Hypothyroid and LC
hotsungirl
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Perhaps I shouldn't have started reading online about medical challenges for people with hypothyroid and Hashimotos on low carb diets. They all were pro LC sites, but strong about concerns for those with thyroid issues. Anyone else on here hypothyroid or Hashimotos, please share or add me. I would be interested to hear how you have found LC. I'm only on day five. So far, I feel fine, although I don't want to go back to how I felt when my T3 was really messing me up. (plus I like the fact I still have good hair and my eyebrows grew back ;-)
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Hot;hotsungirl wrote: »Perhaps I shouldn't have started reading online about medical challenges for people with hypothyroid and Hashimotos on low carb diets. They all were pro LC sites, but strong about concerns for those with thyroid issues. Anyone else on here hypothyroid or Hashimotos, please share or add me. I would be interested to hear how you have found LC. I'm only on day five. So far, I feel fine, although I don't want to go back to how I felt when my T3 was really messing me up. (plus I like the fact I still have good hair and my eyebrows grew back ;-)
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Not me personally, but my sweetie has had hashi's all of her adult life as well as vitiligo and the "dry eye" thing (can't remember the name, solgrins or something like that) - all autoimmunes.
Almost like clockwork, prior to LCHF (started 3/14, fully NK/FA about 3-4 months now), she gained weight on the meds as predicted and had her dose increased every year or two.
Since NK/FA she's had dose CUT each of her last three visits, is back to her HS weight, never felt better or had more energy and looks like a million bucks!
All three AD's are still there of course and there appears to be no change in the vit or eye things, but as far as hashi goes - he's at least turned tail and is in retreat.
She's only one case (but a very special "one" to me), but based on her results "concern" isn't a word I (or her doc), would use.
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Jimmy Moore has looked into the LC-thyroid thing on numerous occasions. You might want to check out his stuff on it. His general consensus is that the reported thyroid issues related to low carb have more to do with not eating enough in general than they do with not eating carbs. Janie Bowthorpe of Stop The Thyroid Madness is also a proponent of low carb and even interviewed with Jimmy.
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/do-low-carb-diets-lower-thyroid-function-lets-ask-the-experts/15305
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2010/07/23/janie-and-jimmy-of-the-livin’-la-vida-low-carb-show/
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/7-lingering-myths-everyone-should-know-about-low-carb-ketogenic-diets/233840 -
deansdad101 wrote: »
Hot;hotsungirl wrote: »Perhaps I shouldn't have started reading online about medical challenges for people with hypothyroid and Hashimotos on low carb diets. They all were pro LC sites, but strong about concerns for those with thyroid issues. Anyone else on here hypothyroid or Hashimotos, please share or add me. I would be interested to hear how you have found LC. I'm only on day five. So far, I feel fine, although I don't want to go back to how I felt when my T3 was really messing me up. (plus I like the fact I still have good hair and my eyebrows grew back ;-)
Caro
Not me personally, but my sweetie has had hashi's all of her adult life as well as vitiligo and the "dry eye" thing (can't remember the name, solgrins or something like that) - all autoimmunes.
Almost like clockwork, prior to LCHF (started 3/14, fully NK/FA about 3-4 months now), she gained weight on the meds as predicted and had her dose increased every year or two.
Since NK/FA she's had dose CUT each of her last three visits, is back to her HS weight, never felt better or had more energy and looks like a million bucks!
All three AD's are still there of course and there appears to be no change in the vit or eye things, but as far as hashi goes - he's at least turned tail and is in retreat.
She's only one case (but a very special "one" to me), but based on her results "concern" isn't a word I (or her doc), would use.
YOU made my day with this post!!!! :-)0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »Jimmy Moore has looked into the LC-thyroid thing on numerous occasions. You might want to check out his stuff on it. His general consensus is that the reported thyroid issues related to low carb have more to do with not eating enough in general than they do with not eating carbs. Janie Bowthorpe of Stop The Thyroid Madness is also a proponent of low carb and even interviewed with Jimmy.
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/do-low-carb-diets-lower-thyroid-function-lets-ask-the-experts/15305
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2010/07/23/janie-and-jimmy-of-the-livin’-la-vida-low-carb-show/
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/7-lingering-myths-everyone-should-know-about-low-carb-ketogenic-diets/23384
Excellent links! I tried some searching and found nothing so focused. Thank you so much!!
