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Hey mods, I need your group join dates (and I have a bit of a rant)
Dragonwolf
Posts: 5,600 Member
The rant, for non-mods:
OMG, I hate MFP sometimes... There are nearly ten thousand people in this group, right? There is no search function for the members! To add to that, they're sorted by join month/year. :wtf: But wait, it gets even better! It only shows about 25 people per page. Oh, and this group goes back to 2011. *facepalm*
So, mods! I need a month/year estimate for when you joined this group. Even if it's just within a couple of months of your actual join date, that'd at least narrow down the search to "haystack" from "whole f**ing farmland."
Thanks!
OMG, I hate MFP sometimes... There are nearly ten thousand people in this group, right? There is no search function for the members! To add to that, they're sorted by join month/year. :wtf: But wait, it gets even better! It only shows about 25 people per page. Oh, and this group goes back to 2011. *facepalm*
So, mods! I need a month/year estimate for when you joined this group. Even if it's just within a couple of months of your actual join date, that'd at least narrow down the search to "haystack" from "whole f**ing farmland."
Thanks!
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March 2014 is when my diary starts BUT I think I was registered for MFP for a while before that (not sure).Dragonwolf wrote: »The rant, for non-mods:
OMG, I hate MFP sometimes... There are nearly ten thousand people in this group, right? There is no search function for the members! To add to that, they're sorted by join month/year. :wtf: But wait, it gets even better! It only shows about 25 people per page. Oh, and this group goes back to 2011. *facepalm*
So, mods! I need a month/year estimate for when you joined this group. Even if it's just within a couple of months of your actual join date, that'd at least narrow down the search to "haystack" from "whole f**ing farmland."
Thanks!
For the Group.....a TOTAL GUESS would be April/May 2014
Sorry DW, wish I could be even a little bit more accurate but despite resent research showing definitively that brain cells ARE reborn - mine didn't get the memo yet<g>.
Is whatever you need (unless it's just the date) anything that might show on our end (although it doesn't look like there's much there either).?
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The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!0
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SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
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I went and found myself for you. I'm on page 220, Join date of December 2013. December 6, 2013 11:17AM to be exact. Which was a Friday, when I probably was working. But, based on my recall, it was my lunch bread last year.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p220?filter=members
Good thing I went looking for it myself. I just remembered that I started keto on October 16, 2013. It was a while before I found this group. I hadn't used groups before, but got so frustrated dealing with the posts in the main forums that I went looking for friendlier grounds.0 -
I have also thrown together a quick and dirty script to scrape the information from the various pages and find the mods. If it works, I'll have everyone's join date and page link for you very shortly.
Done:
deansdad101 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p284?filter=members
baconslave is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p297?filter=members
frob23 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p220?filter=members
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September 15 of this year, though I lurked in August before I decided to join.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p297?filter=members
Thanks, MFP. Those are moments of my life wasted that I'll never get back. LOL!0 -
I have also thrown together a quick and dirty script to scrape the information from the various pages and find the mods. If it works, I'll have everyone's join date and page link for you very shortly.
Done:
deansdad101 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p284?filter=members
baconslave is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p297?filter=members
frob23 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p220?filter=members
That is awesome! Thanks man. You've got leader now, too, since I found you.0 -
Not sure. It shows September 2012 for all the members, and the other Mod (who started the group) and 2013 for me.deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
ETA: I see this one shows November 2011 for everyone? Is that group start date?0 -
See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Edit: It just occurred to me that this group is now almost twice as big as when I joined. We went through quite the growth spurt. There's 394 pages of members now, and I joined when there was 220.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
*facepalm* ROFL. Thankfully, it's not that bad, though maybe if it did that, it'd be sorted by username? (That'd make too much sense, so I bet not...)deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
I'm not sure what went on with her group, but ours shows all different dates, so I doubt it's the forum switch thing (or if it is, it doesn't happen consistently). It would be interesting to see what join date you get when joining her group, though.
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Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
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SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
Not sure. It shows September 2012 for all the members, and the other Mod (who started the group) and 2013 for me.deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
ETA: I see this one shows November 2011 for everyone? Is that group start date?
"Created date" in the sidebar shows as "Nov 2011" so it looks like it.
