Any Other High Calorie Low Carbers
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deniserichardson11 wrote: »annieboomboom wrote: »Not weird , Fit. Young. Yes, you are young and your metabolism is young . I am old, and my metabolism is old. Therefore Y (outh) +C (calories) = dumb lucky.
You wait. You too will be old someday with the metabolism of a snail.
^^^^^^^what she said!!!!
If i eat over 1700 calories a day i will not lose... Period.
Echo the over 50, female sentiment...I did 6 weeks of LCHF with not worrying about the calories. After the initial water loss, did not lose any more. I wasn't stuffed but I wasn't hungry. And I was measuring and weighing food precisely. Two weeks ago decided to monitor calories and limit to 1375-1600 depending on activity, just now starting to see the scale budge a very small amount. Post-menopausal women with history of dieting will not lose weight on LCHF without limiting the calories-that's my opinion based on my N=1 experience. And that 2000 calorie recommendation comes from the same people who recommend the food pyramid, correct? If so, we know what that's worth!
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deniserichardson11 wrote: »annieboomboom wrote: »Not weird , Fit. Young. Yes, you are young and your metabolism is young . I am old, and my metabolism is old. Therefore Y (outh) +C (calories) = dumb lucky.
You wait. You too will be old someday with the metabolism of a snail.
^^^^^^^what she said!!!!
If i eat over 1700 calories a day i will not lose... Period.
Echo the over 50, female sentiment...I did 6 weeks of LCHF with not worrying about the calories. After the initial water loss, did not lose any more. I wasn't stuffed but I wasn't hungry. And I was measuring and weighing food precisely. Two weeks ago decided to monitor calories and limit to 1375-1600 depending on activity, just now starting to see the scale budge a very small amount. Post-menopausal women with history of dieting will not lose weight on LCHF without limiting the calories-that's my opinion based on my N=1 experience. And that 2000 calorie recommendation comes from the same people who recommend the food pyramid, correct? If so, we know what that's worth!
Nobody will lose on any WOE without a calorie deficit. The question is if you can obtain that deficit without paying attention or if you have to monitor what you eat to stay under it. That really is one of those varies by the person issues, and the higher your calorie limit, the easier it is to do without trying. For most people, especially women who have to contend with different hormonal factors at different stages of life, not counting is a bit like playing on hard mode. You can do it, but it may be making it a lot harder than it needs to be.0 -
So for me 5'5" 208,now, 65 F and I marked sedentary, which I was told to check, it says my calorie should be 1433 on the keto calculator? I am under 20 carbs. Macros set to Carb 5% Fat 75% Protein 20%.0
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I have been eating about 2000 a day. MFP is set to 1580. I'm working on keeping my carbs down. First it was under 100 then under 80 and now I would like be under 50 carbs per day or less. The carbs add up quick!!
I don't know how others are eating so low of calories. Even doing LCHF - I'm hungry!0 -
I have been eating about 2000 a day. MFP is set to 1580. I'm working on keeping my carbs down. First it was under 100 then under 80 and now I would like be under 50 carbs per day or less. The carbs add up quick!!
I don't know how others are eating so low of calories. Even doing LCHF - I'm hungry!
Are you getting enough protein? That, and the extra fat, are what keep you feeling satiated longer. If you're trying to ease your way into it, maybe change how you're doing it. Focus on protein first, and make sure you're hitting that number every day. Then work on decreasing your carbs while you increase your fat.0 -
I will try and answer these as best and honestly as possible, even though I know some of the answers are not exactly the model of perfection. I warn you, I am long winded sometimes.But, I need some more input from you. At what date did you start eating Carnivore?
I count my official start date as the middle of July 2014. Unofficially, I had done it on and off for months before. I have runs of 2-3 weeks without any plants as far back as January and February of '14. I started keto October 16, 2013... the same day my MFP logs count begins. So, keto has been almost 500 days now.And I see that you have lost 30KG, but looking at your "status" (I went back 3 months) I see no recent losses (is there a way to turn that off in MFP?). Yes, I understand that you quit recording your food diary, but then took it up again for a friend. Or, are you in maintenance?
