Ranting about naysayers
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It *is* a multi-purpose phrase. I just find it most useful when I'm trying to find a polite way to say "you're an idiot". I can be empathetic with lots of words! lol0
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When I say it, and I'm a southerner for decades....
It always means I think you are dumb as a rock
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In my experience (primarily with Okies and Missourians), "bless your heart" is usually an expression of empathy whereas "bless her/his heart" (talking to you about someone else) usually means "what an idiot that person is."
Or maybe I'm just hoping people aren't calling me an idiot to my face. Haha...
Have to wonder how much of a variance in usage there is amongst the different southern states!0 -
Yikes, it's so much simpler to be Canadian! I think around here, I usually hear people say "God bless you".0
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A friend of mine from the UK said
Bless his cotton socks!
I about fell out
And promptly said an old southern expression
Well shut the front door....
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I have mastered Advanced Sarcasm, so between tone, body language, and facial expression, there's really no question as to my meaning. When I visit Canada, I will remember that phrase doesn't mean what I think it means, at least up there!
Lol even here in Australia "bless your heart" means something like "oh you poor idiot, good on you for trying" :P0 -
Aussies also say "Bless his/her little cotton socks!" It's said nicely. 0 -
The "blue zones" guy was on NPR yesterday pimping his new book, and he talked about the moai of Okinawa. A life-long social network that had a bigger influence on health and longevity than any aspect of diet:
http://nooga.com/155096/build-a-moai-for-better-relationships-longer-life/
The main factor is that somebody always has your back and checks up on you if you don't show up at the usual hangout, but it's also about the idea of contagious behavior -- the biggest influence on your behaviors, good or bad, are the people you hang out with.
That's why I like to hang out here.
Agreed! Much as I love learning how to insult Australians, I love coming here to cheer each other on even more!!
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KittensMaster wrote: »A friend of mine from the UK said
Bless his cotton socks!
I about fell out
And promptly said an old southern expression
Well shut the front door....
"STFD" is the best. It's the only thing I can say when I'm working around other people that won't get me into trouble. My phrase of choice ends with a U. "Bless your bonnet" was my grandmother's fave. That meant you're being dumb and you've got about 4.5 seconds to get yourself together or there's gonna be a Come to Jesus meeting between your butt and a switch.0 -
lol...nvmomketo will back me up on this, but if a Canadian apologizes to you, it might NOT be an apology
"bless your heart" sounds similar...it all depends on intent...0 -
vixelva100 wrote: »I read a book about sugar addiction and curing yourself if it. I thought it was quite extream to start with before gradually realising it was me. I knew I had a problem with sugar but I thought I would be ok as long as I was aware. I'm not. The book deals with addiction very much like aa with 10 steps, the first is truly accepting you have a problem. If these relatives were addicted to alcohol and you told them they needed to go to aa and they said there was no problem you would accept they were in denial. That is their problem. They have not reached that critical point. If you continue to show a good example may be they will get there.
@vixelva100 that was me last year at age 63. Actually a guy that works with AA reviewed the materials in over a period of about six weeks at church to help us understand the program. The 'Denial' part hit me like a ton of bricks since I was trying to 'wean' off carbs and could not. After I accepted that fact I went off carbs cold turkey nearly a year ago. The first two weeks were hellish but I have been free of carb craving for 10 months.
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ambergem1969 wrote: »lol...nvmomketo will back me up on this, but if a Canadian apologizes to you, it might NOT be an apology
"bless your heart" sounds similar...it all depends on intent...
LOL
Speaking of Australia, my brother was razzed when travelling down there for wearing a "Roots" hat... Popular brand up here that even designed our Olympians' clothes.
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ceciliaslater wrote: »In my experience (primarily with Okies and Missourians), "bless your heart" is usually an expression of empathy whereas "bless her/his heart" (talking to you about someone else) usually means "what an idiot that person is."
Or maybe I'm just hoping people aren't calling me an idiot to my face. Haha...
