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That's actually a good question, since there are many people out there that want us to believe we would spend all day picking small seeds of wild grains to make porridge...

Correct, yet if you have malabsorption issues (with FODMAPs for instance) undigested carbs can enter the large intestine and be fermented there by bacteria, and the outcome is... gas.

You're welcome. Anyway I must say I am not enthusiast about the methodology of the change. We don't need to replace one dogma with another. Governments should simply take a step back on dietary guidelines.

I think she may be referring to this announcement: http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1141989 that followed this Senate's report: https://sencanada.ca/content/sen/committee/421/SOCI/Reports/2016-02-25_Revised_report_Obesity_in_Canada_e.pdf I'm not sure what the outcome will be, but definitely things are moving.

asparagus, bok choy, broccoli, kale, mushrooms, onions, Brussels sprouts, and radishes.

This is the actual study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5063171/ I just jumped to the conflict of interest statement: "Conflict of Interest Statement No conflict of interest was declared. Dr. Wansink is a member of McDonald's Global Advisory Council,..." So, no, I'm not going to waste my time reading it.

There may be many reasons. Perhaps it's the gym subculture, and/or or a sort of anti-intellectualism. Surely it shows a lack of interpersonal skills. Being able to remain civil while expressing disagreement requires a certain level of education.

Well, Campbell might be a bit biased, isn't it? This makes more sense: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4975865/

Variety is key. For side salads, I usually buy mixed salad bags (which may contain baby spinach). Cooked spinach is a staple in my diet, yet I try not to exaggerate, since it is high in oxalate, and I don't want to find out I am prone to kidney stones...

Not necessarily. I don't log often, but here is a day from last December, 1900 total calories, without breakfast and 2079 g (almost 26 portions) of F&V: December 3, 2016 FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber Lunch Oil - Olive, 2 tbsp(s) 239 0g 27g 0g 0mg 1mg 0g 0g Lettuce, green leaf, raw, 160…

I think most people may need to add some fat to their veggies, to make them palatable, so increasing F&V may involve to decrease something else in order to keep calories constant.

Not necessarily. I don't log often, but I have a day from last December with no breakfast, 1900 calories, and 2079 g of F&V (almost 26 portions):

Nutritionally, there is no doubt that would be better to aim for a wide variety of fruit and vegetables, but I don't think is critical to reach such variety every single day. If today I eat, say, 500g of spinach and 300g of pears, tomorrow 500g of broccoli and 300g of apples, the day after 500g of cauliflower and 300g of…

This is the study: https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/doi/10.1093/ije/dyw319/3039477/Fruit-and-vegetable-intake-and-the-risk-of

as someone already put it, eating (whole) food, not too much, mostly plants.

Paleo and Zone are totally compatible, you just need to get used to the "block" system. An app may help you with that.

Fact is there are two different articles by Guyenet, Taubes is addressing the first, published on the same website. It was me to be misleading, but funny that nobody noticed :smile:

Taubes' response: https://www.cato-unbound.org/2017/01/30/gary-taubes/case-against-sugar-isnt-so-easily-dismissed

"Strudel"? That stuff? It's insulting

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4011484/table/T1/?report=objectonly

As a matter of fact, most people that argue on here don't have adequate knowledge. They are just affected by the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Official dietary guidelines generally advise to limit just red and processed meat (pork is also considered "red") and/or to eat mostly lean meat, to limit saturated fat intake.

Her (real?) success story is still visible here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/gina-really-healed-obesity-metabolic-syndrome

Imagine to be, say, a lawyer who charges 200$ per hour.

I also advocate the 80/20 rule. Nonetheless, I think it is a good idea to go cold turkey for a while, and then reintroduce, so you can better assess your tolerance levels to non-paleo foods.

Well, they are also right, in most cases. I don't find annoying, per se, this way of thinking. What is annoying is the evangelism...

Also healthy food can be delicious, if you can cook.

I think you are referring to this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27356203 (K.Hall is not among the authors)

As a small man, I must say I am in trouble as well here in Europe. I'm basically a 44, size which most of the time I simply can't find (and when I find it it is often too big anyway). Solution? "Juvenile" shops, even if I'm 48 :smiley:

I confess I haven't read the whole30 book, so I can't tell why this happens (I suspect that people use the plan improperly, just to speed up weight loss), but in general I don't think it is a bad idea to see paleo as an elimination diet, aimed to reintroduce foods, to see how they affect you (at least in the short term).