Optimum meal ratios for ketosis?

CoconuttyMummy

I was wondering does having an ideal macro ratio every meal help you get into and remain in ketosis better than just going by daily macros? (whereby you could have a protein heavy dinner and fat heavy lunch or w/e).

And what would be the perfect ketosis meal macro ratio?

Dragonwolf

Unless you're using ketosis for therapeutic reasons and really need it dialed in (and no, vanity pounds don't constitute therapeutic reasons), you're overthinking this.

Take a fatty cut of meat and grill it, roast it, or fry it. Add some non-starchy vegetables dipped or dressed in a cream or oil based dressing. Done.

Everything else is tangential and is typically beyond the diminishing returns of dietary tweaking for ketosis for most people.

If you need a guideline, look at the ratios for your full day and use that as your guide for each meal.

GaleHawkins

Dr. Thomas in his 2012 book about cancer talks about getting blood glucose into the 55-65 range and ketones to 4.0 and staying in that tight range for a period of time. I am wanting to learn if I can even do it. I can get the ketones to 3+ but BG levels are staying 85-95 after 18 hour fasting. I must be converting both protein and fat to glucose?

SnowFlinga

I nail my macros pretty much every day (3% Carbs : 17% Protein : 80% Fat) and keep my calories at least at a 20% deficit off my TDEE. I typically never get my fasting blood ketone levels above 4.0 (usually somewhere in the 3.x range) and my fasting blood glucose (FBG) is usually somewhere between 75-80. I can't imagine what it would take to get my FBG down into the 55-65 range. I'm not sure if it's even possible.