Swim Gear
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NoelFigart1 wrote: »
The only real problem I have with the breast stroke is that in the pool in China, no lane ropes. No etiquette. And 90% are doing a space hogging breast stroke without regard for anyone else around them. I am tempted to wear a cup to avoid permanently singing soprano if I and twisting at exactly the wrong time.
I try really hard to be a good citizen with my breast stroke. When I share lanes, I am really close to the lane markers and even stretch out into the other lane, assuming there is only one person there and they are swimming in the middle of their lane. If I need to, I switch to a flutter kick only while passing another swimmer. The time that I go to the pool is fairly good. I share a lane only about 25% of the time. If either of the end lanes are open, I take those because they are the least popular and the hardest to share in, leaving the middle lanes for the forward crawl swimmers.Kida_Adeylne wrote: »fishgutzy - lane ropes are no assurity for protection. I've been whomped several times by a ridiculously wide breast stroke in the other lane.
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In addition to goggles and other things listed by the others, I also have a watch that I can use to time laps. It's a cheap one but it has big numbers that I can see without glasses. I can't see small numbers and I can't see the lap clock from a distance.0
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See, I wish that this level of common courtesy was the norm.I try really hard to be a good citizen with my breast stroke. When I share lanes, I am really close to the lane markers and even stretch out into the other lane, assuming there is only one person there and they are swimming in the middle of their lane. If I need to, I switch to a flutter kick only while passing another swimmer. The time that I go to the pool is fairly good. I share a lane only about 25% of the time. If either of the end lanes are open, I take those because they are the least popular and the hardest to share in, leaving the middle lanes for the forward crawl swimmers. As it is, I've shared lanes with people doing a double arm backstroke/wide frog kick with flippers combination before...
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LolestKida_Adeylne wrote: »
See, I wish that this level of common courtesy was the norm.I try really hard to be a good citizen with my breast stroke. When I share lanes, I am really close to the lane markers and even stretch out into the other lane, assuming there is only one person there and they are swimming in the middle of their lane. If I need to, I switch to a flutter kick only while passing another swimmer. The time that I go to the pool is fairly good. I share a lane only about 25% of the time. If either of the end lanes are open, I take those because they are the least popular and the hardest to share in, leaving the middle lanes for the forward crawl swimmers. As it is, I've shared lanes with people doing a double arm backstroke/wide frog kick with flippers combination before...
Lolest! I see that too! Hahaha!0 -
Kida_Adeylne wrote: »
See, I wish that this level of common courtesy was the norm.I try really hard to be a good citizen with my breast stroke. When I share lanes, I am really close to the lane markers and even stretch out into the other lane, assuming there is only one person there and they are swimming in the middle of their lane. If I need to, I switch to a flutter kick only while passing another swimmer. The time that I go to the pool is fairly good. I share a lane only about 25% of the time. If either of the end lanes are open, I take those because they are the least popular and the hardest to share in, leaving the middle lanes for the forward crawl swimmers. As it is, I've shared lanes with people doing a double arm backstroke/wide frog kick with flippers combination before...
haven't seen that but there is one elderly gentleman at the pool when I go who we call "the flapper". He wears a flotation belt and basically flaps his arms both on his stomach and back. He takes up the whole lane and is really hard to share with. He is also a really sweet guy with bad knees and is trying very hard to improve his fitness so he gets a pass from the others.
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Oh, so you're one of those smart guys! I'm eventually going to get around to fixing a very old vacuum tube radio. If that goes well, I may have some questions for you about transistors, before I try to tackle integrated circuits.
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AquaticQuests wrote: »In her book Swim Speed, Sheila Taormina sets out some developments in swimming that she indicates have brought down swimming times over the years! She says this about goggles:Invention of competitive swimming goggles. First introduced in the early 1970s, goggles enhanced a swimmer’s vision in the water. At the 1972 Olympics in Munich, goggles were not allowed. The first Olympics with goggles was in 1976.
Longer training sessions. In addition to enhancing a swimmer’s vision, goggles also impacted training methods. Swimmers could stay in the water longer, thus longer training sessions were possible, positively affecting aerobic capacities and endurance capabilities in swimmers.
That's so interesting and I have always accepted that swim goggles were invented in the 1970's because I heard it somewhere- but there must be a little more to the story. The recent issue of USMS 'Swimmer' magazine, for example, has an article about John Quincy Adams being a regular swimmer in the Potomac and notes that he was often seen with his goggles. And then there's this:
Of course, those look like motorcycle goggles and maybe they were. I guess I just wonder what the origin of this 1970's version is when it's clear that the use of goggles for swimming has a much longer evolution.
Yes, I geek out on this kind of thing.0 -
OMG what a swimsuit. *cough* Sorry, yes. Discussion of goggles invention.0
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Bought some cheap goggles and they have helped. I get less disoriented in the crawl and breaststrokes being able to see the line underwater, etc. Still cant really keep my head down on the forward crawl. I'm really going to have to tackle side breathing at some point.
