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Fair enough. Even if it doesn't cure diabetes—even if it doesn't cure anything—I'm not aware of any potential long-term health problems that might be caused by a plant-based high-carb low-fat diet.

I think we're talking past each other. You just said yourself it's the food. We can't talk about calories and satiety without talking about food.

I was just praying the other night, if only my cancer had AIDS... :smiley: I'm actually specifically curious about the long-term cardiovascular risks of low-carb high-fat. They could be minimal or they could be great. I really don't know. Until I see pictures of heart disease reversed by bacon and eggs, I'm gonna stay a…

I don't feel qualified to jump into that myself. But it looks to me like one random person on the internet criticizing both a HCLF diet and the ADA diet for not being good enough. And attacking the researchers for being PETA funded—again, I'm not qualified to comment on Neal Barnard's animal-rights activism or whatever…

B12 – Made by bacteria. Don't wash the potatoes. Drink dirty water. A – Fair. Eat sweet potatoes instead. D – Go outside. Stand in the sun for a bit. There, you can now live forever on one food. :wink:

Ah, that "someone who's 100lbs overweight" wasn't me specifically, just a generalization. I'm just saying if someone's ended up obese, there's probably an issue deeper than just not having self-control. I can't imagine anyone would choose to be overweight if it was that simple to change it. I think here's where we…

Oh, no, that not's rude at all. Totally a fair question. I'm 175lbs now and could easily lose another 40-50lbs. (I'm only 5'5", if that seems rather light for a guy.) As far as working because I have a lot of weight to lose, go look up pictures of all the doctors who promote plant-based diets, such as John McDougall,…

Eating a single food for the rest is both crazy and pretty close to the traditional diet of ancestral humans and native populations. I have to say, telling someone who's 100lbs overweight to "eat like a person who has self-control" probably isn't going to help them much. But let's be honest, you're losing me at the word…

Thanks for responding. Congrats on that transformation. And I agree, always keep learning and experimenting. An open mind is probably more important then getting it "right."

Thanks for responding, even though the question wasn't addressed to you. I'd say your definition of moderation fits at least two of the three things I wrote in another post: calorie counting, smaller portions, and conscious effort. If that works for you, great. But I don't think we're in any fundamental disagreement about…

Low calorie, high quantity? Potatoes. They'll fill you up. You can season them, but no butter or oil or anything like that. If you think potatoes are too high calorie, here's the thing: if you're hungry, it means you're not eating enough.

If you stop eating animal products entirely, you'll want a B12 supplement. But other than that, you're probably fine. Don't waste your money.

No, they don't have to be cold. Cook them, season them, bake them, mash them, just do whatever you can with a simple potato. I guess it's kind of like the egg or cabbage diet, but you could actually survive off only potatoes indefinitely if you had to.

Serious question. This is honest curiousity. I really don't mean to be rude. You lost weight and maintained the weight loss for 3 years. Why are you still here?

Sure. Let's see... Counting calories. Smaller portions. Conscious effort. There might be more, but I think most of us could agree that at least one of those things define a typical weight loss diet. The difference for me now is I don't even think about any of that. I just eat when I'm hungry. Calories? More is better.…

Just anecdotally, I think it's harder for most people to eat small amounts of something than to just not eat it at all. It's easier to say "I don't eat that" than to say "Oh, I'll just have couple." Take nuts for example. Nuts aren't bad for you at all. But you can scarf down 1000 calories in a few handfuls if you're not…

I think you missed my first post. I didn't eat only potatoes. I only did that for a few days as an experiment after reading Penn Jillette's book. My diet is mostly grains, legumes, fruits, and vegetables. There's nothing really extreme about it. I even drink beer and eat oil-free crackers. It became totally normal for me…

What do you mean? Honestly. I've never seen anyone do moderation in any way that isn't just low-level deprivation.

I don't have time to look up studies, but here's an article about Walter Kempner's rice diet: https://www.drmcdougall.com/2013/12/31/walter-kempner-md-founder-of-the-rice-diet/ And here's a quote from the article, because I'm an idiot who isn't qualified to discuss any of this: "His numbers also showed how a…

Well, I said you probably shouldn't stick to one thing. But I've seen people do moderation. Moderation is for people who want to spend years and years and years "on a diet." But if moderation has worked for you, I'm glad you've found something that helps you get healthier.

Weird, even the paleo people claim they can cure Type 2 diabetes by not eating sugar. So alright, you most likely won't cure Type 1 diabetes, but Type 2 is a disease of civilization just like everything else. It doesn't even make sense for it to exist unless the food environment has been destroyed. Which it has.

Maybe. I really don't care what anyone does. I can just vouch that eating only potatos won't kill you and will help you lose weight. Everyone hates the word "vegan" because of the crazies and that it seems so limiting, but I've never felt freer since I stopped eating meat, dairy, and vegetable oils. When I go out to eat, I…

I'm glad to see SpudFit mentioned, but it sucks a lot of people are hating on him. Dude just today finished a year of eating nothing but potatoes and lost over 100lbs. I was actually chatting with him on Twitter yesterday and ate a plain potato tonight to celebrate his acheivement. Yes, it goes against everything anyone…