Not A Lifestyle

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    It is a eating LIFESTYLE for me. The doctors wanted me to start Enbrel injections for my pain. In my mind in my weakened body that was Cancer for sure. A month before my visit to start Enbrel injections I when off most all carbs (<50 grams daily from like almonds, coconut and other whole foods). Pain levels dropped from 7-8 to 2-3 on a 1-10 scale within 30 days and I escaped Enbrel side effects and gained a new life physically and mentally.

    After 40 years of abusing Carbs of all types my life light was growing dim.

    Others may have no diet related health concerns so I do not claim LCHF is for everyone but it is for ME. :)
  • kirkor
    kirkor Posts: 2,530 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    Once I'm at maintenance I'm going Paleo and adding in some legumes and sweet potatoes. I'll let you know how it goes. That's my plan for life!

    You might want to check out the WAPF guidelines for handling legumes. Paleo generally excludes them due to the anti-nutrients in them (lectins, phytates, etc), but following the WAPF guidelines for preparing them can deactivate a fair bit of them for the most part.
    pkroyle wrote: »
    I also forgot to mention....from the book Well Fed....they have a chart that shows any nutrient that you get from grain you CAN get from vegetables. And like a normal amount of vegetables, not if you ate a bucket of them. So you really don't need grains. Also look up "grain brain" and documentaries like "King corn", "food matters" and "forks over knives"....they will change your life! :)

    Oh please not Forks Over Knives. That's such a horrible documentary.

    A far better one is The Perfect Human Diet.

    lol ya I read that sentence and was thinking, "one of these things is not like the others"............. :)

  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    kirkor wrote: »
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    Once I'm at maintenance I'm going Paleo and adding in some legumes and sweet potatoes. I'll let you know how it goes. That's my plan for life!

    You might want to check out the WAPF guidelines for handling legumes. Paleo generally excludes them due to the anti-nutrients in them (lectins, phytates, etc), but following the WAPF guidelines for preparing them can deactivate a fair bit of them for the most part.
    pkroyle wrote: »
    I also forgot to mention....from the book Well Fed....they have a chart that shows any nutrient that you get from grain you CAN get from vegetables. And like a normal amount of vegetables, not if you ate a bucket of them. So you really don't need grains. Also look up "grain brain" and documentaries like "King corn", "food matters" and "forks over knives"....they will change your life! :)

    Oh please not Forks Over Knives. That's such a horrible documentary.

    A far better one is The Perfect Human Diet.

    lol ya I read that sentence and was thinking, "one of these things is not like the others"............. :)

    https://youtu.be/o7coHS27fYU?t=42
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,018 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    kirkor wrote: »
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    Once I'm at maintenance I'm going Paleo and adding in some legumes and sweet potatoes. I'll let you know how it goes. That's my plan for life!

    You might want to check out the WAPF guidelines for handling legumes. Paleo generally excludes them due to the anti-nutrients in them (lectins, phytates, etc), but following the WAPF guidelines for preparing them can deactivate a fair bit of them for the most part.
    pkroyle wrote: »
    I also forgot to mention....from the book Well Fed....they have a chart that shows any nutrient that you get from grain you CAN get from vegetables. And like a normal amount of vegetables, not if you ate a bucket of them. So you really don't need grains. Also look up "grain brain" and documentaries like "King corn", "food matters" and "forks over knives"....they will change your life! :)

    Oh please not Forks Over Knives. That's such a horrible documentary.

    A far better one is The Perfect Human Diet.

    lol ya I read that sentence and was thinking, "one of these things is not like the others"............. :)

    https://youtu.be/o7coHS27fYU?t=42

    LOL!
  • pedidiva
    pedidiva Posts: 199 Member
    Jaycie, why do you not think that this is not a balanced way of eating? Many renown nutritionists do not have a problem with the LCHF lifestyle. You can get the carbs form non-starchy vegetables. The brain functions well on fats.

    Harvard University has come out with a study that states that heart disease does not come from fats, but rather from Carbohydrates, Alan Keye's research (which touted fat as bad) has been disproven.

    High Triglycerides and cholesterol can come form thyroid dysfunction.

    YMMV.

