When you realize how dependent society is on sugars
randiewilliams72
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I spent this weekend with some family. Yesterday the 6 of us, all adults between 45-55, piled into the truck to head to the beach. We made a pit stop at a gas station. Everyone piled out of the truck. Except for me. I had made breakfast. Well I offered it. I cooked up for sausage but everyone said they didn't want breakfast. So I made myself some eggs to go with it. I knew we would be on the beach for awhile and I wanted to make sure I ate a good breakfast first. Everyone did pick at the sausage so at least they got some protein. The all walk out with a bag of food. My husband had a dozen donuts, Tom had more donuts, Andrew and Russ both had fruit pies and Laura had twizzlers. I sat in the back just shaking my head. I found it funny and also sad how much we have forgotten what good food is. I am so glad my mindset has changed and that I can resist these temptations now. I know there will come a time when I will indulge. I just hope I can get back on track quickly. Just some thoughts for today.
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Yes I didn't realize how dependent on sugar I was. I have been looking into growing Stevia plants next year.
People dry the leaves and crush them. I would think they would be green though.
Not sure how the stevia we buy in the store gets turned into white powder.0 -
You're right, I was one of those people, the more you learn about the food prioducts the less you want them. The sugar addiction is real, how can people avoid it when it's everywhere!!? Those who can learn and change the way they eat are rare, I see it among family and friends. They treat themselves with sugar without even realizing it. Colorful boxes with poison should be illegal.0
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Yes! Now that the addiction is broken, I can't see how I ever ate most of the stuff I used to eat. (Although, the waiter at the restaurant did tempt me last night with mentions of caramel pecan pie.) Beating the sugar addiction has helped me cut out other things too, like wheat. Now I'm working on artificial sweeteners.
It almost makes me sad now when I see my friends and family eat that stuff. I want to start preaching from the rooftops! Hopefully my progress will start speaking for itself.0 -
A lot of my family is the same way, and it drives me crazy. I'll cook my breakfast and ask if anyone wants anything. They never do. Then, 20 minutes later, we're stopping by Dunkin Donuts for them to get their sugar fix.0
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I am convinced only our progress has a chance of changing minds. Words can do the opposite.
In my case my pain relief from staying in nutritional ketosis (off sugar and grains so my total carbs are under 50 grams daily) is all I need to keep eating for life vs. death. From over 250 to just under 200 is hard to miss and more and more people do mention it that seldom see me.
Perhaps it is just a time thing. I have lost weight before but always had 100%+ regains. Maybe when I do not regain this time more will get into LCHF.
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.0 -
A lot of my family is the same way, and it drives me crazy. I'll cook my breakfast and ask if anyone wants anything. They never do. Then, 20 minutes later, we're stopping by Dunkin Donuts for them to get their sugar fix.
This is totally true. It's so crazy to me. Even before this woe I always felt the need for protein in the morning.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »I am convinced only our progress has a chance of changing minds. Words can do the opposite.
^^^This! Yes. When they're ready, they'll start asking serious questions. And even then, it's on them to stick with it.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
I do believe they are addictive and each person has a different addiction level.
Sort of how alcohol is addictive and poison for some people, but not everyone.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
Just being thin does not mean they are healthy or that carbs are good for them. Have you ever seen the show "Super Size vs Super Skinny"? I would venture to estimate that 90% of the super skinny people on the show are sugar addicted to the point of malnurishment. They might not eat a whole lot of food, but it's almost all sugar or processed carbs. These people are thin, but they're also very unhealthy and on the road to major illness.
There's also the TOFI phenomenon, that is Thin Outside - Fat Inside. Incident measures for TOFI typically find 12-14% of people with a BMI between 20 and 25 to be fat on the inside (where it is most dangerous). That's a little more than 1 in 8 thin people who are really fat.
There's also metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and other related diseases that have links to carb consumption and appear in people who remain thin and never get fat. Actually, some things I've seen suggest that thin people are less lucky than the fat people because they assume everything is fine and that they're not sick inside.
