Talking about carbs...
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Thanks. It felt an awful lot like casting pearls before swine... but there were one or two thoughtful replies that made me feel like it wasn't a complete waste of time.homesweeths wrote: »The thing that amazes me about paleo is the variety and deliciousness of the food. I'm eating way better than I ever did, pre-paleo. I'm enjoying the taste of my food. And I'm feeling better, healthwise, than I have in years.
I never tire of hearing how much better people feel when Paleoing.
I also enjoyed reading your comebacks on the paleo thread on the main forum yesterday. You put the usual smug pricks, who show up in almost all main forum paleo threads, in their place.
Their so called clever efforts were well rewarded, thanks to you.
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i am about 2 days into this and am finding myself pretty hungry, i wonder what i am missing? maybe more veggies? thanks0
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now i am at 120grams of fat and 115g protein, for fats, olive oil coconut oil, chia seeds about an ounce of nuts, butter, eggs, chicken breast today that was all i had and peanut butter- since i hit the 120 fat mark i dont feel so hungry, but i realize i have a nite eating problem.. not based on hunger0
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Women NEED carbs for healthy metabolic and endocrine function which is why low carb doesn't work well, in the long term, for most ladies. Sometimes it can be a helpful approach to bust through a plateau for a few weeks but overall, I'm of the mindset that if you're a woman you should be eating at least 100g (total) of carbs/day and focus on food quality not macros as much
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Women NEED carbs for healthy metabolic and endocrine function which is why low carb doesn't work well, in the long term, for most ladies. Sometimes it can be a helpful approach to bust through a plateau for a few weeks but overall, I'm of the mindset that if you're a woman you should be eating at least 100g (total) of carbs/day and focus on food quality not macros as much
There are many people that won't solve all their issues without dropping carbs and to keep saying that carbs are necessary is untrue (for the human body period) and a disservice to those people. Since severe metabolic disorder is rampant, my experience is often applicable in those situations. The problem with low carb is some of us are struggling because we didn't drop them low enough... what I learned over the last 3 years.
Not everyone is like me either, who can't seem to tolerate any carbs, but if "moderating carbs" is a constant struggle it may not be the best path. I'd happily eat more carbs if I could, but finding my best health is more important.
It would be interesting to know if the amount of carbs that are tolerable relate to where someone starts from. Maybe there's a tipping point where things are just too broken? But I'm also not at all convinced (anymore) that plant foods are needed or even beneficial... I need a Carnivore Paleo Group. And I'd be there all alone.... for awhile. lol
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We have carnivores over at the low carb and keto groups, and some of us are paleo too.... I have seen definite health benefits myself from dropping my carb intake significantly and I hear others have as well.0
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Women NEED carbs for healthy metabolic and endocrine function which is why low carb doesn't work well, in the long term, for most ladies. Sometimes it can be a helpful approach to bust through a plateau for a few weeks but overall, I'm of the mindset that if you're a woman you should be eating at least 100g (total) of carbs/day and focus on food quality not macros as much
The sex hormones are steroid hormones, which are made from cholesterol, making fat the important nutrient, not carbs.
It can be argued that lean, insulin sensitive people in general do better on higher carbohydrate allotments, but the idea that all women "need" carbs is misleading and disingenuous. In fact, one of the more reliable ways to correct metabolic and endocrine issues in women is with a very low carb diet.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »Women NEED carbs for healthy metabolic and endocrine function which is why low carb doesn't work well, in the long term, for most ladies. Sometimes it can be a helpful approach to bust through a plateau for a few weeks but overall, I'm of the mindset that if you're a woman you should be eating at least 100g (total) of carbs/day and focus on food quality not macros as much
The sex hormones are steroid hormones, which are made from cholesterol, making fat the important nutrient, not carbs.
It can be argued that lean, insulin sensitive people in general do better on higher carbohydrate allotments, but the idea that all women "need" carbs is misleading and disingenuous. In fact, one of the more reliable ways to correct metabolic and endocrine issues in women is with a very low carb diet.
Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering about this, as from personal experience, I know that if I eat close to 100g of carbs a day, for two or three days in a row, my cravings ignite again and drive me to distraction. I do much better bouncing around in the zone between 50 and 80g for the most part.0 -
I'm guilty of eating too much fruit and nuts and not enough meats and veggies. Most of my fat comes from nuts though. How do you get more fat without eating nuts? High fat meats?0
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I'm sure cooking veggies with olive oil would do it too- I usually buy the steamable bags of veggies.0
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MrsBailey149 wrote: »I'm guilty of eating too much fruit and nuts and not enough meats and veggies. Most of my fat comes from nuts though. How do you get more fat without eating nuts? High fat meats?
Fatty cuts of meats, cooking and dressing things in oils or ghee/butter (if you do dairy), cheese (if you do dairy), avocados...0 -
Akimajuktuq wrote: »Last time I checked most cities have farmers markets.
I check them frequently because I live in the city. At least I used to check them. I don't anymore because my time is valuable and walking two to three miles to the farmers market only to see the same nonsense that has little to do with what might actually be available at a real farm is a time waster in my opinion. This has been the case in my area during the 30 years that I've been checking out these markets, which is the same band of 'farm' employees that tour the state, going town to town, year after year in the spring and summer months.
Grass fed meats, raw dairy, wild caught fish and hippie eggs are not for sale at the markets near me. Half of the produce sold at these markets is not organic and isn't even grown at the 'farm' that's being represented at the farmers market. The produce is priced below the grocery stores because obviously there's less overhead.
The crown jewels at the famers markets near me are home baked (allegedly) goods like bread, pies, cakes and cookies. Funny thing is they have labels with nutritional info, a corporate looking ingredient list and bar scanners on them. Doesn't matter to me though. They aren't paleo anyway.
When my health starts suffering from shopping at regular old grocery stores and buying mass produced food by run of the mill profiteers, I'll take notice and make whatever adjustments I have to.
Luckily I don't have any metabolic conditions according to the results of my blood tests, biopsies and medical examinations. I understand that, despite me carrying more than 100 lbs. of extra weight for 20 years, not having any doctor diagnosed metabolic conditions is a God-send and provides more leeway when it comes to my paleo food choices.
Akima, I like the idea of recording every penny spent. I've often thought of doing that and I find your example inspiring! I'm sure it would be an eye opener.
I hear what you are saying. One suggestion I might make it to check the Weston A. Price Foundation website. They can really help with finding grassfed meat, raw dairy, etc, whereever you are. It's at least worth a shot. Sometimes it's as easy as getting a phone number to the right person and you could arrange reasonably priced pick up or delivery of fantastic healthy foods.0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »MrsBailey149 wrote: »I'm guilty of eating too much fruit and nuts and not enough meats and veggies. Most of my fat comes from nuts though. How do you get more fat without eating nuts? High fat meats?
Fatty cuts of meats, cooking and dressing things in oils or ghee/butter (if you do dairy), cheese (if you do dairy), avocados...
BP coffee (not doing butter because of AIP, so just add 2TBS coconut oil to my morning cup these days), fat bombs (for me, coconut oil and carob powder, with a little vanilla -- when I'm not doing strict AIP, I'll go back to raw cacao instead of carob). Olives. Olive oil in homemade salad dressing. Vegetables roasted with coconut oil or duck fat. I used to slather steamed vegetables with butter or ghee, but since I'm off dairy at present, I pour really good olive oil over my veggies now. And I eat at least one whole avocado every day.0
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