Officially, I am in maintenance. I have no further "official" weight loss goal that I am working towards. I counted myself in maintenance when I hit 75 kg. It isn't technically my "not overweight" amount, but it was the amount that I wanted to hit when I started. Unofficially, I would like to get down to 65 kg (currently around 71-72 kg). That's a relatively knew decision. When I initially went carnivore, I weighed approximately 74 kg. I saw a quick drop of 2 kg, down to about 72. Then I slowly slid down to 69 kg from September to November.
In November, I had my wedding/honeymoon. I ate all the things. I subsisted that whole week on the foods that I'd never normally eat. My wife begged me to not do the carnivore thing during the honeymoon. I drank a lot of alcohol, ate a ton of sweets, and all the bread and fries I could stomach. I came back from that trip at almost 74 kg. I also came back with a wife that insisted I return to being a strict carnivore. Turns out she like the non-gassy version of me. I liked it better as well. Actually, that whole week just proved to me that I really have not lost anything by giving up all those foods. All the foods that I thought I would want to eat never tasted all that good and just made me feel like crap.
Now, remember that 74 kg was my "I'm already in maintenance" number. So, when I got home, I didn't immediately go into weight-loss mode. I just went back to eating at maintenance. My weight has been slowly bumping around, but gradually sinking. I am happy with my current weight and I'm also happy to continue losing at a rate of about 1 kg a month. Many people might not be happy with that rate. If I wanted to lose more, I would pay a little more attention to stopping when I was satisfied and less often eat until I felt stuffed.Or if you are not in maintenance, how many more pounds do you have to go? What was your initial weight and what is your goal weight? I see you are in Palm Coast Florida, why do you use KG's as opposed to use English units (pounds)?
My initial keto start weight was 92.5 kg (204 lbs). That was down from 97.3 kg (215 lbs) from when I went paleo. Yeah, baby steps. Still less than my highest weight (which is where the 30 kg number comes from) when I first joined MFP years ago. Why metric? Because I am a nerd about stuff like that. I've converted all my scales, thermostat, fitbit, everything to metric. I only use standard units when they are provided that way. I measure all my stuff in metric. It's not harder when you use it and don't convert out of it. I prefer it. It also makes some calculations (like BMI) direct and without magic numbers involved.Or, do you never weigh? (and add to MFP). I am not sure why you would do that? I can see not doing the food diary (laborious). but not the weight, that is so simple. There must be reasons for this. I mean, one of the biggest features of MFP is to share methods and results.
I weigh nearly every day. I record my weight on my FitBit, which automatically updates MFP. So yeah, those fluctuations and the mostly stable weight recently... that's the reality of it. Truth be told, this last week I have lost a grand total of no weight. My scale today is 0.1 kg lower than last Monday (and my trend-line is actually up 0.07 kg). My tape measurements are all down though, enough to make the bf% calculations say I lost 1% over the last week. I know that's probably not true. The result is probably in the middle. I've probably lost a little weight and a little body fat. It will show up eventually.
I have faith in my body doing the right thing over the long run. I've learned patience. I'm eating this way for the rest of my life, so the week to week results are not overly concerning to me.I will not judge your methods/results, as you are one of my most respected people on this list for doing it right and contributing to LCD and the Keto group.
Please judge my methods and results. I am not above reproach or question. Certainly my way might not work for everyone. I suspect that few people could lose weight eating at my calorie level. I definitely eat more than the TDEE calculations or my Fitbit say that I should for my age, height, weight, gender, and activity level.
You (and anyone else) are welcome to call me crazy, foolish, a loon, or whatever you see fit. I rather expect it.One last question, since you don't eat plants, and mostly meat, do you have any problems with constipation? If you do, what do you do for that?
Generally, I don't have any problems. When I have had some it's been because of massive amounts of cheese. Now I avoid cheese (except in small amounts) and drink coffee. I am as regular as a clock after my morning coffee. I actually end up going 1-3 times a day every day. There's not a lot of bulk, but it's pretty consistent. I recommend people who get constipated focus on eating enough fat and drinking enough water, but I already eat tons of fat and drink coffee and water all day long.
