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One of my resources was from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Read all my posts before you assume that my sources are all amateur blog posts.

That was for people who usually eat normally (i.e. they do not have the capability to use large amounts of fat as a direct energy source) . When you are carb depleted and running mainly on fat, things are different. Edit: Your body will first take the protein it needs for its muscles and other functions when keto-adapted.…

Also see: http://ketodietapp.com/Blog/post/2013/04/22/Not-Losing-Weight-on-Low-Carb-Ketogenic-Diet-Dont-Give-Up-and-Read-Further and http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/dr-charles-mobbs-diabetic-kidney-damage-can-actually-be-reversed-with-a-high-fat-low-carb-ketogenic-diet/10660 where the doctor states a ketogenic diet is…

Protein causes an insulin response almost equal to carbs. Insulin is release to get rid of sugar (glucose). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coUlGtAqmNg

Sure, what part do you need a resource on? This is mixed information, I didn't get it all from one place.

I was actually on a severe deficit and maintained my exact same strength! If I was eating regular calories, I would have gained a lot of strength. I only have around 155 lbs of lean body mass. (25% body fat atm) When I go into a regular ketogenic diet, the fun will begin! Indeed, someone older will probably not be working…

Nah, I don't know everything. But your diet clearly showed you were not in ketosis. And I did not read "a pamphlet" to get my knowledge on ketosis, I watched 20+ hours worth of videos from fitness and nutrition experts, as well as read a 500 page book on the scientific effects of ketosis, as well as countless articles over…

Ketosis occurs naturally when you go under 50 carbs. Mine appear to be higher because the fiber from the shake counts as a carb on MFP but not nutritionally. Edit: My current diet is not a conventional ketosis and has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I will be doing the regular ketogenic diet in about 3 weeks.

I'm talking about ketosis that can be maintained long-term, and these guys are talking about a temporary diet I am on for personal reasons which have nothing to do with this post. Edit: Ignored them now anyway.

I am obviously not going to do a vlcd very long as that is unhealthy. It's a temporary fix. In a couple of weeks, I will go into a 2500+ calorie PROPER ketogenic diet. Then I will be making gains.

Yes, however, this guy blamed his 50+ lbs loss of deadlift strength on a ketogenic diet, but the diet he described is NOT ketogenic, that's what my replies are about.

No, you obviously have more muscle building experience. I never doubted that. What I doubted is your knowledge of KETOSIS AND KETOGENIC DIETS. The diet you described is not even remotely ketogenic!!! Therefore blaming your losses on the ketogenic diet is ridiculous. I am far more experienced than you in ketogenic diets, as…

I don't care what the post was originally about. MY reply is meant to address YOUR statement which claimed you got weaker on the ketogenic diet. You never did the ketogenic diet in your life, thanks.

No, I'm weak because I've only been working out for 2 months, however, I do my research. Since my deadlift went from 198 to 286 in only 2 months, I say I'm doing pretty well for myself.

250-300g of protein? Unless you have 500 pounds of LEAN BODY WEIGHT, that is way too much protein. Excess protein gets converted into carbs by the liver, so if you were eating that much protein while doing your so-called ketogenic diet, then you were never in ketosis. Supposing you have 250 pounds of lean body weight, you…

If I can maintain my maximum strength on a lc diet, then you should definitely be able to do it on a full calorie diet. That is the point I am making.

I am not as strong as you, that is correct. However, a 1RM is a 1RM regardless of how strong or weak you are. My 1RM is 286 lbs. I go through a warm up set, and 3-4 acclimation sets, before I reach 286. I can only lift it once. A second rep is completely impossible for me at the moment, whereas I can do 264 for 2 reps, a…

Then you were doing something wrong. My deadlift stayed the same after 3 weeks of 500 cal daily intake ketosis. :-) Edit: That's after 3 weeks of inactivity.

" I’d note that that will generally only happen in the first year of training and things slow down after that." The article makes it sound like it's always like that. It is only like that in the beginning. Things slow down considerably after that as you get closer to your maximum genetic potential.

I'd also like to point out that initial so-called muscle mass losses on a ketogenic diet are actually usually just stored glycogen and water that are retained in the muscles. A larger person will tend to retain a lot more glycogen. Since glycogen is hydrophillic, it also absorbs water! (Up to twice to four times its weight…

Carbs get converted into glycogen and stored in the muscle and liver. Glycogen is hydrophillic, and can absorb up 2x or 4x its weight in water depending on what article you read lol. Water weight is indeed not a big deal, however, too much water weight is usually a sign that you're eating too many carbs. I eat a lot of…

The author of the book was an assistant professor at Yale for some time and has a college degree. This invariably links him to Yale. People who write articles on Mayo Clinic are the same. They may not even be employed there anymore or at all. Also, I never claimed anything was the CAUSE of cancer. Nobody knows the exact…

These are just cherry-picked areas of the book. If you have the actual book, you should read Chapter 20: Case Studies and Person Experiences in Using the Ketogenic Diet for Cancer Management. It goes over various experiences in using the ketogenic diet on humans, not mice. Of course they go over some research with mice in…

Lol, sorry, but no. Yale research > Mayo Clinic. And obviously, my lazy formulation of the sentence led you to think I do not know what cancer is. I obviously meant that abnormal cancerous cells feed off sugars only while healthy cells can feed on ketones and sugar. Cells = life form.

Might want to actually read the book before you claim that research done at Yale University is not science, lol.

Most of all cancers feed off sugar. Want cancer? Eat up. (Only a few rare varieties feed off of one or two amino acids, vast majority of cancers feed off sugar) I got this from a book written by an educated doctor: "Cancer as a Metabolic Disease: On the Origin, Management, and Prevention of Cancer" by Thomas N. Seyfried,…

Walking is good exercise. 30 minutes a day enough to reduce heart attack risks etc. according to most doctors. Exercise in general is not a good weight loss tool, because no matter how hard you exercise, a few pieces of cake will negate all your efforts. Health = Good, clean food + exercise to strengthen your body and…

same here, everyone's free to add me

I'd like to add that if all these helpful posts do not address your headache, it could be another reason: detox. If you go completely clean suddenly, you may get some kind of withdrawal symptoms as sugar acts similar to a drug to the brain. I had skin issues, for example, when I mixed in intermittent fasting. If you're…

Actually a body builder named Joel Marion was my source. I just found any old article with sources for your benefit, since I wasn't expecting you to go buy his book. The article I found for you quotes sources like the Harvard School of Medicine. That should be a reliable source the last time I checked?! Therefore, it…