tgzerozone

I just log it under Cardio, easier. I know I burn about 500 cals on my gym sessions so I just log 500 cals under cardio.

ohhh, one more thing, why are you trying to loose weight, your current weight sounds perfectly healthy. Edit: Sorry, ran the numbers, didn't take your height into account. Stick with that value and eat back exercise cals as the other poster suggested. Don't go lower than that.

Depends on what you are trying to achieve? If you are trying to loose, I wouldn't go under that.

On a non-related note. Can anyone see my diary. I opened it but a mate complains he can't see it.

Will do.

As said I don't know why you would hold off nutrition if you can give your body immediate nutrition and replace what was lost. Doesn't make logical sense to me. Also don't understand how your body will make optimum use of your whey if it has no fuel to take it where it's needed.

On that note, just had my first meal of the day before working out in 2 hours. Man was that nice. 800 calories of goodness!

Lots I would say. :)

So let's say you have the following variables. You eat a 500 calorie meal before workout containing 30P/50C/20F So on that, you have 62.5 grams of carbs (The most efficient fuel for your body to burn) You gym for 1.5 hours, burning approximately 500 calories of which 60% is probably fat and 40 % is carbs. 40 percent of 500…

Good reading, thanks. Regarding the body being able to burn fat if no other fuels are available. There tends to be some belief that the body refuses to burn fat when insulin levels are high.

I would imagine you would pretty much need the glycocen after your workout as this is when the repair process starts. Low glycogen causes less release of ATP. So I am thinking why not give your body immediate quick releasing fuel as soon as you are finished training. Why miss this opportunity to start the repair process…

This.

On protein getting insulin high enough: It doesn't restore glygocen as glucose and without glycogen restored, muscle and strength gains won't be optimal. On insulin causing optimal nutrient absorption: I thought this was common medical knowledge. Maybe it's not.

That would bring us back to the point whether you agree that a spike in insulin stimulates the brain to optimally absorb nutrients. If above is true, then providing the body with nutrients during an insulin spike would have said nutrients optimally absorbed.

Fuels the repair process in your muscles. As you depleted your glycogen, you need to replace it so that muscle repair can commence.

Glucose is perfect for restoring glycogen levels in your muscles.

Well, if you are starting the bulk now, I suggest you try my method. lol.

That is why you tend to measure in different areas and then average it out.

What does your gains look like using your method?

Caliper tests from the same person using the same caliper.

You seem to misread my posts. I do not stay lite. I picked up 17 lbs in 2 months. I started training and eating the right calories and picked up. I weight 162 pounds now. I eat 3500 to 4500 calories a day.

It boils down to diet and genetics in the end. I'll give you the figures and you can punch them in. Start weight: 145 lbs (With a fat percentage of 14%) After 8-9 weeks weight: 162.8 lbs (with a fat percentage of 16%)

I weighed 145 pounds when I started. 123 was lean weight.

I consume my workout stacks on top of my daily calorie needs. meaning on workout days I would consume 4500 cals, non workout days 3500. It's not replacing any real food.

I am yes, as your body is pretty depleted from nutrients at that point. Getting it into a state for optimal nutrient absorption when it's most needed seems like a good idea to me. There seems to be people who proves scientifically that it does work, and others that prove that it doesn't work. Guess we'll never know.

I am fully aware yes. :)

So you deny the fact that loads of glucose spikes insulin levels and that spiked insulin levels cause you to be in a perfect state for taking in nutrients?

Yup, 150 grams of it. Gives you a buzz.

Indeed, the numbers aren't 100%. For one thing though, my bones aren't getting bigger so I would say it is safe to leave them out of the equation. I then went and got rid of another 800 grams per week for all the other variables. So the numbers are pretty conservative at that.

Not at all, it fits in with the big picture.