I hope that answers most of it. Feel free to ask for clarification or something else, if you think of it.0 -
Echo the over 50, female sentiment...[. . .]decided to monitor calories and limit to 1375-1600 depending on activity, just now starting to see the scale budge a very small amount. Post-menopausal women with history of dieting will not lose weight on LCHF without limiting the calories
There's a lot of confusion in this thread. I am asking for people who are eating a lot of calories to tell me about it. If you're convinced (possibly correctly) that you can't eat 2000+ calories a day, that's fine. This thread isn't saying you should up your calories to this level. You're just not the target audience for this thread. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a very rare demographic on here who is aiming for maintenance (or at least 2000 calories plus) level low-carb diets. You think hitting <20g of carbs a day when eating 1300 calories is tough, it's a bit more difficult for those hitting twice as many calories (assuming they aren't nuts like me).
Granted, some people eating higher are also aiming for non-keto carb levels. Still, it's not about what level you can eat and still lose weight. That's a different thread. This is asking who, out there, is eating 2000 calories, or more, or around that amount, each day. If this thread was asking who was 6 foot tall or taller, I wouldn't expect a bunch of people coming in and complaining that they are only 5'5" and that's because they're a woman and genetics and such.
If you're, instead, wishing to argue the need for tracking, counting, and restricting calories to lose weight... you've accidentally posted in the wrong thread. That's the thread for counting calories. This thread has nothing to do with weight loss. It's just purely about consumption levels.0 -
Ok, lets quantify that. In relative gram-wise amounts, he is eating a lot of fat. But percentage-wise, not so. Meat is high protein. His diet (not counting carbs) average for the last week is 58.1% fat (220g per day) and 41.9% protein (159 g per day). He is obviously fine with that. I am not judging. I have a higher fat level (percentage wise) and I have occasional problems with constipation. I am wondering if I eat a lot more protein, if I will get even more so constipated?
My macro averages for last week were:
Carb Grams: 2.3
Fat Grams: 220.1
Protein Grams: 158.7
Total Calories: 2624.9
Fat/Protein/Carbs: 75.46% / 24.18% / .35%
Ketogenic Ratio [>1.5]: 2.32
So, yeah, you pretty much had the numbers spot on. The macros by weight (not calories) would be Fat/Protein/Carbs 57.8% / 41.6% / 0.6%, although I don't know many people who do macros strictly by weight.
In absolute amounts, I consume way more protein than most people here. The 158.7 grams is above the upper limit the keto-calculator sets for me (~129g/day).Additionally, 1/2 of protein converts to sugar just like carbs do.
This would only be for excess protein, and it's not exactly a scientific certainty.
http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-you-eat-excess-protein-does-it-turn.htmlIn brief- Gluconeogenesis is a slow process and the rate doesn't change much even under a wide range of conditions.
- The hypothesis that the rate of gluconeogenesis is primarily regulated by the amount of available material, e.g. amino acids, has not been supported by experiment. Having insufficient material available for gluconeogenesis will obviously limit the rate, but in the experiments we reviewed, having excess material did not increase the rate.
- We haven't found any solid evidence to support the idea that excess protein is turned into glucose.
- More experiments are needed to confirm that this still holds true in keto dieters.
This is not to say that excess protein doesn't effect the level of ketosis, it certainly does. It's just to say that it's not like an extra steak with 100g of protein is the same as consuming a quarter cup of sugar (50g).Currently, I am eating a little more than half the protien per day that he is. I am trying to see if I should continue with my lowish carb Keto regimen or convert to the no-ish carbs Carnivore Keto style?
That's a decision that you'll have to make on your own. It's possible to eat a lower-protein way with what I eat. If you really think about it, how much of your daily calories does the vegetable matter account for? It's at most 80 calories (if you're under 20g). That's not even a tablespoon of butter. You'd basically eat exactly the same foods with an extra pat or two of butter and be at the same calories.
