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I think you misunderstand the straw man argument then, because I didn't make one... To do this I would need to make an argument that was practically the same one, and refute the argument, without refuting the original position. I did neither of these things.

I was responding to someone who stated they laughed at the term paleo because of what they believe it stood for, and I pointed out merits of the paleo diet that make sense to me.

That is a good point

I don't understand your perspective on what I stated. I am not refuting the paleo diet, I am just pointing out it's merits. Just because those similarities exist does not make this a straw man argument, I refuted neither one. In order for it to be a straw man argument I would need to refute the paleo diet, but then create…

Do you think that most of the food produced and boxed today with the chemicals used, tend to be better than fresh vegetables or grass fed beef? Because I don't think they are, and have had far more success eliminating them than not.

I think that the paleo ideal is a good place to start from, it opens up a lot of very interesting and very accurate information. Plus I think the idea of paleo has evolved quite a bit from what most people make it out to be. It is not simply eating like our ancestors any more

I don't get it, how is this ironic?

I have tried dozens of things and was stuck at a plateau about 30 lbs more than I wanted. I finaly came to a solution and found as usual others have beaten me to it. Look up a fat fast, it blew my plateau out of the water.

As cynical and sarcastic as some people may be, there is merit to this topic. There is alot of bad info out there, and it warrents a good discussion.

This is a problem for people. Ketosis is one thing but the reason for ketoacidosis is cause by a lack of proper fat in the diet, not by a lack of carbs. It is 100% sustainable if done correctly, and 100% unsustanable if not.

Check the references here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction And before you scoff at wikipedia before even looking, dont. Read it, follow the references, then discuss.

That is a good point, but I would still think because of how they tested for body fat % that it should be irelivant. Even though it is not explisitly tested for in this study, I dont think it would impact the results. I have never been too concerned with sodium intake, but let me read a few other things over with that in…

That does make alot of sense in theory, but glucogenisis turns protein to glucose when not enough fuel is around. this spikes insulin, blocks leptin, and stimulates lipoprotein lipase This is why the study shows that the most ammount of fat loss, and the least ammount of lean mass lost, was on the high fat diet.

That was done as a control to make sure varying ammounts of salt was not the reason... This was just the first set of tests... you should read the whole thing.

Don't fold under the preasure of haters. It is an amazing lifestyle with tons to back it up. I have been studying nutrition for years and come from a chemistry/physics background. I have acrued and read thousands of interesting studies. Feel free to friend me if you wish to ask anything specific on it.

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/16623456/762005489/name/28131415-Kekwick-Pawan-1956-Lancet.pdf

I disagree, I have posted this before, but this says otherwise. [the researchers in a 1956 study] put obese subjects on one of four different diets. The diets all had the same calorie count—1,000 calories per day—but the composition of those calories varied: 1,000 calories of a mixed or balanced diet, 1,000 calories with…

I agree, this makes more sense than the way I put it.

You are right, they should increase fat consumption instead.

I agree, too much protien is bad for this reason. But I completely disagree with the statement "Half of the protein you eat gets converted to glucose" My blood sugar monitor tells me when I consume low glycemic and upwards of 150-200 grams of protein, my fasting glucose is around 100-110. When I lower my protein intake to…

I can't say that I totaly disagree with this. But I feel there is something to be said about how people's nutritional profile and health are greatly offput by the avoidence of fat, and overconsumption of carbs. I dont think carbs are bad, I just think the average person consumes too many and the in the wrong form.

In my study I replaced high glycemic foods with low glycemic foods. Kept protein around 1/2 gram per lb of body weight and fat around %50 of my calories. After trying this for a month I found I could consistantly consume around the same number of calories every day without trying to. When I consumed foods that spiked my…

I believe this is due to sugar being dirt cheap and everywhere.

You are correct, in that this is a study involving rats. But it deserves looking deeper into for humans. However one can not deny the affect has a strong chance of being simaler. When I consume things that spike my insulin I feel hungary more often. That was my N=1 experiment a while back. Studies that show how insulin…

Damn shame there are people who are more interested in sarcasm and derailing a topic than constructive discussion.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sugar-Found-More-Addictive-Than-Cocaine-61862.shtml

Actually http://ezinearticles.com/?Wellness-Coaching---Your-Brain-Was-Designed-for-Ketones&id=6490960

Some may think this is extreme, but cocain addicts use the same ideal as this. I find sugar, grains, and the like that pump your body full of glucose cause an addiction affect in the brain. It is literaly the same reaction. There are even studies to prove this.

Same for me. Sometimes you cant jump right into it. Try easing into it a little at a time. Your body needs to build the enzymes to burn the fat.

I keep it around 50 grams or less