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You get it off fast and you keep it off. I will return to a normal eating cycle as I have undergone no underlying metabolic damage. The deficit will be temporary.

Asked and answered earlier. You guys need to start paying attention rather than focusing on personal attacks.

I said the loss in LBM in obese people was insignificant. And could be largely offset through bodybuilding. Yeah, there is some loss in LBM, but not enough to forego aggressive caloric restriction. It seems just an excuse by people who want to minimize their caloric deficit so they can eat more.

Asked and answered above.

You should post less and read more. I hit the gym for 33 years, stayed in good shape, then got injured, packed on weight through not be able to go to gym, was able to return to gym, got back in shape. So see, it has a happy ending after all.....

I agree. You are hot....

Thats okay. You biology, processses, metabolism, and mine are probably different. You know your body and will do what works for you. I will do what works for me. I just dont get the immature venom when you present a different viewpoint that just might work for some........... ah the internet

I read some of this last nite. Good stuff. He also has issue with the whole "You'll burn muscle, the sky is falling BS"........

Sure. Several people asked for a study and went so far as to say they would change their mind if one existed. I'll never understand why people here need a study, when there is an an entire professional bodybuilding subculture for 50+ years with apple evidence to support this view. Here is the study and an abstract…

There just seem to be a significant amount of posts that start. "Wow, you aren't eating enough" "Wow, you are practically starving yourself" "Never go below 1200 calories" I also find very few people calling others out on starvation mode ideology. but I am new and maybe have read every thread to know. That is my…

I'll check it out. I don't follow any single approach. In fact, what I do is probably not embraced by most bodybuilders. I try to play around with stuff and see what works. So I keep tweaking things. IF, fasting, carb cycling, calorie cycling, HIT weight training, lower intensity cardio, calorie restriction. And its a…

Never claimed I have more knowledge than everyone. Just the bad scientists and arm chair nutrionalist who keep repeating bad science. I also consider myself to be a fattie at the moment. so it is self deprecating. Yes I have lifted weight for a long time and returned back to them after in an injury. I was trying to point…

Question whatever you want as will I. And I find in many instances the viewpoints presented are not backed by science, but by perceptions. And there seem to be lines in the sand that people want to draw.

The gym aint free! If I should pictures people would just say they are someone else or photoshopped anyway. Besides, I never claimed I was as lean as the 20 somethings here. I still have a way to go. And consider myself a fattie But you may misunderstand something. Its not about me comparing myself to anyone here. Its…

True. But I think i can recognize the difference between hunger and starvation. When I am hungry, I eat. But I have yet to feel starved. The term starvation is thrown around here very very loosely IMO. And it seems to be a way of convincing people here to eat eat eat. Which does not seem to work out all that well in many…

Most tales, mine, yours, and others are anecdotal. This site is not a double blind study. I see that. Do you?

Never claimed I have more knowledge than everyone. Just the bad scientists and arm chair nutrionalist who keep repeating bad science. I also consider myself to be a fattie at the moment. so it is self deprecating. Yes I have lifted weight for a long time and returned back to them after in an injury. I was trying to point…

Yes. I get your points. Some people like to sprint and some like to marathon. I just could not handle seeing the scale or my body composition moving slowly. You prefer the slow and steady approach. Neither is wrong. One works for you and the other works for me. The problem is the lack of acceptance or group think mentality…

But I seem to realize there are different relevant points of view that may run contrary to the majority opinion on MFP. And I dont feel the need to shutdown those opinions and pile on with useless memes that don't add much to a conversation. Something to consider........................

But I don't feel "starved" in the least. The definitions of starvation seem somewhat overexaggerated at times.....

Depends on how I feel. I try to do one a week. 36 hours is somewhat usual. I feel better, energy level is up, and just seem to get more done. I think (for me) it does have some impact on metabolism. It may also have a greater psycholgical impact, as I have less and less of a food fixation. That seems to be a real issue for…

And then the next week. And then the week after. Short term and long term goals are cool!

It was VERY surprising to me. Because it would seem to contradict much of the closely held views that you see in this forum. Which the haters are now out in force. Funny, the Body Builder was not surprised. He is not a big believer in metabolic damage or slowdown given his own experiences. He feels that the body can be put…

Dude. Did you link the wrong study? Here is the one you posted. Unless you mis linked it seems to contradict what you are saying: Weight loss without losing muscle mass in pre-obese and obese subjects induced by a high-soy-protein diet. CONCLUSIONS: Our data suggest that a high-soy-protein and low-fat diet can improve the…

At a hospital. They have a weight loss clinic there as well. I had to breathe into a machine for 15 minutes which then calculated a calorie/pound factor and RMR factor based on CO2(?). MedGem was the device.

No. Newbie with a different perspective is taking a different approach to weight loss which has upset the "eat more, not less" crowd. Drink our Kool aid or we get mad and post insults and immature memes and gifs cause we like to march in lock step with the conventional clap trap. And if you respond to our insults, we will…

Food is over rated..............

Didn't question your dedication. Its great you lost the weight. Be proud. I just really don't care about food all that much right now. I plan on having a treat here and there. But I am past the point of food obsession. Which seems to be another issue on this forum. People need to deal with that issue IMO............

Its a matter of BFI and LBM. Is it really that controversial concept that an obese person with a high BF% and little LBM will somehow go into an immediate catabolic state with an aggressive calorie reduction. I never thought so, but apparently on this forum it seem to be a no no. I am saying that obese people don't need to…