I know it feels like my diet has to have way more protein than the standard keto diet, because I'm not eating those veggies. But, those veggies aren't adding fats. They're a mix of carbs and small amounts of protein. If you're not changing the amount you're eating, dropping the plants won't really effect the protein content. At most, you could drop the plants and add 6g more protein and 6g more fat (a single egg) to replace those 80 calories and be spot on with your old calorie levels. That's not exactly an amount that's going to hugely change how ketogenic your diet is.0 -
The following is my weight chart for the last year.
You'll see that I experimented with sugar-alcohols in June of '14. It did not work out well. I gave it the whole month, just to be sure, but it's not what I liked. The weight chart goes dead in November (when I got married and went on the honeymoon) and comes back with a vengeance with the weight gained over the trip. That was dumb. I didn't even enjoy it. I wish I has just kept eating the way I always do. I would have enjoyed the rest of the trip more, because I would have felt better physically.
If you go through my food logs, I think the zero carb starts July 17th. You'll see a couple slips. I actually am more likely to log when things go wrong than when they're right. My big temptations are nuts and Atkins bars. My wife was doing low-carb at this time, and she kept nuts and Atkins bars around all the time. There's a couple spots in there where you can see I fell down. Yes, Goat is human.
Also, I am incredibly stupid sometimes. I had/have a bad tendency to trust jerky and then log it after eating. Some things are logged based on site information, but not how I was served it (a lot of ribs which I get with no sauce, but log as if they were sauced). Also, a lot of my early days involved a lot of hot-dogs and processed meats. Those still make an appearance these days, but very rarely. Any day under 1700 calories is almost certainly missing a couple servings of ground beef or a steak. So, the logs are incredibly imperfect.0 -
I will try and answer these as best and honestly as possible, even though I know some of the answers are not exactly the model of perfection. I warn you, I am long winded sometimes.
<snip> Feel free to ask for clarification or something else, if you think of it.But, I need some more input from you. At what date did you start eating Carnivore?
Thank you FIT Goat! That answers my questions. As I always thought, I think this diet will be a dream to go on maintenance. My current methods are (5, 25, 70) are working well for weight loss. Yes, I am not eating as heavily as you are, but I am in a race to lose the weight fast. If I wasn't in a hurry, I would probably be eating like you and let my body lose it slowly.
You are living proof that a person can eat a lot of calories and not gain weight. I look forward to maintenance day and following in your footsteps.
Thank you for all the help.
Dan the Man from Michigan
P.S. My answer to your using metric on this group: "Me alegro de que usted tiene que perder el tiempo traduciendo de este mensaje de un idioma a otro . Ahora, usted sabe cómo me siento. Las unidades métricas e inglesas son como a diferentes idiomas. Estamos en los EE.UU. hablan el idioma del"0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »<snip>
Your percentages must be for the grams. Keep in mind that fat has more than twice the calories per gram as protein. As a result, his caloric ratios (as normally referenced in keto circles) are closer to 75/25. Not far from what you're already doing.
You are right. Trying to do this in a hurry at lunch reminds me of the phrase: "Haste Makes Waste."
Dan the Man from Michigan
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P.S. My answer to your using metric on this group: "Me alegro de que usted tiene que perder el tiempo traduciendo de este mensaje de un idioma a otro . Ahora, usted sabe cómo me siento. Las unidades métricas e inglesas son como a diferentes idiomas. Estamos en los EE.UU. hablan el idioma del"[/b]
{I am glad that you have to waste time translating this message from one language to another. Now, you know how I feel. Metric and English units are as different languages. We are in the US speak the language of}
lol, sorry that it bugs you. I'll try and include the conversions more often.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_systemThe metric system has been officially sanctioned for use in the United States since 1866, but it remains the only industrialised country that has not adopted the metric system as its official system of measurement. Many sources also cite Liberia and Burma as the only other countries not to have done so. Although the United Kingdom uses the metric system for most official purposes, the use of the imperial system of measure, particularly for use at home, is widespread and is permitted by the law.