And *sigh* i think I'm going to give in and buy a swim cap this week sometime too. I initially told myself I just didn't care about my hair-health. But I am getting really tired of painfully combing out the tangles. I can feel myself slowly slipping closer and closer to the full-on Darth Swimmer look. *Snorkel Breathing* Luke, Come to the poolside ...0 -
Stephen, where do you live? Is there a swim instructor or swim classes at your gym/pool? You can learn side breathing pretty quickly and get rid of the snorkel. Although the Darth Swimmer joke is funny!0
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Not actually using a snorkel (yet) ...and no I'm swimming at Gold's Gym ...no instructors and only classes are water aerobics/zoomba type ...I live in Greensboro, NC ...i looked around at other swimming choices and costs are much higher ...We have a very nice competition-grade aquatic center here in the city, but becoming a member is mucho dinero.0
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Is it more dinero than flying me down to Greensboro to give you personal lessons for a week? You can learn this very quickly if you have a reasonably patient teacher and modest motivation on your part. Visit the mucho dinero place and ask to speak to their best swimming instructor/coach. I suspect s/he will give you 4 or 5 lessons for less than it costs for you to fly me down to Greensboro. But, if not, I do not require an expensive hotel (but that would be nice) but I do require a good seafood restaurant nearby. Is Greensboro near the ocean or near Charleston, SC? I LOVE Charleston. Do you have She-crab soup in Greensboro?stephenrhinton wrote: »Not actually using a snorkel (yet) ...and no I'm swimming at Gold's Gym ...no instructors and only classes are water aerobics/zoomba type ...I live in Greensboro, NC ...i looked around at other swimming choices and costs are much higher ...We have a very nice competition-grade aquatic center here in the city, but becoming a member is mucho dinero.0 -
Kida_Adeylne wrote: »OMG what a swimsuit. *cough* Sorry, yes. Discussion of goggles invention.
Lolest. I was thinking the same thing about the suit!
I would like to hear Macstraw's thoughts about that item of clothing LOL!
Enlightening observation disasterman. From that, it would certainly appear that goggles in some form were in use long before the 70s?disasterman wrote: »AquaticQuests wrote: »In her book Swim Speed, Sheila Taormina sets out some developments in swimming that she indicates have brought down swimming times over the years! She says this about goggles:Invention of competitive swimming goggles. First introduced in the early 1970s, goggles enhanced a swimmer’s vision in the water. At the 1972 Olympics in Munich, goggles were not allowed. The first Olympics with goggles was in 1976.
Longer training sessions. In addition to enhancing a swimmer’s vision, goggles also impacted training methods. Swimmers could stay in the water longer, thus longer training sessions were possible, positively affecting aerobic capacities and endurance capabilities in swimmers.
That's so interesting and I have always accepted that swim goggles were invented in the 1970's because I heard it somewhere- but there must be a little more to the story. The recent issue of USMS 'Swimmer' magazine, for example, has an article about John Quincy Adams being a regular swimmer in the Potomac and notes that he was often seen with his goggles. And then there's this:
Of course, those look like motorcycle goggles and maybe they were. I guess I just wonder what the origin of this 1970's version is when it's clear that the use of goggles for swimming has a much longer evolution.
Yes, I geek out on this kind of thing.
Perhaps just a novelty among a small group of swimmers way ahead of their time, but not widespread?
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Mac's views on that suit are very simple - for me? HELL no!!!!! Doesn't look like that guy is the most surreptitious smuggler of a budgie.......
As a kid competing in the 70's we never used goggles - some kids started using them the very end of the decade, more so into the beginning of the 80's, but they weren't widespread. Even most of those that used them in practice didn't wear them in races. I would up getting them for high school team practice, but I never raced with them as I never mastered diving with them......0 -
Kida_Adeylne wrote: »OMG what a swimsuit. *cough* Sorry, yes. Discussion of goggles invention.
Wow!!! Yes, cough, cough. Hilarious that this guy stood so proudly for his photo to be taken.0 -
I would up getting them for high school team practice, but I never raced with them as I never mastered diving with them......
Every time I try diving my goggles come off, and I can't practice diving at my regular pool so it was very embarrassing at Master's the other week. Next time we do dives, I'm asking for some tips first.
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Not only ask for tips, ask about the different types of goggles. We didn't have many choices in the dark ages, but there are tons of different types now. I wear ones that sit a little outside my eye sockets, but I imagine they would be no good for starts. I know the ones my kids use sit inside the eye sockets & they usually don't have any issues with starts.....0
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Interesting. Where were you living in the 70s? I only swam 1 year competitively, as a Freshman at a small Midwestern high school in 1973-74, and everyone wore goggles for practice and competition.As a kid competing in the 70's we never used goggles - some kids started using them the very end of the decade, more so into the beginning of the 80's, but they weren't widespread. Even most of those that used them in practice didn't wear them in races. I would up getting them for high school team practice, but I never raced with them as I never mastered diving with them......0 -
In 1973-74 I had just moved from Brooklyn in NYC to the suburbs about an hour north of the City. At that point I was only swimming competitively on a summer rec team & none of us (up to age 18) used them. I swam in high school from 1977-1981, we all had them for practice but some of us didn't use them in races.....0
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I use swimsuit (obviously!), a good hat for long hair, some Speedo goggles I picked up well cheap in Sainsburys, a lap counter and because I'm such a wimp and loathe swimming pool water snotting out of my nose I use a noseclip!0
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I went to Dick's sporting goods today to look at goggles. I'm using cheapie ones that I think were at like a pharmacy when the mood struck me. I'd love to be able to actually look at/compare/try some optical goggles before I buy again. But while the sporting goods store I've seen thus far, still no opticals. Anyone know of a national chain that actually has a good selection of swim gear. (I know of several online, but I want a brick and mortar)0
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stephenrhinton wrote: »I went to Dick's sporting goods today to look at goggles. I'm using cheapie ones that I think were at like a pharmacy when the mood struck me. I'd love to be able to actually look at/compare/try some optical goggles before I buy again. But while the sporting goods store I've seen thus far, still no opticals. Anyone know of a national chain that actually has a good selection of swim gear. (I know of several online, but I want a brick and mortar)
I have found that Sports Authority has a better selection than Dick's for all sorts of swim stuff. I'm going to stop at SA today to get a new pair to replace those *&$%*&#! leaking ones I have right now.0 -
I don't plan on getting an iWatch and even if I did I wouldn't be caught swimming with it. But for those so inclined, this may be of interest for a 15 min dip:
http://youtu.be/zW5CxZioIkk 0
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