    This is a nice video about low carb

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdFkPxxDG8
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    @Dragonwolf, lol!!
  • _jayciemarie_
    _jayciemarie_ Posts: 574 Member
    pedidiva wrote: »
    Jaycie, why do you not think that this is not a balanced way of eating? Many renown nutritionists do not have a problem with the LCHF lifestyle. You can get the carbs form non-starchy vegetables. The brain functions well on fats.

    Harvard University has come out with a study that states that heart disease does not come from fats, but rather from Carbohydrates, Alan Keye's research (which touted fat as bad) has been disproven.

    High Triglycerides and cholesterol can come form thyroid dysfunction.

    YMMV.

    This is a nice video about low carb

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdFkPxxDG8

    I guess I was saying it isn't a lifestyle, because I do love fruits and vegetables. I mean, I'm from Nebraska where corn is everything. Nothing better than steak, corn on the cob, and watermelon in the summer time. I guess I never really thought that "fruit" or "vegetables" are now going to be considered a "cheat" for me. I understand fitting food into your macros for the day. I've done CICO for nearly 2 years, so I can budget.

    Also, I am in taking saturated fat and not really sure how to reduce it and that does scare me in the long run.
  • greenautumn17
    greenautumn17 Posts: 322 Member
    Twibbly wrote: »
    After 5 days, this is where I was at:

    Down 6.6 pounds
    Stomach is not as bloated
    My digestive system isn't constantly cranky (although it has had its moments)
    My wrists don't hurt
    The constant ringing/itching in my ears is less
    I have more energy (as in, I went for a walk in the park and boxed up another box of books to get rid of yesterday)
    My muscles aren't aching
    I'm not freezing all the time (just part of the time)
    Depression/anxiety is lifting more and more

    I'm on Day 10 now

    Some people do choose to cycle their carbs and allow more for special events and such and stick to low carb the rest of the time.

    Is the ONLY result you're seeing weight loss? Nothing else?

    'cause for me, even if I don't lose any more weight, the benefits are definitely worth sticking to it. I might fall off every once in a while (and have!) but keep coming back because this is the way I feel the best.

    Use the way you feel to determine how you should eat, not government guidelines that were made up to encourage people to use more agricultural products. You can slowly add in more fruits and veggies to determine the level where you maintain your weight without much effort and use THAT as your balanced diet.

    Yes, yes, and yes!!
  • LawMJY
    LawMJY Posts: 42 Member
    @pedidiva that video was useful!
    I want to stay low carb for life, it just works for me and now that I don't feel like I have to eat loads of protein I find it much more enjoyable as well. When I get to maintenance I'll add occasional fruit and wine but hopefully I will never go back to the way I was eating. When you think about it LCHF really is amore natural WOE for humans, I just hope that guidelines will change eventually though I know there will be a lot of resistance to it!
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    Saturated fat is awesome and you shouldn't be looking at reducing it. There is a reason your body stores energy as saturated fat, and that reason isn't because it is harmful. Even all animal fats aren't completely saturated. So, it is practically impossible to get unbalanced with it. You should aim for a balance of saturated fat that represents human body fat. Or, just get all your fats from animal sources and the balance will take care of itself.
  • greenautumn17
    greenautumn17 Posts: 322 Member
    As far as fruits go for me, they are a no-no this early in my transition (almost 2 months this time around). Because I know I will way overindulge on watermelon, cherries and pineapple if I let myself have a little. Maybe by next summer I will have developed the willpower to have a taste! :wink: (Plus I hope to have reached my goal weight by then)
    I could probably live forever never having another potato or sweet potato and I have never cared for cooked carrots! In fact, other than an occasional salad, I could probably do without any veggies on my plate. It is a matter of taste. I don't have a psychological aversion or anything - I just like meat better.
    I wish you good luck with whatever level of LCHF you choose, but know that it is a sustainable lifestyle.
  • wabmester
    wabmester Posts: 2,748 Member
    edited June 2015
    I guess I was saying it isn't a lifestyle, because I do love fruits and vegetables. I mean, I'm from Nebraska where corn is everything. Nothing better than steak, corn on the cob, and watermelon in the summer time. I guess I never really thought that "fruit" or "vegetables" are now going to be considered a "cheat" for me. I understand fitting food into your macros for the day. I've done CICO for nearly 2 years, so I can budget.

    Also, I am in taking saturated fat and not really sure how to reduce it and that does scare me in the long run.