I just created a new group for test purposes (NOT to be in "competition" with LCD) so if I remember I'll add a member tomorrow and see what shows up.
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Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.0
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DW/SS;Dragonwolf wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
*facepalm* ROFL. Thankfully, it's not that bad, though maybe if it did that, it'd be sorted by username? (That'd make too much sense, so I bet not...)deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
I'm not sure what went on with her group, but ours shows all different dates, so I doubt it's the forum switch thing (or if it is, it doesn't happen consistently). It would be interesting to see what join date you get when joining her group, though.
Link?
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deansdad101 wrote: »
DW/SS;Dragonwolf wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
*facepalm* ROFL. Thankfully, it's not that bad, though maybe if it did that, it'd be sorted by username? (That'd make too much sense, so I bet not...)deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
I'm not sure what went on with her group, but ours shows all different dates, so I doubt it's the forum switch thing (or if it is, it doesn't happen consistently). It would be interesting to see what join date you get when joining her group, though.
Link?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/8279-south-beach-way-of-life0 -
I have also thrown together a quick and dirty script to scrape the information from the various pages and find the mods. If it works, I'll have everyone's join date and page link for you very shortly.
Done:
deansdad101 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p284?filter=members
baconslave is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p297?filter=members
frob23 is on page http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group/p220?filter=members
Ah BAH! If I had waited a little while, frob would have done the work for me. I apparently entirely did that for no reason. Waaaahhhh! Oh well. That's life for you.0 -
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »deansdad101 wrote: »
DW/SS;Dragonwolf wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
*facepalm* ROFL. Thankfully, it's not that bad, though maybe if it did that, it'd be sorted by username? (That'd make too much sense, so I bet not...)deansdad101 wrote: »
SS;Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »The group I moderate shows everyone with the same join date, which is a hoot. Good luck!
Is it the "reset" date for all the Forums/Groups?
If I join today would it show the "same" join date as all the others or today?
Shoot me a link if you would like me to try.
I'm not sure what went on with her group, but ours shows all different dates, so I doubt it's the forum switch thing (or if it is, it doesn't happen consistently). It would be interesting to see what join date you get when joining her group, though.
Link?
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/8279-south-beach-way-of-life
Done.
As of right now it shows 9:43pm (eastern) today, on my end in the member list.
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Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
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Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
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baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
Here are your options for something to do:
1. Clear out the stickies From what I can tell, the only way is to remove the posts entirely. Given that they're so old, I don't see a problem with this, but we should go through them and keep a hold of things that are still useful. Copy the useful stuff out and save it somewhere, and we'll put it in our new stuff when we get there.
2. Start writing the text for the new stickies (namely, the Welcome sticky and intros into other sections).
3. Compile and organize things for the list-style stuff. Links to more detailed articles on specific topics, the most common questions for the FAQ, research papers, etc.
Feel free to do these in their own threads (or we can create a closed group to handle this, if we don't want to pollute the main threads here?). We'll put up a polished one for the finished sticky entries.0 -
We can get rid of them without deleting. Uncheck announce at the bottom of the original post.0
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I just checked on my phone. You need to go and edit the original post (no need to actually change anything) and there is a checkbox at the bottom called "announce". Uncheck it.
I just got rid of the "moderators needed" thread as a test (figured it was safest) that way. It still exists, but it is no longer pinned to the top.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
Here are your options for something to do:
1. Clear out the stickies From what I can tell, the only way is to remove the posts entirely. Given that they're so old, I don't see a problem with this, but we should go through them and keep a hold of things that are still useful. Copy the useful stuff out and save it somewhere, and we'll put it in our new stuff when we get there.
2. Start writing the text for the new stickies (namely, the Welcome sticky and intros into other sections).
3. Compile and organize things for the list-style stuff. Links to more detailed articles on specific topics, the most common questions for the FAQ, research papers, etc.
Feel free to do these in their own threads (or we can create a closed group to handle this, if we don't want to pollute the main threads here?). We'll put up a polished one for the finished sticky entries.
I just nixed the old "Welcome" which just had a million introductions and the Food Porn...er...I mean Food Pics. And by nix I mean I unannounced them. Cursory glances told me they weren't worth keeping up and didn't appear to have any helpful links or some such to glean and reuse.
