Hemp me explain Please

gsp90x
gsp90x Posts: 416 Member
edited November 2024 in Social Groups
So... There is no doubt that this keto thing is working for me in so very many ways. The BF was skeptical at first but after seeing me struggle for so many years trying everything under the sun vs. how dramatically and immediately this has helped me, he's interested.

At the very least he's interested in learning more so he can back me up if anyone challenges me on it. (He's a sweety).

He's also interested perhaps for the health benefits for himself. He is absolutely NOT overweight and sometimes goes under! He's always be religious about eating low fat. He would spend hours taking the fat of the the chicken or meat we were going to have for supper. I would tell him just to take it off after it was cooked but he didn't think that would be healthy enough. Nuf said?

My challenge though, he's listened to the Dr. Attia video in the launch pad as well as the Jason Fong one.

He (we) understand that fat doesn't cause you to be fat. That in keto you burn fat. That carbs contribute to insulin. What he's asked me a few times though, is

If you are not in keto or doing the keto diet, what happens to the fat you eat. Say, if he ate keto on the weekends when we eat most of our meals together. A big concern is fat clogging his arteries. If fat doesn't make you fat, what happens to the fat you eat?

As an aside, he is NOT insulin resistant. CICO seems to work for him.

Some how, based on all the videos I watched, I know this is not true but I don't know how to refute it.

Can someone explain, or direct me to where I can view (share) the answer?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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  • wabmester
    wabmester Posts: 2,748 Member
    Keto works best for those who are insulin resistant. There are athletes who use it to improve endurance, and Attia has a LOT of information about this aspect. E.g.,:
    http://eatingacademy.com/personal/experience-exogenous-ketones

    As far as the heart disease connection, some people do have an increase in LDL with increased saturated fat intake. The only way to know how you react is to do a lipid panel before and after the diet. For those with insulin resistance, most heart health markers improve.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,227 Member
    I would not recommend mixing high-fat/low-carb weekends with high-carb/low-fat weekdays. What you end up getting is basically all the components of the Standard American Diet (SAD), and we all know how well that works for chronic illness.

    When it comes to low-carb, the health benefits come from being consistent. You don't want to do it halfway. A monthly "cheat" day might be ok. Weekly ones are probably not a wise idea (from a long-term health perspective), just switching back and forth on a whim over-and-over? I have a feeling this is how you end up getting all the negatives from each way of eating without any of the positives.
  • wabmester
    wabmester Posts: 2,748 Member
    FIT_Goat wrote: »
    What you end up getting is basically all the components of the Standard American Diet (SAD), and we all know how well that works for chronic illness.

    There may be nothing wrong with the content of the SAD. The problems happen when you're in a constant state of excess caloric intake (and aspects of the SAD enable that for a lot of people).

    In any case, the mechanisms of heart disease aren't as well understood as we like to think. High levels of LDL do tend to lead to plaque formation, but not everybody with plaques gets a heart attack.

    Here's an interesting blog post about non-cholesterol factors in Europe:
    http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2015/03/hba1c-and-familial-hypercholesterolaemia.html

    Take a group of hFH people who have survived a premature heart attack. Match a similar group of hFH people who haven't had a heart attack. How do you tell the difference between the groups? As a lipidologist perhaps you might suspect the LDL cholesterol level? That is exactly the problem in hFH after all... But:

    "There was no difference in total and LDL cholesterol between the two groups. Patients with previous myocardial infarction had significantly higher levels of insulin, insulin resistance...
  • DittoDan
    DittoDan Posts: 1,850 Member
    Sit down with your BF and watch the YouTube video called, "Fat Head" see below.

    I hope this helps,
    Fat Head
    What If We're Wrong about Diabetes? Peter Attia
    First Do No Harm -Full movie with Meryl Streep


  • gsp90x
    gsp90x Posts: 416 Member
    Thanks folks. Great advice. We'll definitely watch the video and we'll keep working at it. But yeah, I agree with not mixing it up. His way seems to be working for him so... we'll work it out :)
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