    Most veggies are low carb. I still eat fruits in moderation, especially berries. If you like apples, eat the skin and leave most of the carb core.

    There is an association with saturated fat and high LDL for some people. And there is a link between high LDL and plaque formation. So, if you see your LDL go up, try reducing your saturated fat. Google for foods with high MUFA content.

    (BTW, Volek found that a LCHF diet actually reduces SFA in the blood even with increased SFA intake.)

    But I think the key to remember is that it's really the combination of high carbs and high calories that cause health issues for a lot of people. If you can keep your calorie intake low, that frees you to increase your carb intake. Of course, many people find that increasing their carb intake increases their hunger and calorie intake, so it's a bit of a Catch-22.

  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    pedidiva wrote: »
    Jaycie, why do you not think that this is not a balanced way of eating? Many renown nutritionists do not have a problem with the LCHF lifestyle. You can get the carbs form non-starchy vegetables. The brain functions well on fats.

    Harvard University has come out with a study that states that heart disease does not come from fats, but rather from Carbohydrates, Alan Keye's research (which touted fat as bad) has been disproven.

    High Triglycerides and cholesterol can come form thyroid dysfunction.

    YMMV.

    This is a nice video about low carb

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdFkPxxDG8

    I guess I was saying it isn't a lifestyle, because I do love fruits and vegetables. I mean, I'm from Nebraska where corn is everything. Nothing better than steak, corn on the cob, and watermelon in the summer time. I guess I never really thought that "fruit" or "vegetables" are now going to be considered a "cheat" for me. I understand fitting food into your macros for the day. I've done CICO for nearly 2 years, so I can budget.

    Also, I am in taking saturated fat and not really sure how to reduce it and that does scare me in the long run.

    FYI, corn isn't a vegetable. It's a grain.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,600 Member
    edited June 2015
    wabmester wrote: »
    I guess I was saying it isn't a lifestyle, because I do love fruits and vegetables. I mean, I'm from Nebraska where corn is everything. Nothing better than steak, corn on the cob, and watermelon in the summer time. I guess I never really thought that "fruit" or "vegetables" are now going to be considered a "cheat" for me. I understand fitting food into your macros for the day. I've done CICO for nearly 2 years, so I can budget.

    Also, I am in taking saturated fat and not really sure how to reduce it and that does scare me in the long run.

    Most veggies are low carb. I still eat fruits in moderation, especially berries. If you like apples, eat the skin and leave most of the carb core.

    There is an association with saturated fat and high LDL for some people. And there is a link between high LDL and plaque formation. So, if you see your LDL go up, try reducing your saturated fat. Google for foods with high MUFA content.

    (BTW, Volek found that a LCHF diet actually reduces SFA in the blood even with increased SFA intake.)

    But I think the key to remember is that it's really the combination of high carbs and high calories that cause health issues for a lot of people. If you can keep your calorie intake low, that frees you to increase your carb intake. Of course, many people find that increasing their carb intake increases their hunger and calorie intake, so it's a bit of a Catch-22.

    While it is true that some people are hyper-responders, I still wouldn't jump on that bandwagon without an LDL-P and/or VAP test, first.

    It's already known that LDL as measured by the standard test, goes up on an LCHF diet, but it's due to the fact that the LDL particles switch to Pattern A, which are large and fluffy and similar to HDL. Pattern A LDL particles are not associated with increased CVD risk.

    Additionally, the formula for calculating LDL is known to be off when triglycerides are below 100, artificially inflating the LDL number to begin with.

    @FIT_Goat already mentioned it, but it's worth reiterating -- half of the body's fat stores consist of saturated fatty acids, regardless of diet. That means that even if you ate no fat, whatsoever, if your body is burning body fat, roughly half of that fat will be saturated fats.
  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    Sugar does not like me. So having much of it in my diet throws it outbid balance

    My body does well with fibrous vegetables for carbs. And I eat a small ammount of low carb tortilla shells in a week, fajitas are yummy

    60-80 carbs and around 1800 calories s day. Under my calorie target of course and exercise 4-5 days a week

    115 lbs lost in @ 18 months

    It works long term for me

    I pick food based on total nutrient value, not just carbs or calories alone. B

    It is a great healthy lifestyle !
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