The closed group might not be a bad idea to avoid flooding this one with our shop talk. But I defer to the majority.0 -
All;baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
Here are your options for something to do:
1. Clear out the stickies From what I can tell, the only way is to remove the posts entirely. Given that they're so old, I don't see a problem with this, but we should go through them and keep a hold of things that are still useful. Copy the useful stuff out and save it somewhere, and we'll put it in our new stuff when we get there.
2. Start writing the text for the new stickies (namely, the Welcome sticky and intros into other sections).
3. Compile and organize things for the list-style stuff. Links to more detailed articles on specific topics, the most common questions for the FAQ, research papers, etc.
Feel free to do these in their own threads (or we can create a closed group to handle this, if we don't want to pollute the main threads here?). We'll put up a polished one for the finished sticky entries.
I just nixed the old "Welcome" which just had a million introductions and the Food Porn...er...I mean Food Pics. <snipped>
The closed group might not be a bad idea to avoid flooding this one with our shop talk. But I defer to the majority.
I must have missed the "closed group" discussion but if I'm understanding it correctly I'm of mixed mind.
One side of me says keep it here and "open" for all to see and to "chime in" if they feel the need to do so.
I'm a big believer in "too close to the forest to see the trees" and feel we would benefit by "fresh eyes".
OTOH, I do "git" the "...flooding this one..." point.
That however can probably be avoided simply by those not interested in the "shop talk" avoiding that thread. (Maybe a dedicated "shop talk" thread?).
OR, just set up a brandy new "group" LCD Mod Shop Talk and close it to "all" or by invite only (assuming that can be done, I haven't checked).
Just my random musings on the subject and fine with whatever the consensus (man do I "hate" that word<g>) is.
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deansdad101 wrote: »
All;baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
Here are your options for something to do:
1. Clear out the stickies From what I can tell, the only way is to remove the posts entirely. Given that they're so old, I don't see a problem with this, but we should go through them and keep a hold of things that are still useful. Copy the useful stuff out and save it somewhere, and we'll put it in our new stuff when we get there.
2. Start writing the text for the new stickies (namely, the Welcome sticky and intros into other sections).
3. Compile and organize things for the list-style stuff. Links to more detailed articles on specific topics, the most common questions for the FAQ, research papers, etc.
Feel free to do these in their own threads (or we can create a closed group to handle this, if we don't want to pollute the main threads here?). We'll put up a polished one for the finished sticky entries.
I just nixed the old "Welcome" which just had a million introductions and the Food Porn...er...I mean Food Pics. <snipped>
The closed group might not be a bad idea to avoid flooding this one with our shop talk. But I defer to the majority.
I must have missed the "closed group" discussion but if I'm understanding it correctly I'm of mixed mind.
One side of me says keep it here and "open" for all to see and to "chime in" if they feel the need to do so.
I'm a big believer in "too close to the forest to see the trees" and feel we would benefit by "fresh eyes".
OTOH, I do "git" the "...flooding this one..." point.
That however can probably be avoided simply by those not interested in the "shop talk" avoiding that thread. (Maybe a dedicated "shop talk" thread?).
OR, just set up a brandy new "group" LCD Mod Shop Talk and close it to "all" or by invite only (assuming that can be done, I haven't checked).
Just my random musings on the subject and fine with whatever the consensus (man do I "hate" that word<g>) is.
Can't disagree with any of that.
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All;baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »baconslave wrote: »Dragonwolf wrote: »Baconslave was the first person on page 297. When I was moved out of the general member list to the mod/leader list (because my status changed), it must have shifted everyone back one spot. I suspect the same thing would happen if someone left the group, everyone else would move back a little. Those who were first on a page would become last on the previous page. The page links given were for the state of the member list when I ran the script. If I ran it again now, it would show her on 296.
DD ended up something like two pages back and in the middle. XD
But! It helped narrow things down infinitely farther and made life so much easier to get everyone promoted, so thank you, very much!deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob;See, and my wife says my being a nerd has no benefits. LOL
Ask her to check with her resident "nerd" <BG>,
WHY the record page # changes????