It could be said that I am causing fewer people to need to translate my units than those who use pounds. Although, I end up using weird mixes of units (for example, I use calories and not joules because that's what my labels read).
The truth be told, I don't see why most people would need to translate most units anyway. If my weight is going down, that's the same in kg as in lbs. The above graph, for example, would look identical except the specific labels would change for each point. When talking about my measurements, I do [usually] try and include the conversions for those who prefer pounds. I don't always remember, but I am conscientious of the fact that most Americans prefer to not need to convert.
As a matter of preference, I use metric for my own personal measurements. I don't require/expect them from anyone else. Because I use metric at home, I prefer to log in metric. Doing the conversions daily would be tedious.
Edit: If it helps, I started with MFP at 225 lbs (BMI 38.5)
That's not my highest, which I can only estimate at around 230 and maybe 235 (BMI around 40).
I am currently bouncing around 156-158 pounds (BMI around 27)
My lowest doing CICO was 165 (and I could not sustain that for more than a couple weeks). This is where my original goal came from (BMI 28).
The lowest I have been before the wedding was 153 (BMI 26).
And, my "semi-goal" is 143 pounds which would put me right into the normal weight range (BMI 24.5).
I am a very short man at 5'4" tall. Which is why some of these numbers may seem pretty small.0 -
Echo the over 50, female sentiment...[. . .]decided to monitor calories and limit to 1375-1600 depending on activity, just now starting to see the scale budge a very small amount. Post-menopausal women with history of dieting will not lose weight on LCHF without limiting the calories
There's a lot of confusion in this thread. I am asking for people who are eating a lot of calories to tell me about it. If you're convinced (possibly correctly) that you can't eat 2000+ calories a day, that's fine. This thread isn't saying you should up your calories to this level. You're just not the target audience for this thread. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a very rare demographic on here who is aiming for maintenance (or at least 2000 calories plus) level low-carb diets. You think hitting <20g of carbs a day when eating 1300 calories is tough, it's a bit more difficult for those hitting twice as many calories (assuming they aren't nuts like me).
Granted, some people eating higher are also aiming for non-keto carb levels. Still, it's not about what level you can eat and still lose weight. That's a different thread. This is asking who, out there, is eating 2000 calories, or more, or around that amount, each day. If this thread was asking who was 6 foot tall or taller, I wouldn't expect a bunch of people coming in and complaining that they are only 5'5" and that's because they're a woman and genetics and such.
If you're, instead, wishing to argue the need for tracking, counting, and restricting calories to lose weight... you've accidentally posted in the wrong thread. That's the thread for counting calories. This thread has nothing to do with weight loss. It's just purely about consumption levels.
Wow, brutal. I've always felt welcome here until now. I'm not insisting on anything nor arguing (go back and reread). I'm just adding a different perspective for others who might be out there like me. No worries, I'll definitley avoid your threads going forward.0 -
Wow, brutal. I've always felt welcome here until now. I'm not insisting on anything nor arguing (go back and reread). I'm just adding a different perspective for others who might be out there like me. No worries, I'll definitley avoid your threads going forward.
I apologize if you took that personally. It's not really aimed at you, although you happened to be the specific person I quoted as an example. There are plenty of other posts I could have picked. I just scrolled up and picked the first "I'm not able to eat that much" post.
There's no need to avoid my threads. I think, under most circumstances, you'll find I'm one of the most accepting people on here. I'm all about people doing what works for them. Even in the specific thread about counting calories, I welcome you to come and tell me that you need to count (even though I say you shouldn't).
The only thing I am pointing out is that this thread was asking for people who eat a bunch to chime in. If you go back and read it, there's really no statement that you need to eat this much or should be eating this much. I quote the USDA numbers for maintenance for women (which is not what most women here are trying to achieve nor is it even applicable to all women who might be).
I get it. I do. Most people aren't eating this much. Most people can't/won't eat this much because it isn't in their current goals. That's fine. But, I already knew (from reading every other thread) that most people here are eating much less than I am.0 -
Could be the slogan for a fast food franchise, "Haste Makes Waist."Dragonwolf wrote: »<snip>
Your percentages must be for the grams. Keep in mind that fat has more than twice the calories per gram as protein. As a result, his caloric ratios (as normally referenced in keto circles) are closer to 75/25. Not far from what you're already doing.
