SteveJWatson Member

All this aside, I have yet to meet anyone who does a manual job who can function effectively without a breakfast inside them.

What I mean is - they will almost certainly have been worked as part of my pullups/chinups, rows, bench, pushups etc.. They are relativeley small muscles and not that useful in a day-to-day sense, so I'm sure that the compound moves will do all I *need* to work them, any isolation work is really just about getting bigger…

I do my main upper body workouts, which comprise mostly of compound moves split into back/shoulders on one day and shoulders/chest on another. If I still have energy after 45 mins of that, I throw in some bicep/tricep work because deep down, I know they are really only 'vanity lifts' anyway.

This. Unless you are a beginner to any kind of excercise/obese. I walk around all day long and I still go in the gym and train.

I tend to have a glass of milk and a banana post-workout. :smile:

I never bother with it - seems pretty damn expensive for a by-product, although back in the day when you were allowed to do that kinda thing, pigs seemed to do pretty well on rolled barley soaked in whey. I just try to get my protein through diet.

INTP - and this might explain why I have never, ever gotten a job where I was made to take one of these tests........:bigsmile: Am now self-employed...

Are you losing inches? If you are feeling great and losing inches, I wouldn't worry about the scale. It is curious as to what is happening though.

I wonder if the supposed negative benefits of cardio counterbalance the positive things that arise from having a good level of cardiovascular fitness........

This is the problem with internet dogma. Everybodys body is different, therefore you will require differing levels of fluid intake. Its not "gross" to talk about your urine, because this is a pretty good indicator of whether you are hydrated or not. As a doctor once said to me; think "elderflower" and not "apple juice".

Yes, but only because of water that evaporates during boiling and that taken to grow and malt the grain... :laugh:

...and here I thought that milk was the original "protein drink"......

Yes - tea in and of itself shouldn't have any calories, its what you put in it that does. I have my tea sugarless but with milk so I log the milk. I drink about 5 pints of tea a day, but then I am allowed, because I'm British. :tongue:

Why would you pass on lamb and have steak? Lamb has loads of proteins and fats, which is just what low-carbers want isn't it?

And just to balance out the folks who say they lift better etc when they haven't eaten any fruit - I do so much better lifting and cardio when I have had a banana before training.

Aw, crap - I was on that for a while pre and post my ileostomy. I hated it, made me big in the face and proper angry. Maybe excercise will help the rage?

I know it isn't peer reviewed, but rather a 'digest' of some peer-reviewed studies, but I did read in the New Scientist that if you regularly consume tea, your body can and does adapt to the caffiene, so the effects are negligable. Coffee, apparently has more caffiene than most bodies can adapt to, so is still mildly…

I like dates, I like nuts, I like chocolate - ergo, these sound lush. I'm not paleo or clean or any other weird fad either...

I'm British too, and it seems to me that we swear more than the Yanks, however, they have a much higher rate of violent crime so, I know where I'd sooner be... Also, anyone who seriously says "f-bomb"? Plenty of reminders on this thread about why I hated school and had very little respect for most teachers - and I say this…

Wait? Paleo has no legumes at all? So that's no beans, peas, peanuts etc? How odd.....

I cannot even begin to fathom how some people are to lazy/supid/quasi-literate to read the OP, which, by all accounts was hardly a novel and yet can somehow find the time/energy to write about how they couldn't be bothered to read the OP. The mind boggles. And good luck in the race - you can choose from: "what doesn't kill…

That doesn't sound like enough food for any 22 year old man I have ever met ( apologies if you are a physical dwarf). Also; eating egg whites as opposed to the whole egg makes baby jesus cry.

You should eat excercise cals if you are using MFP as it is set up. HOWEVER: MFP vastly overestimates the calories burned for most people during excercise. You can get an accurate estimate for cardio by using a heart rate monitor, however, I dont have one of those so I cut my cardio exercise cals in half.

What on earth is a "protected group"? All of the above things are dividing society based on arbitary characteristics that have nothing to do with the person. This thread clearly proves that discrimination against children exists, so don't tell me ageism is only relevant with respect to the elderly. I'm not the most…

Exactly - your teeth would do the same thing as the juicer does if you weren't to juice.

Assuming it is one of those 'juicers' that just blends stuff really fineley, it would have the same calories as the whole item.

Well, no. Just like transsexuals or gays aren't their own ethnic group. They all are, however sections of society and discrimination against them is distatseful to say the least. I have a child - sometimes they act out, even the best-behaved child in the world has the occasional meltdown, its what children do. The planet…

I always thought the whole 'drinking age' thing was fairly arbitary anyway since it has always been 18, and in the village I grew up in, at least - it was common knowledge that the pub would sell you beer at 16, and the coppers turned a blind eye, mostly because it kept you out of the churchyard and mixing with adults, so…

This thread is great - you yanks are mental. I have some of the most highly trained dogs it is possible to have (working Border Collies), my neighbour is in his 60s and has been training gundogs all his life. I am pretty involved in the world of working dogs generally. I also have a 4 year old. I dont think the fact that…