Nice find but it really shouldn't be this difficult (not your fault of course).
Bacons record shows for me on page 296 not 297.
I'm not doubting that it's different only asking WHY/HOW???
Someplace, buried in what we can't see there has to be a record number the DB is referencing.
It'll be interesting to see if these page numbers change over time as are new records are added.
Anyway, problem solved for now and nice work sherlock (nerdlock?)<s>.
It's generally actually coded as a relative thing. Each page basically says "get me (number of items per page) items, starting at (page number * number of items per page)." So if there are 25 items per page, and we want to get the ones for page 200, it would be "get me 25 items, starting from item 5000 (200*25)." So, if someone leaves (or gets pulled from that list, such as leader promotion) and was before record 5000, or joins and is placed before record 5000 (since it's sorted by join date, this won't happen on the MFP group member list, but can happen if it's sorted alphabetically), between the first and second times to ask for that information, then the selection of 25 that you get will be slightly different.
Anywho, everyone's promoted now.
I await my orders, fearless leader.
Here are your options for something to do:
1. Clear out the stickies From what I can tell, the only way is to remove the posts entirely. Given that they're so old, I don't see a problem with this, but we should go through them and keep a hold of things that are still useful. Copy the useful stuff out and save it somewhere, and we'll put it in our new stuff when we get there.
2. Start writing the text for the new stickies (namely, the Welcome sticky and intros into other sections).
3. Compile and organize things for the list-style stuff. Links to more detailed articles on specific topics, the most common questions for the FAQ, research papers, etc.
Feel free to do these in their own threads (or we can create a closed group to handle this, if we don't want to pollute the main threads here?). We'll put up a polished one for the finished sticky entries.
I just nixed the old "Welcome" which just had a million introductions and the Food Porn...er...I mean Food Pics. <snipped>
The closed group might not be a bad idea to avoid flooding this one with our shop talk. But I defer to the majority.
I must have missed the "closed group" discussion but if I'm understanding it correctly I'm of mixed mind.
One side of me says keep it here and "open" for all to see and to "chime in" if they feel the need to do so.
I'm a big believer in "too close to the forest to see the trees" and feel we would benefit by "fresh eyes".
OTOH, I do "git" the "...flooding this one..." point.
That however can probably be avoided simply by those not interested in the "shop talk" avoiding that thread. (Maybe a dedicated "shop talk" thread?).
OR, just set up a brandy new "group" LCD Mod Shop Talk and close it to "all" or by invite only (assuming that can be done, I haven't checked).
Just my random musings on the subject and fine with whatever the consensus (man do I "hate" that word<g>) is.
That's what I had in mind with the "create a closed/private group." It wouldn't have to be closed to everyone -- they're welcome to request an invite -- but it doesn't seem like something that people would be interested in usually, and we don't really need to be littering the main group with this stuff.
What we can do, is in one of the stickies (the Welcome one, perhaps? Seems a fitting place), put a note about the Shop Talk group and say something like "if you're interested in watching the goings on of the mods, send one of us a PM for an invite." That way, the option is visible to all members, and we don't have to worry about random people or spambots finding it.I just checked on my phone. You need to go and edit the original post (no need to actually change anything) and there is a checkbox at the bottom called "announce". Uncheck it.
I just got rid of the "moderators needed" thread as a test (figured it was safest) that way. It still exists, but it is no longer pinned to the top.
I wish MFP had "like" buttons for the forums. I hadn't had a chance to test it with someone else's post and with an old one to see if that would work (it seems there are a couple different paths to dealing with an announcement, which makes it a tad confusing). I do like the Edit -> Uncheck "Announce" route the best.0 -
I'm fine with a semi-private group for discussing moderation issues or doing it here. It probably would clutter things up here.
Personally, there's one thread I would like to unpin, but I won't do it unless everyone thinks so. I think http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/759713/ketosis-ketoacidosis-extra-info-to-share is pretty much anti-keto-scaremongering. I haven't found any support outside of the anecdote(s) in that thread that super-low carbs (<10g a day) will cause spontaneous ketoacidosis in people... potentially otherwise healthy people with no history of diabetes.