You are right. Trying to do this in a hurry at lunch reminds me of the phrase: "Haste Makes Waste."
Dan the Man from Michigan
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Sorry FIT, I seem to have diverted the thread. The only excuse I can offer is the same one Geraldine gave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kaiLcwHXB40 -
KeithF6250 wrote: »Sorry FIT, I seem to have diverted the thread. The only excuse I can offer is the same one Geraldine gave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kaiLcwHXB4
lol, no worries. I think this thread is hopelessly diverted. Half of it is about the specifics of my diet and the way I eat. A third of it is about how some people can't eat this much. There are a few people who do eat as much as I do. Not a whole lot.
In a way, it can be very weird to be in my spot. All day long I read about people in very different parts of their journey than I am. I like those times when I can help someone who is trying to figure it out, but I would like to know I'm not the only person who is eating the way/amount I do. People who eat larger amounts of calories but still avoid carbs.
Eh, maybe it's not to be. This is a weight loss site, after-all. And MFP is based on the idea of caloric restriction. I suppose those who succeed don't hang about any more. I'm an outlier in that respect too.0 -
P.S. My answer to your using metric on this group: "Me alegro de que usted tiene que perder el tiempo traduciendo de este mensaje de un idioma a otro . Ahora, usted sabe cómo me siento. Las unidades métricas e inglesas son como a diferentes idiomas. Estamos en los EE.UU. hablan el idioma del"[/b]
{I am glad that you have to waste time translating this message from one language to another. Now, you know how I feel. Metric and English units are as different languages. We are in the US speak the language of}
lol, sorry that it bugs you. I'll try and include the conversions more often.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_systemThe metric system has been officially sanctioned for use in the United States since 1866, but it remains the only industrialised country that has not adopted the metric system as its official system of measurement. Many sources also cite Liberia and Burma as the only other countries not to have done so. Although the United Kingdom uses the metric system for most official purposes, the use of the imperial system of measure, particularly for use at home, is widespread and is permitted by the law.
It could be said that I am causing fewer people to need to translate my units than those who use pounds. Although, I end up using weird mixes of units (for example, I use calories and not joules because that's what my labels read).
The truth be told, I don't see why most people would need to translate most units anyway. If my weight is going down, that's the same in kg as in lbs. The above graph, for example, would look identical except the specific labels would change for each point. When talking about my measurements, I do [usually] try and include the conversions for those who prefer pounds. I don't always remember, but I am conscientious of the fact that most Americans prefer to not need to convert.
As a matter of preference, I use metric for my own personal measurements. I don't require/expect them from anyone else. Because I use metric at home, I prefer to log in metric. Doing the conversions daily would be tedious.
Edit: If it helps, I started with MFP at 225 lbs (BMI 38.5)
That's not my highest, which I can only estimate at around 230 and maybe 235 (BMI around 40).
I am currently bouncing around 156-158 pounds (BMI around 27)
My lowest doing CICO was 165 (and I could not sustain that for more than a couple weeks). This is where my original goal came from (BMI 28).
The lowest I have been before the wedding was 153 (BMI 26).
And, my "semi-goal" is 143 pounds which would put me right into the normal weight range (BMI 24.5).
I am a very short man at 5'4" tall. Which is why some of these numbers may seem pretty small.
When I was a child (in the 60's), I use a triple beam 1000 gram scale and I did chemistry with it by weighing out chemicals. And I used the metric system sporadically in my professional career as a tool & die maker, since 1977. Since I arrived here in Michigan in 1994, (in the tool & moldmaking), we used length units "millimeters. All machining machines (mills, lathes, surface grinders, etc) in the United States were made in inch units. These machines last 10 - 50 years.
I am now in Michigan, the hub of the Car industry. They have been on the metric system since (I think) the 80's or late 70's. Unfortunately, people that build all the tooling for the car industry, aren't going to go out and buying millions of dollars worth of metric graduated equipment. So conversion was instituted. Converting to metric has been an epic failure.
