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Someone cited https://mises.org/ :drinker: Wish more people spent time on there. The Austrian School of ECON will be making a comeback someday.

IDK why? - obviously my horizons get broadened - it is how I adapt and change. And he says 'If the dichotomous logic of youth was something that could simply be talked away' - what is wrong with dichotomous logic? And how else does one reason with others to learn? And our universities do produce many well-rounded, mindful,…

:drinker: I still love them both. So entertaining and passion - even if it is wrong is still catchy :wink: I think Lewis was so sincere, and incredibly brilliant - didn't mean to smack him down so hard. I think Tolkien got frustrated because he influenced Lewis into becoming a believer and then Lewis decided to be the…

lol. I broke horses and would make them rideable years ago. There was a guy there that shared your joy of touching the electric fence. I thought I had met a truly unique person then -lmao. People keep me in a constant state of perspective.

:noway: wow. what an @$$h0le. Thanks for shedding so much light on all the topics we discussed here yourself. You remind me of CS Lewis - grand accusations, grand statements - but nothing refuting your grand claims.

Being sincere here- what do you mean? I can see the world through different world views. And 'patting myself on the back' - because I said I made a 'mind faq'? - because I did, but I'm not entirely sure I'm correct myself - like which is why I started this thread to begin with - feel the friction of ideas to sharpen and…

^But the Bible is not perfect? I just provided like a huge set of examples making that case? And God refers to himself as his - not it or her.

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are you just like trolling me? The Bible says it is perfect and 'God-breathed' - if you found God knowing the text was not accurate you are not a Christian. Christianity is based on the text - the text says it is perfect and literal. like da faq am I missing here?

^for the record - nor would I want to argue or take away your relationship with your 'God' - I just think it dulls critical thinking and prevents personality development. Now if you are content (and I used content not apathetic or lethargic) in your belief - so be it. When I was a Christian it could not answer my questions…

smh - but that is not Christianity then.

^but it's not accurate?

^I can't argue your experience. If you have a relationship with a 'God' who answered your request personally - so be it. I can't argue or disprove that. That however is not proof to me of a God. When I was an addict I know people who overcame the addiction due to 'the aid of a benevolent loving God' they will swear to me…

No - you have not answered my point. The TEXT says it is 100% accurate, God-Breathed, Perfect, God's 'love message' on how to find him. Christianity is based on this text. Real Christianity. - I have proved the text wrong. The text is wrong. Christianity is wrong. I'm not angry, I am angry at the lack of debate. - no…

I have an open-mind? I encourage diversity - and I am questioning even my own beliefs. What have you been reading? I was in the process of disproving something claiming itself as truth?

I don't know what you mean saying 'you don't understand the subject' - I have read the Bible cover to cover multiple times, I have read the Book of Enoch, the Apocrypha, corresponding literature, took many college classes on theology. I don't think you've read the Bible actually. A true Christian believes the text…

Appreciate your sincerity :flowerforyou: I see your point and in some aspects of the Bible I think there are great life lessons even I take to heart. -to me they are just stories though. In regards to Daniels observation - in a sense I think that could be a fair - but I have no idea I'm not in that environment.

^interesting and I know this- I wasn't referring to Catholics I was referring to Christians, Catholics pervert Christianity just like Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses- all the bat ****. My point in arguing was to those that actually believe the Bible, and if you can only believe parts - why believe in it at all? The…

well I certainly can't prove God doesn't exist - I don't even know that for sure myself. and I have not once said I am an expert on philosophy?! It is simply a pastime of mine? 'You "proved" the Bible is not literal. That is not the same as proving the religion itself is a farce or that God doesn't exist.' - the religion…

The Bible is full of parables - but it informs you it is a parable prior to giving the parable - not just blasting off stories like its fact. If all you are thinking is it is parables then you don't believe it anyway - its just parables.

I gave a ton of proof! see my previous post. The points I made were not my observations, it was from scientist and scholars tha investigated it and realized it. All you need to do to prove the Bible wrong is provide one bit of proof against it - and I did. I just am upset they could cherry pick the cannon as bad they did…

:noway: I understand the verse of course, my point is read what is in that verse! My observation is spot on.

The Catholics did take the Bible literally, as time has gone on of course they had to abandon some of their beliefs. I did not know Jews do not believe in heaven! - interesting. Regardless, my thinking is if you are going to cherry pick what you want to believe out of a religious belief as things fall apart your living in…

But how can you believe in it if it is proven to be a farce? It is like an adult explaining to a child how Santa couldn't make it to all the houses in time on a sled and smiling back and providing a quote back from the Christmas story. I mean? IDK - I don't think you understand what I said.

Da faq? did you not read what I pointed out above? ^^^ Christianity is a farce. I could provide even more evidence of it, but those points where all dead on and strong enough to make my case. The cannon itself - like the actual books that make up the bible are in debate with scholars - and the biggest of scholars are not…

smh. Dawkins was not comparing the actual tail to a brain.

:drinker: Good point. The Jews themselves don't take this stuff literally - it's all bleh. -this opinion I'm sure came to relevance due to them encouraging critical thinking lol. They also don't say a huge percentage of the world is going to hell either, or that if you don't convert to their belief you go to hell.…

^none of my points are fictional - look it up. If you mean the Bible purposefully made sections fictional to train - it makes the claim itself that it does not - it says itself that it is plenary verbal inspiration. - if you don't know what plenary verbal inspiration is then go look it up.

Yeah - it's great he willfully confounds (willfully confuse) people - Obviously the same God that deemed mankind mortal because Adam and Eve ate a fruit of knowledge. Christianity seriously is anti-critical thinking - I mean you as a christian are fighting against someone using critical thinking.

^addressed how? The guy that made the point that peacocks are dumb? - its not related at all to the point.