Have to wonder how much of a variance in usage there is amongst the different southern states!
Perhaps it's an Eastern Seaboard/Appalachia thing where the sarcastic tone prevails? Or maybe yet another Mississippi divide kind of thing? I know in the Southern areas I've been in and heard it (WV, SC, GA, etc), it's generally the veiled "wow, you're a bright one, aren't you?" version.
Of course, I'm the weirdo that can tell what state (not just that they're from the South) a person's from by their accent, because I pay that much attention to that kind of thing...0 -
Dragonwolf wrote: »ceciliaslater wrote: »In my experience (primarily with Okies and Missourians), "bless your heart" is usually an expression of empathy whereas "bless her/his heart" (talking to you about someone else) usually means "what an idiot that person is."
Or maybe I'm just hoping people aren't calling me an idiot to my face. Haha...
Have to wonder how much of a variance in usage there is amongst the different southern states!
Perhaps it's an Eastern Seaboard/Appalachia thing where the sarcastic tone prevails? Or maybe yet another Mississippi divide kind of thing? I know in the Southern areas I've been in and heard it (WV, SC, GA, etc), it's generally the veiled "wow, you're a bright one, aren't you?" version.
Of course, I'm the weirdo that can tell what state (not just that they're from the South) a person's from by their accent, because I pay that much attention to that kind of thing...
@Dragonwolf I would love to test that state theory at some point. I've been told I have almost no accent, and definitely no southern accent, yet I've been raised primarily in Southern States...0 -
I have a southern accent and sweet talk the ladies on the phone whenever possible! It is great when dealing with some from Wisconsin or somewhere like that. Just be sweet and nice, and things go much smoother.
Nice is usually the best way.0 -
KittensMaster wrote: »I have a southern accent and sweet talk the ladies on the phone whenever possible! It is great when dealing with some from Wisconsin or somewhere like that. Just be sweet and nice, and things go much smoother.
Nice is usually the best way.
Bwahaha. One of mom's arguments against me going to UW was "You know they'll make fun of your accent." "Mom, some guys like a southern accent." "Yeah, but yours isn't a southern Belle accent. It's a Texas trash accent."
Can you tell Mom's a Yankee at heart?0 -
KittensMaster wrote: »I have a southern accent and sweet talk the ladies on the phone whenever possible! It is great when dealing with some from Wisconsin or somewhere like that. Just be sweet and nice, and things go much smoother.
Nice is usually the best way.
Bwahaha. One of mom's arguments against me going to UW was "You know they'll make fun of your accent." "Mom, some guys like a southern accent." "Yeah, but yours isn't a southern Belle accent. It's a Texas trash accent."
Can you tell Mom's a Yankee at heart?
Most Northerners can't tell the difference, so you're good!
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KittensMaster wrote: »I have a southern accent and sweet talk the ladies on the phone whenever possible! It is great when dealing with some from Wisconsin or somewhere like that. Just be sweet and nice, and things go much smoother.
Nice is usually the best way.
Bwahaha. One of mom's arguments against me going to UW was "You know they'll make fun of your accent." "Mom, some guys like a southern accent." "Yeah, but yours isn't a southern Belle accent. It's a Texas trash accent."
Can you tell Mom's a Yankee at heart?
Texas accent sounds a bit like Notth Carolina to me. One of our plant locations is in Tx. I talked with a materials coordinator there often, she was a sweet talker too
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In diction lessons as a kid, I learned to get rid of all trace of accent. I can turn it on, if necessary. Hubby says the level of Southern in an "I'm fine" is a sure sign as to how sick I am. When I'm sick, I forget to turn it off.
I'm positive my "bless your heart" sounds decidedly Southern. And sarcastic.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »We have been taught there is a pill for every health issue that we may develop. The masses buy it.