Anyway, being skinny doesn't mean you're immune to the negative effects of carbs. It just means they haven't made you fat, yet.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
Just being thin does not mean they are healthy or that carbs are good for them. Have you ever seen the show "Super Size vs Super Skinny"? I would venture to estimate that 90% of the super skinny people on the show are sugar addicted to the point of malnurishment. They might not eat a whole lot of food, but it's almost all sugar or processed carbs. These people are thin, but they're also very unhealthy and on the road to major illness.
There's also the TOFI phenomenon, that is Thin Outside - Fat Inside. Incident measures for TOFI typically find 12-14% of people with a BMI between 20 and 25 to be fat on the inside (where it is most dangerous). That's a little more than 1 in 8 thin people who are really fat.
There's also metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and other related diseases that have links to carb consumption and appear in people who remain thin and never get fat. Actually, some things I've seen suggest that thin people are less lucky than the fat people because they assume everything is fine and that they're not sick inside.
Anyway, being skinny doesn't mean you're immune to the negative effects of carbs. It just means they haven't made you fat, yet.
This is my best friend. All she ever eats is processed food, sugar crap, or both. Skinny. But always tired and anxious and feeling lousy.
She's started drinking a whole lot more, so she's finally starting to gain weight. We are the same size now, but I guarantee, and would actually bet money for the first time ever, that results of tests would show that I'm super healthy and she has the health of an obese, diabetic. I'm betting she'd be a poster-child for TOFI.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
I do believe they are addictive and each person has a different addiction level.
Sort of how alcohol is addictive and poison for some people, but not everyone.
@pondsbb I am sure carbs are not poison to everyone or even myself initially. For most of my 64 years I have used this approach to things I would like to do but knew they were not in my long term best interest. I tell myself I will get Aids if I am unfaithful to my wife. My medical mind knows that will not happen unless the other person has or is carrying HIV. The results however works out just fine for my marriage.
Many guys would find being faithful to the wife, not smoking or drink to be very restrictive. I do not. Never eating carbs again is in no way restrictive in my view. I get to choose eating for an ugly early death risk or eating to delay death and hope to keep walking and talking until my death that is sure to come some day.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
I do believe they are addictive and each person has a different addiction level.
Sort of how alcohol is addictive and poison for some people, but not everyone.
@pondsbb I am sure carbs are not poison to everyone or even myself initially. For most of my 64 years I have used this approach to things I would like to do but knew they were not in my long term best interest.
Good for you for finding an approach that works for you.
I'm not sure that would work for me as I know vegetables are carbs, and I would never eat just a little poison.
If it is poison I would never touch it.
It might work for a specific item like alcohol. I could live without alcohol ever touching my lips again but vegetables is too wide of a spectrum for me.0 -
I never drank so I guess food with many carbs needs to be treated like alcohol in my case. 0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
Until I forced my mind to see carbohydrates as poison inside my body I could not give carbs up. We humans are not as smart as we think we are. Most 'dumb' animals in the wild will not eat foods harmful to their bodies.
I'm not sure carbs are poison to everyone. I often see these people that can eat anything and everything and are skinny as rails.
I do believe they are addictive and each person has a different addiction level.
Sort of how alcohol is addictive and poison for some people, but not everyone.
@pondsbb I am sure carbs are not poison to everyone or even myself initially. For most of my 64 years I have used this approach to things I would like to do but knew they were not in my long term best interest.
Good for you for finding an approach that works for you.
I'm not sure that would work for me as I know vegetables are carbs, and I would never eat just a little poison.
If it is poison I would never touch it.
It might work for a specific item like alcohol. I could live without alcohol ever touching my lips again but vegetables is too wide of a spectrum for me.
I go by a net carb goal myself and I don't limit my veggies. Lately I haven't been eating as much, but when I started out I ate them throughout the day. I just didn't have starchy ones. Some people don't have issues with more carbs from a vegetable source. I didn't. Days that had more didn't have any different effect on me than days that had none. So it's not necessarily true that you would have to limit veggies.0
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