And that's not all, since the auto companies specify their parts in metric, the tooling companies have to convert every dimension from metric to inches. Some even simple parts can have dozen or hundreds of dimensions. As a person converts them, they make mistakes and the tooling gets built wrong. There probably has been untold millions of dollars of mistakes made because of this. And you wonder why the American auto industry isn't competitive? And why American cars are so expensive? Well, that's part of it. It was a stupid idea to change to metric when we are in inches. It was a another well intentioned idea (made into law) by the government.
Have you ever heard of well intentioned idea from the government that has to do with diet or food pyramids?
I rest my case...
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
P.S. I knew how much you weighed in pounds, (I still have to calculate it) but I doubt that only a fraction of the hundreds of people, that read your post, knew. Yes, the Aussies probably know, and other foreign countries, but I would reckon that 90% of the readers know what a pound is.
From my memory:
1 oz = 28.35 grams
1 pound = 453.9 grams
1 kilo is 2.2 pounds
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I was born the year the metric system was introduced to Australia so I grew up with imperial measurements at home and metric measures at school. I have found this to be particularly useful. Many bathroom scales interchange between the two. 0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »Sometimes I feel like I am the only "high" calorie low carb eater around these parts. Am I really the only person with a 2,000 calorie/day floor (that's as low as I go) and a 2,500+ calorie/day average? I know I am probably unique in this aspect because I am teetering on the edge of maintenance (losing 0.25-0.5 lbs a week, if anything). But, come on. You can't all be starving yourselves!
How many more people here eat plenty of food (or don't track but probably exceed 1800+ calories each day)?
My calories are set at a 1 pound loss per week, just for S&G's. This gives me 1750 as a starting point. Like you, I eat when I'm hungry. I try to always start with my fats and go from there. If I'm hungry, I eat. If I'm feeling crummy, I eat lots of fat and sodium and find that it usually was electrolytes going out of balance. Like this weekend, I think I hit Keto Flu instead of just carb flu (I hit ballpark 20 net carbs instead of 35-50, as I'd set out start), but I'm feeling 90% again, and well on the road back to awesomeness.
The calories are kind of a ballpark starting point. More often than not, with two walks and minor activity I burn 300-500 calories daily, without an HRM to even show how much more I might be burning on activities that don't include steps as a counter (doing laundry at the laundromat burns a bunch that doesn't end up in my tracker).
So, with moderate activity, my calories easily end up of 2000 in any given day. Do I care? Not really. I'm tracking for the sake of carbs and macros. Calories are a byproduct. Kind of random data like my daily scale tracking for now. As I'm learning my body's rhythms again, I find that I kind of level out in that range (1800 on a lower activity day, nearer 2000-2200 on a heavy activity day) without worrying about calories themselves.
I am losing slowly. I'm around the ten pound mark and today is day 40 something...but I'm down a few inches too, so I'm not worried. I also have PCOS, but before I started out on LCHF, a number of other factors (conditions previously untreated and some supplements to balance me out until my diet gets everything under control) were addressed and got my hormones fairly close to balanced. I do use Metformin to help with the insulin resistance that was questionable on blood work, but I had all the symptoms of, but I think I may be able to go off that when I go back to the doctor in April.
As long as I feel as good as I do when not in flu stage, I figure I'm gaining health and the weight losses will follow whenever the heck they get around to it. I spent the better part of last year really getting my head and heart in the right parts of this game, so to speak. And I've found awesome support from @Dragonwolf and @Alliwan as well as several others here now too! It has made this transition to gaining ground on better health so much more sane for me!
Thanks to all!!
Awesome, very helpful!0 -
I do keto so I won't die. ... Keto is what I eat, weight loss is how much of it I eat.
I love how you defined that! It makes sense. I hope you are with us for a long time to come, JPW!
The Eat more to Weigh Less group makes good sense to me too, but I have a hard time sticking with weight workouts
. No problem with eating more though. . 0
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