And that's exactly the way the medical profession, the pharmaceutical profession, and the health insurance industry at large want us to believe! Is it any wonder that the majority of people out there have never heard of the ketogenic diet and are taught to fear fat? They certainly don't want us eating better and eating such a way which truly nurishes our bodies improving our healtj. No, they would rather keep their hands in our pockets, keep us as sick and unhealthy as possible so we die right on time, according to their schedule! I have become very disgusted and disenchanted with these big players!0 -
andsion="Gnulie;33768742"]The doc I work for shares office space with an endocrinologist. I overheard someone say "I can't wait to get my insulin pump then I can eat whatever I want". Alrighty then![/quote]
One of my ex boyfriends that I keep in touch with was recently diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and It's already affecting his vision! A few weeks ago I had him over for a visit and we had dinner and caught up and I tried to give him some hints, tips and tricks about how to eat better. But he said to me, " I don't want to be the guy who has to say no." I didn't really understand what he meant so he elaborated: " I don't want to be the guy who has to say no to everything that tastes good especially at family gatherings and during holidays. I want to be able to have s real coke and treat myself once in awhile." I was sitting there in disbelief listening to him as he said this to me and all the while I'm thinking to myself, "Do you not care about your vision at all?" I guess if / when he goes blind, maybe then he'll start caring. I pity him because he is a relatively young guy, in his mid to late 30's.0 -
andsion="Gnulie;33768742"]The doc I work for shares office space with an endocrinologist. I overheard someone say "I can't wait to get my insulin pump then I can eat whatever I want". Alrighty then!
One of my ex boyfriends that I keep in touch with was recently diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and It's already affecting his vision! A few weeks ago I had him over for a visit and we had dinner and caught up and I tried to give him some hints, tips and tricks about how to eat better. But he said to me, " I don't want to be the guy who has to say no." I didn't really understand what he meant so he elaborated: " I don't want to be the guy who has to say no to everything that tastes good especially at family gatherings and during holidays. I want to be able to have s real coke and treat myself once in awhile." I was sitting there in disbelief listening to him as he said this to me and all the while I'm thinking to myself, "Do you not care about your vision at all?" I guess if / when he goes blind, maybe then he'll start caring. I pity him because he is a relatively young guy, in his mid to late 30's.[/quote]
I really think it's the focus on the deprivation. For some people the idea of saying no equals immediately reduced quality of life and let's face it, they are sick and suffering so they can't imagine living an even worse life without their yummy "treats". I think those are words that identify a bad relationship with food and suggests that life consists of the good times while being "treated" and then the time in between...0 -
At 64 I no longer have a problem saying NO to anyone or anything that gets between me any my goal to be walking, talking and remembering all the way up to my 110+ birthday. There are times when being simple minded on critical issues is a plus.
Where I make it to just 65, 95 or 125 I am through listening to failures UNLESS they are begging me to not follow their path. Daily I talk to people deep into suicidal eating as I was a year ago but no more.0 -
Interesting that you mentioned not wanting to be the guy who says no...
After church today there was a soup and sandwich luncheon that my daughter wanted to attend. Of course, there was nothing I could eat there, so I just sipped an iced tea. It was a bit uncomfortable being the only one without a plate, but I just let people think I wasn't hungry.
Oh, and I seldom have sodas (even diet ones) because they tend to upset my stomach, but just yesterday I decided to try about 8 oz of a Cherry Coke Zero (I shared a 16oz bottle with my daughter). Was I impressed! Good taste, and no stomachache later. If (and I stress the IF) I feel like a soda in the future, I guess that will be the one I go for.0 -
Most people don't pay attention to what others have (or don't have) on their plates. I don't ever worry about turning down carbage though.0
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I get grief from some that know I am low carb
If I ride after work I snarf down a 250 calorie Snickers bar. People used to ask how that was on my diet.
I tell them I'm gonna burn off about 1800 in the next couple hours.
Those that don't know/understand/comprehend the intricacies of food as fuel when needed look at me weird. Or they used to.
Being yourself is a powerful liberating thing.
Kind of like riding down the road in my convertible with my daughter singing our favorite song along with the radio.... Not caring about anybody else. Just us having our moment.0
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