductive…

Sure. I'm at work and I haven't made it in a while (it is a bit high maintenance and I'm busier these days) so I can't rattle if off by heart. I'll have to post it later. It's not just the crust though, the toppings make it. Also I should add that it will not appeal to anyone who is concerned about limiting calories. I…

Totally cool. I do have lots of friends who eat popcorn!!! And I don't make claims about their health, just to be clear. I myself don't use Otzi as an example of a paleolithic man - because he wasn't. Neither are the mummies they refer to. Otzi lived well within the neolithic period (post advent of agriculture) along with…

No, you got my claim right. I think you partially answered your first question to me. You identified an ingredient that you feel is harmful and would not choose junk foods with that ingredient. I am the same (and I also include man made transfats. I'm totally fine with congugated linolenic acid in grass fed products…