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I agree, I think their 3rd conclusion (that the fast and moderate groups were more likely to achieve successful weight loss and maintenance, presumably because of the initial rate of weight loss) is questionable for the reasons you say. I think this is what they were referring to in the limitations of the study where they…

More to do with what? This is the take-home point for me (from the conclusion): "Fast weight losers . . . were not more susceptible to weight regain than gradual weight losers." I don't think self-selection is a confounding issue here since the weight re-gain was similar among the 3 groups. In some ways it more closely…

Sorry for the confusion :). I actually didn't realize I was posting in this group at the time (since I came to it from a link in my newsfeed) or I would have said gluteofemoral fat. I feel like I can use bigger words in this group than in the forums. :)

Wise words. There is a way to offer a different viewpoint without coming across as rude. It just takes a little more effort.

Yes you weigh the same as a walrus but don't worry, I don't think anyone would say that to your face.

Exactly. I really need to stop engaging in this argument but I just can't help myself. ETA -- Congrats OP! A bit confused though -- you say you lost 19 lbs but weigh the same? Is this because a pound of you weighs the same as a pound of you? (sorry, couldn't resist). Sometimes beginners to weight training can build some…

Please stop saying this. It hurts my brain. Do you think nothing weighs more than anything else because a pound is a pound?

There are plenty of non dairy protein powders. Egg, soy, rice, sprouted grain, hemp, and pea protein options are available. My favorites are the Garden of Life brand and the Nutribiotic rice protein powder. If you eat eggs, egg white protein is one of the better sources as far as bioavailability and amino acid profile IMO.

Any diet that has "delirium" as a side effect raises a big red flag for me, call me crazy...

I agree. To me, "diet" implies restricting intake for the purpose of losing weight, something the majority of people here are doing. It does not have any negative connotations to me.

My issue with the term "lifestyle change" is that your eating habits are not your entire lifestyle. It makes it sound like you are giving up your worldly posessions and moving into a cave. If I don't want something (I am vegetarian and fairly picky about what I eat) I usually just say no, thank you, I'm good. That's…

I'll tell you a secret, don't tell anyone else on the site: restricting calories is a diet. It's not a 4-letter word. Oh wait...

Yes, but I'd argue that it is also in my personal interest, when I can afford to pay more, to support companies that do not exploit their workers (or environemntal resources/lab animals/insert your cause here). Basically, it's in my interest because it makes me feel like a good person, and I think that's valuable to…

Very interesting and well-considered argument. How much of this do you think this comes down to public demand? We love cheap fast food and Walmart. We love cheap clothes and iphones made overseas in working conditions we'd prefer not to think about. As long as the public demand for these services and products is there, I…

I'm shocked at how many people think this is simply a failure of willpower or discipline or laziness or some other psychological failing. There are many physiological mechanisms pushing to put the weight back on. This should be obvious from the 80% + regain rate. All of these people are not lazy. In addition to this paper…

Carbs elevate leptin (for the short short term, in the long term it is tied to fat stores). Google it and you'll get a lot of hits. Picking a paper at random: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10567012 Leptin declines with any calorie restriction, not just fasting or VLCD.

I don't think "encouraged to maintain the new eating...habits" means they were encouraged to continue eating the same amount. They were also receiving counseling so I assume they were getting nutritional advice. Common sense would suggest they were counseled on appropriate calorie intake for maintenance and were encouraged…

Very cool! I did a similar thing once when i was visiting Australia. When I got to the bottom I realized that I hadn't closed my carabiner properly. That kind of freaked me out retroactively. Other than that it was fun -- just check your carabiner!

It's because the TDEE calculator (the one that gave you 2140) included your exercise -- those calculators ask you to input your activity including exercise. The MFP calculator includes regular daily activity only -- it just asks you about your job and lifestyle. Assuming you will exercise and burn 400-500 cals a day and…

The episode where Joyce dies is unbelievable. I haven't seen an hour of TV like that before or since.

They are saying that the difference between 2.6kg and 1.3kg did not reach statistical significance in their study. This would depend on the total amount of weight lost and how they ran their stats. Their p value* was <0.9 though -- I am not a statistician but generally p<0.05 can be considered significant, so I'm not sure…

I would take that as a good lesson learned! Sometimes the idea of something is much better than the reality.

You can budget the pizza (or whatever) into your daily calories or into your weekly calories. Some people might prefer a small treat each day while others might prefer to take a "diet break" now and then and have a bigger treat. There can be both psychological and physiological benefits to eating at maintenance or above…

Agreed. The only thing you should feel after a cheat day is full. Eating should not = guilt. If you maintain a weekly deficit, you will still lose weight.

This assumes that there is no "fast and steady" category. I agree this analogy breaks down pretty quickly though.

This bears repeating.

He's not attempting to get a conclusion, he is simply stating the researcher's conclusions in the study. Why do you say the fast losers gained the most weight back? From the paper: "No significant group differences were found in weight regain between 6 and 18 months (2.6, 1.8, and 1.3 kg, respectively, ps < 0.9). The FAST…

What are these races that slow and steady wins? Didn't work for me in my half marathon...

Yeah, I know, I'm not sure about it. I think the idea is that your body is more likely to use the calories (high protein/carb) you provide it on lifting days to repair/build muscle than it is to store excess calories as fat because the need for muscle repair and hormonal conditions optimizing repair (eg high insulin…

Consider calorie cycling. Above maintenance on lift days, below maintenance on rest days. As long as the calories balance out for the week you will maintain, but may still get some benefits of bulking. I just started leangains IF with +20% 3x/wk, -20% 4x/wk and am subjectively seeing better results that when I ate at…