Success with Atkins!!!!!
beachbabe1971
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Hey Ya'll. I went from 289 to 200 on Atkins! Loved it. Then I was 245 to 235! Ugh!!! No more roller coaster, naysayers or negativity!!!!! First mini goal/challenge....... 30 lbs by April 30!!!! Started March 1st... 235 now and miserable and very little support other then a few besties, hubby and adult son! Everyone else laughs as they cram fast food in their mouths and complain about how bad they feel. So I'm kicking "Their Habits!"
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way to go, stopped the climb before you gained it all back!, I have become a person who just pretty much stays on atkins type eating all the time now, I feel so much better when I love carb, and the bad foods just arnt tempting me any longer, i hope the same for you0
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That's great to hear! Very encouraging for us newbies! I hope that you'll make your April goal
Do you have any helpful suggestions for a newbie?0 -
I don't usually eat fast food but I'd be OK with scoffing down a bacon cheeseburger without the bun now & again if stuck at a fast food place with friends/family.
Where there's a will there's a way. You sound pretty determined to find that way, so good for you!
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Most of us actually do have a negative reaction to carbs. (Lots of detail available if you care to look.) Therefore, most of us WILL be continuing on this WOE for the rest of our lives. Maybe after a few false starts. It took me a while to get it through my head that I really need this. The carbs are just not worth how I feel when I eat them, let alone the extra pounds I carry around. Makes me tired.0
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I am so disappointed with my VA Kidney doc who tells me with almost grim delight that Dr. Adkins high fat diet ACTUALLY caused him to have a massive brain stroke, then he fell and died on icy pavement. Says she worked in the NYC hospital at the time and knows the "truth"… how do I trust her?
She assured me I could continue my LCHF diet, with tweaks. But no so much after all if she believes fats are bad,
this is the SAME doctor who tells me SHE has lost 46 pounds on a Low Carb diet....but she NEVER told me what else she ate… maybe a ton of protein, which she knows I can't do.
Then the renal RD she sent me to ALSO slams fats, especially butter, as causing heart disease and such. So BOTH of them really disturbed me…I came home in a real funk.
The facts are LCHF works for me, I DO NOT want to add lots of carbs…so once again I am on my own to follow a WOE that works. At least I can read my LCHF books, and websites and articles that provide research that disproves this fear of fat.
I did need to do some changes, some veggies are too high in potassium and phosphorous..fine. I am a well educated patient, and am proactive in protecting my kidney and continuing to lose weight.
Also Canadian Kidney doctor Dr. Fung treats his seriously ill diabetic patents with fasting and VLC diets…he had clearly told me fats will not harm me, my sole kidney, or cause heart disease. or strokes. sigh0 -
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Also Canadian Kidney doctor Dr. Fung treats his seriously ill diabetic patents with fasting and VLC diets…he had clearly told me fats will not harm me, my sole kidney, or cause heart disease. or strokes. sigh[/quote]
I am too new at this diet to really comment on the health benefits but if it is working for you, I would stick with it. I find it interesting that your doctor lost weight on a diet she disapproves of; not sure if I would take her advice. This WOE seems contrary to current dogma but remember, it is dogma and it is changing, however slowing. I liked Jason Fung presentation; it makes sense. And my husband's doctor has recommended this for him.
Also, the new Atkins isn't as high protein as the old Atkins so the comments that your doctor made about Atkins himself may have been true, but certainly cannot be applied to the newer diet. And you know, I have one unfortunate friend who ate the recommended 'normal' low fat diet and was an exercise fiend and he had a massive stoke in his late 50's. And another such character, who avoided that fate but sheer chance and a good hospital. It happens. Cause and effect? Only when there are massive numbers studied over some time do I believe it. Not the logic of it happened to one person, so it must be true. I've known smokers who lived until their 90s; does not convince me to start smoking.
Hang in there. I think we are on the right course. And so says the group in LCHF. Many have had excellent long term results in their health number. I would ask your doctors for some study names that show that fats are bad so that you can get more education in the area. I think they will be hard pressed to come up with concrete evidenced based long term studies, or so I understand from Dr Fung.
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I enjoy Dr. Fung's lectures on Youtube. Another good lecture I found (from a long seminar) is called Cut the Killer Carbs. Then there is Dr. Eric Westman's and Peter Attia's lectures. So much free, good info out there now!
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I had another 'go round' with my Docs, and got them to agree I can do 60 days on my LC diet, then test for high potassium, etc. On one hand they push the carbs, and eating meat…but when I listen to them my kidney function drops.
So doing it my way.. I can stick to a vegetarian LCHF diet, with supplemented essential Amino Acids, never have malnutrition…and hopefully gain health, and lose weight.
The biggest sticking point ( doesnt apply to anyone here, just my own issue) is the Docs look at a major 'failed' study on Kidney health as "proof" for the advice they give. BUT they do not know the REAL story behind the study, why it failed, what was done wrong, and that it actually proves NOTHING like they think.
ME trying to tell them this? of course they think I am a nutcase.
I take comfort in the fact the Europeans, Swedes, Chinese and other nations ARE learning from this kidney study, and treating their patients with a VLprotein, no meat diet..and it is saving them from dialysis..which is my goal.0 -
It really is hard to go against the current 'wisdom' particularly when you have really big health issues.
I would find it difficult to go low protein and low carbs but as I get used to this WOE, I can see my way through. I am realizing that when I lost my first 25lbs on CICO diet, it really was somewhat low carb and I was eating milk and fish protein mostly. Now, not so much milk protein to keep more strictly to low carb.
My husband goes for his first A1C test this week after 3 months on Atkins. He has lost 12 lbs in that time, and his daily checks of BS have been much better reading than when eating carbs. So, we are really just starting this journey and I see some adaption needed in the future because of too much processed meat in his diet. But change happens gradually unless there is a clear message from his body to fix something now.
I hope your tests come back with results that show what you are doing is working for you.0 -
Hello all, I have been reading the discussion of dasher 602 and Ketogenic back from Sept and oct. I am new on this site but wanted to recommend the book" "Why we get fat and what to do about it" by Gary Taubes. It is written from the scientific POV but extremely readable and there will be many helpful points for you to bring to your doc Ketogenic. Also there is discussion of the A-Z study which was a year study comparing Atkins, Zone, Ornish and Traditional weight loss diets and Atkins came out tops in all things. This study was run by Christopher Gardner, director of Nutrition studies at the Stanford Prevention Research center. (He is also a vegetarian for the last 25 years) and described the results of the study as a 'bitter pill to swallow"
You can hear the YouTube _ "The battle of weight loss diets: Is anyone winning at loosing?"
Hope this is useful and look forward to reading more discussion here on how people are doing on this way of eating.0 -
Thanks, Marilaz1, I will look up the book and the youtube. My husband and I have continued on this way of eating. His A1C at his last checkup was great! His next appointment is April where we hope he will be taken off one of the high priced diabetic medications.
My recent check up went well too although I have high cholesterol (both kinds). Difficult because I understand high bad cholesterol is often a short term result of this diet, but over time, the cholesterol drops. So, I am taking the medication but hope that I too will benefit from this diet over time. I have to admit that Christmas rather did-in the diet but not too bad and after 2 days back "on the wagon" half of the gains are going already.
I am not often on this board having joined the LCHF group but I do appreciate Atkins eating support.0
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