*Total Opposite* of our beliefs
GrannyMayOz
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Wow, how different can this be?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-nTiyuW780k
The things she says about meat and fat just about made my eyes pop out of my head!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-nTiyuW780k
The things she says about meat and fat just about made my eyes pop out of my head!
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I stopped at the "You can go to town on the pasta. You can have five bowls of the pasta. Eat until you're stuffed and satisfied." I just saw that, and went nope. Not going to listen to crazy town.0
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That 'pasta' was spiralised zucchini/courgette, not flour and egg, but I certainly understand why you didn't understand that.
Zucchini is the Australian word
Courgette in the English/UK word and I can't remember what they're called in America0 -
Zucchini is what we call it. I love it.0
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You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.0 -
I saw "Go Fruit Yourself" and the 30 Bananas A Day link and immediately closed the tab. That crowd is crazy town, and I'm not saying that just because we're on the opposite end of the spectrum. She and her partner, Harley Johnson (aka Durianrider) are bonafide nuts. He's actually slandered and shunned people who tried eating his way and have it backfire horribly on them.0 -
You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.0 -
Ugh, the stupidest video I've seen, but comments are hysterical.
It's 12 pm, do you know where your bacon is?0 -
You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well, I said there are lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
You probably won't find many skinny pastafarians.
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You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/0 -
He says that everyone should leave their job and 'forage' (which means steal) fruit and travel the world as a free spirit. Trouble is, if everyone left their jobs, who would fly him around the world? He leaves people in tears and/or fuming in every forum he touches. Yes, 'crazy town' is a far too polite description for him. She used to be kind and gentle, but 8 years living with him seems to have sent her over the edge as well. Same militant behaviour as we see with the CICO people.Dragonwolf wrote: »I saw "Go Fruit Yourself" and the 30 Bananas A Day link and immediately closed the tab. That crowd is crazy town, and I'm not saying that just because we're on the opposite end of the spectrum. She and her partner, Harley Johnson (aka Durianrider) are bonafide nuts. He's actually slandered and shunned people who tried eating his way and have it backfire horribly on them.
He was on an Australian TV show 8 years ago comparing different diets in athletes and the doctor said that his B12 was the lowest she had ever seen. His reply? "Awesome!" He'd been drawing sickness benefits (mental illness, which is no surprise) for many years - no idea if he still does. I hope not because his website would be earning him sufficient income now. As an Aussie tax-payer I'm paying him to do nothing but revel in hurting people
Oh well, there are better people to think about.
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You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/
I love that quote. When I watched his videos, I snorted so loud when I heard that. That's exactly the case. Which reminds me I should go link them in the Launch Pad if I haven't already.
Seriously, it's actually disturbing and disgusting how we've been lied to and led down an unhealthy path. Millions of obese and unhealthy people. All because they thought they were smarter than science. And because their greed was larger than their ethics. My mother ruined her life and ended up obese with diabetes. I'm not falling for that crap any more, and neither will my children. I got the chance to tell about 5 people about low-carb when I took my kids to my best friend's daughters b-day party yesterday. I hadn't seen them since the last party of the kid's youngest sibling's party in August, so I looked quite different. So many glazed eyes once I mentioned watching carbs...we've got a long way to go before we get everyone well. Sigh... The first thing they all asked was"what pill/drug are you taking?" W. T. F.?