Without any other evidence backing those claims up, and no real medical specifics in that thread, I can't even see the benefit of retaining the link to that thread in the upcoming FAQs. I'm not saying to delete it. Someone searching for ketoacidosis on here should have the opportunity to discover it and make their own judgements. I just hate seeing it given a place of prominence when it is basically an unsupported "you need some carbs to live" thread.0 -
Frob/All;I'm fine with a semi-private group for discussing moderation issues or doing it here. It probably would clutter things up here.
Personally, there's one thread I would like to unpin, but I won't do it unless everyone thinks so. I think http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/759713/ketosis-ketoacidosis-extra-info-to-share is pretty much anti-keto-scaremongering. I haven't found any support outside of the anecdote(s) in that thread that super-low carbs (<10g a day) will cause spontaneous ketoacidosis in people... potentially otherwise healthy people with no history of diabetes.
Without any other evidence backing those claims up, and no real medical specifics in that thread, I can't even see the benefit of retaining the link to that thread in the upcoming FAQs. I'm not saying to delete it. Someone searching for ketoacidosis on here should have the opportunity to discover it and make their own judgements. I just hate seeing it given a place of prominence when it is basically an unsupported "you need some carbs to live" thread.
Absolutely agree with sending that to the scrap heap (although I still believe they ALL should go).
And an "oops" I just stumbled across (although you guys probably are aware of it) - be careful which "create" button you use when posting a new thread.
I just used the "wrong" one (under the announcements) and it went there instead of in the list of current threads.
Looks like I was able to make it go away but if not, feel free to hit the "disappear" button.
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DD, I have done that SO many times on the other group I run. It's how I figured out how to unpin things in the first place. The button for creating an announcement is just placed in a more direct location than for creating a normal post.0
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I'm fine with a semi-private group for discussing moderation issues or doing it here. It probably would clutter things up here.
Personally, there's one thread I would like to unpin, but I won't do it unless everyone thinks so. I think http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/759713/ketosis-ketoacidosis-extra-info-to-share is pretty much anti-keto-scaremongering. I haven't found any support outside of the anecdote(s) in that thread that super-low carbs (<10g a day) will cause spontaneous ketoacidosis in people... potentially otherwise healthy people with no history of diabetes.
Without any other evidence backing those claims up, and no real medical specifics in that thread, I can't even see the benefit of retaining the link to that thread in the upcoming FAQs. I'm not saying to delete it. Someone searching for ketoacidosis on here should have the opportunity to discover it and make their own judgements. I just hate seeing it given a place of prominence when it is basically an unsupported "you need some carbs to live" thread.
Agreed. I think having information on NKA vs DKA (including the circumstances under which a person actually risks going into DKA) is important to include in the stickies, but that thread isn't it. I'm surprised it made sticky status to begin with (seriously, the woman was doing very low calorie and very high protein, and the poster blames it on the reduced carbs? WTF?).deansdad101 wrote: »
Frob/All;I'm fine with a semi-private group for discussing moderation issues or doing it here. It probably would clutter things up here.
Personally, there's one thread I would like to unpin, but I won't do it unless everyone thinks so. I think http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/759713/ketosis-ketoacidosis-extra-info-to-share is pretty much anti-keto-scaremongering. I haven't found any support outside of the anecdote(s) in that thread that super-low carbs (<10g a day) will cause spontaneous ketoacidosis in people... potentially otherwise healthy people with no history of diabetes.
Without any other evidence backing those claims up, and no real medical specifics in that thread, I can't even see the benefit of retaining the link to that thread in the upcoming FAQs. I'm not saying to delete it. Someone searching for ketoacidosis on here should have the opportunity to discover it and make their own judgements. I just hate seeing it given a place of prominence when it is basically an unsupported "you need some carbs to live" thread.
Absolutely agree with sending that to the scrap heap (although I still believe they ALL should go).
And an "oops" I just stumbled across (although you guys probably are aware of it) - be careful which "create" button you use when posting a new thread.
I just used the "wrong" one (under the announcements) and it went there instead of in the list of current threads.
Looks like I was able to make it go away but if not, feel free to hit the "disappear" button.
Haha, I know, right? It's like the GIANT, GREEN "leave group" buttons. WTF were they thinking?0
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