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What do you think of the calorie count they refer to in the first reference you gave? Not to be below 1500 for average woman? I know people on LC Ketosis who do not count cals at all. ?0
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hotsungirl wrote: »What do you think of the calorie count they refer to in the first reference you gave? Not to be below 1500 for average woman? I know people on LC Ketosis who do not count cals at all. ?
Sounds about right. Unless you're below 5 feet tall, you're very likely to need more than 1500 calories, especially with low carb (which often allows for an extra few hundred calories for the same goal results).
Most people don't count calories and it works for them. That's in large part due to the fact that they are successful at self-regulating. However, the calorie-obsessed, "eat less, move more, even to absurdity" mindset has convinced women that less is better and to eat as little as humanly possible. As a result, a large portion of women eat 800-1200 calories, and sometimes even less, when they should be eating quite a bit more than that. I think the 1500 calorie guideline is for these women, who are stuck in the idea that they have to eat very little in order to lose or maintain weight. It basically says, "you're allowed to eat more, and for the sake of your health and body, you should."0 -
I am 5'9". My weight was 140 lbs for years. I blame the rest on years of messed up dieting, middle age and thyroid madness. Here I am!
I am listening to all those links, and links from those links. Thank you again. I really like Dr Stephen Phinney. http://www.askthelowcarbexperts.com/2012/08/23-long-term-stalls-weight-gain-even-on-a-well-formulated-low-carb-diet-dr-stephen-phinney/
He points a finger at too low of calorie counts on LC/HF not too low carbs -- he says feed people adequate calories and they do just fine, hypothyroid or not. He refers to lots of research studies and numbers.0 -
I better read up on these links then. I have been maintaining the lower calorie while doing the LCHF. I also have hypothyroid. Have for over 30 years. I was off the thyroid meds for about 7 years due to lack of insurance. Now back on them and I am noticing my eyebrows are growing back but they stick straight out. Weirdness at its best.
I still have chores but will hang onto this so I can get to read about it. I have been doing the LC since just about Thanksgiving.0 -
shadesofidaho wrote: »I better read up on these links then. I have been maintaining the lower calorie while doing the LCHF. I also have hypothyroid. Have for over 30 years. I was off the thyroid meds for about 7 years due to lack of insurance. Now back on them and I am noticing my eyebrows are growing back but they stick straight out. Weirdness at its best.
I still have chores but will hang onto this so I can get to read about it. I have been doing the LC since just about Thanksgiving.
Just throwing it out there that I switched to Armour Thyroid Meds two years ago for a bunch of reasons...and it is dirt cheap compared to Synthroid--cheap enough that I pay the $11 full cost of the prescription for a month rather than put it through Blue Cross with my $25 insurance deductible ;-)
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I was on the wonderful OLD Armour until they took it off the market. Then switched to synthroid or Levothyroxine. Neither gave me the feel good that the old Armour did. When I went back on thyroid the doc put me on Levo and again I felt wonderful because my body was finally getting thyroid again and my horrible psoriasis cleared within about 6 weeks and has not appeared again hoping it stays away. BUT I was not feeling as good as I had been. I read about NP thyroid and it is supposed to be the same as the good old Armour. Insurance will not cover it and it cost me 12.47 for 30 with a Good Rx card. Levo cost me 12.00 with insurance. Like you it is worth it to me to pay the difference. I liked the NP because you could dissolve it under the tongue to kind of main line it faster. Then I discovered you could also do the same with the Levo. Neither taste bad. Sweet which worries me what is in it to make it sweet.
I think I am feeling better on the NP Thyroid. It appears my heart beat has slowed down into the 70s verses high 80s to 90s.
Very interesting articles. I will see about upping my usual calorie intake. I did come down with hypothyroid after being on CL for 10 years. Maybe some merit here but I was also extreemly low calorie because I was suddenly gaining weight. Well it was a big mess of stress and changes in my life where it is common for women to become hypo T. I did not have a baby just saying this is another scenario of stress for some women causing them to become hypo T
I listened to the videos. Very interesting.0
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