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I can't wait until I've lost enough weight that it shows in a big way. I feel like I've been yammering about weight loss for 40 years and people around me are sick to death of hearing about it. They don't want to hear my excitement about LCHF, so I just have to shut my mouth and let it happen. Then maybe, maybe, someone will say, "how'd you do it?"0
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Ha ha, I immediately knew who you were talking about! Those people are nuts!0
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You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/
Oh, I agree. That's why I said "appear to work for weight loss." The fact is you can lose weight on low fat, but keeping it off is a whole 'nother issue. I don't think low fat is healthy or sustainable. I wish I had a time machine and could go back 25 years and tell that to myself. I got myself up to well over 300 lbs. in the aftermath of a number of low calorie/low fat diets (including three years on the VLF vegetarian diet by Dean Ornish). More recently, my dad lost about 100 lbs. at the same time my husband and I each did. He did it by strictly calorie counting and DH and I low carb, sometimes tracking but mostly not. Now, 2.5 years later, guess who have maintained their losses and who has regained? DH and I both have about 50 lbs. left until goal, but we are not back to square one like my father is.0 -
That's an excellent point wheatless girl, about waiting for people to approach you about LCHF. (I couldn't watch that whole video, it depicted what we are all trying to get away from, we know the viewpoints are wrong.) When I first adopted a paleo/primal WOE, I was so excited about how good I felt, and weight was coming off slowly, not quickly enough for people to notice too much. I wanted to become an evangelist for eating low carb, higher fat whole foods, and did waste time urging people to throw out their sugar, flour, grains, processed foods etc. But we all know that people eating a SAD diet don't want to hear anything about low carb. They don't believe me, and don't want to even try. Now that I've gone keto, the weight loss has sped up and I have more opportunities to spread the good word. Every time someone at work asks me how I have been able to lose weight, I give them a mini 1 minute explanation, as I want to educate them without scaring them away. I hope, as the rest of the weight comes off, that I will be able to tell them more, and that someone else may be able to actually listen and benefit.0
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baconslave wrote: »You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/
I love that quote. When I watched his videos, I snorted so loud when I heard that. That's exactly the case. Which reminds me I should go link them in the Launch Pad if I haven't already.
Seriously, it's actually disturbing and disgusting how we've been lied to and led down an unhealthy path. Millions of obese and unhealthy people. All because they thought they were smarter than science. And because their greed was larger than their ethics. My mother ruined her life and ended up obese with diabetes. I'm not falling for that crap any more, and neither will my children. I got the chance to tell about 5 people about low-carb when I took my kids to my best friend's daughters b-day party yesterday. I hadn't seen them since the last party of the kid's youngest sibling's party in August, so I looked quite different. So many glazed eyes once I mentioned watching carbs...we've got a long way to go before we get everyone well. Sigh... The first thing they all asked was"what pill/drug are you taking?" W. T. F.?
It's sad/maddening, isn't it? When you mention low carb to people they immediately discount it as something they can't/won't/don't need to do.
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wheatlessgirl66 wrote: »They don't want to hear my excitement about LCHF, so I just have to shut my mouth and let it happen. Then maybe, maybe, someone will say, "how'd you do it?"
Don't be disappointed if they don't. Maybe those who have known you for years. But, they'll probably think "it will never work for me." The new people who come into your life, after you've lost the weight, will see how you eat and just think, "it must be nice to be one of those naturally thin people."
It's more than a little frustrating at times.
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You'll find lots of skinny vegetarians and fruitarians.
There's a reason the low-carb vs low-fat diet debate rages on.
Both of them work.
Low-carb works better for insulin-resistant folk.
Low-fat works better for insulin-sensitive folk.
I disagree. Low carb is a healthful diet for anyone. Low fat can appear to work for weight loss, but I really question the long term healthfulness. I said in another thread recently that when thin people get sick, their diet is never questioned, but it probably should be. The book "Grain Brain" by David Perlmutter has some good examples of why non-insulin-resistant people should follow a low carb diet.
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/
I'm confused. I clicked on the Fung link and listened to the first 5 min. It seems to be all praise and research in favor of the low carb diet. Does he go on to conclude later that LC sucks??0 -
Well after 5 plus hours of listening to Dr. Fung, I'm more on the side of the low fat diet not working really. He says over and over and over "It has a perfect track record, unblemished by success." 5 hours of showing why the low fat diet doesn't work. Wow. This guy is serious.
http://intensivedietarymanagement.com/category/lectures/the-aetiology-of-obesity-lecture-series/page/2/
I'm confused. I clicked on the Fung link and listened to the first 5 min. It seems to be all praise and research in favor of the low carb diet. Does he go on to conclude later that LC sucks??
Reread GSP's. Dr. Fung says that low FAT doesn't work.0 -
baconslave wrote: »The first thing they all asked was"what pill/drug are you taking?" W. T. F.?
You should tell them, "Reality...that's what I'm taking." *LMFAOgiggleSnorts*0
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