On Zero Carbs, mayo, little cheese, butter okay?

jennybird99

i am trying for a zero carb couple of days. Not quite getting there, though. I had delicious meatloaf today, but as binder it had a little cornmeal and a little bbq sauce in it, so...
Yesterday, I think the carbs came from mayo with my egg and blue cheese dressing with the wings.
I saw several of you trying this woe in June. Are you still with it? Is it possible to cycle from VLC to Zero and back?
My major problem is I drink alcohol a couple of days a week, and "treat" myself too often.

totaloblivia

Why do you want to zero carb? I'm not sure what the advantages of zero carb are over very low carb. But no doubt someone will be along soon to explain.

FIT_Goat

Mayo shouldn't have any carbs. The blue cheese dressing will. How much is very brand dependent. If you're not eating much, it's not a whole lot. Eggs are fine. They have carbs.

The cornmeal and BBQ sauce isn't good though. Use an egg or two for the binder (if you need it).

As for whether or not it's possible to cycle, anything is possible. Will you see benefits from zero carb by cycling like that? I doubt it will be any different than if you just remained very low carb.

glossbones

You can use Parmesan cheese in your meatballs or meatloaf instead of meals and flours. Oh, or crushed pork rinds!

To oversimplify, the ZC WoE is: get all your food from animal sources (muscle meat / offal / bone broth / dairy / eggs) and then you don't really need to count the carbs. Shellfish, eggs, cream, and plenty of cheeses have carbs but if that's all you're getting it's not critical to count them. If you try to add in anything other than some spices, though, you're back to Math City.

I agree with FIT_Goat. Sure, you can cycle, but if you don't maintain it exclusively for enough time that you can see the specific benefits, I'm not sure what the point would be. If you're doing it because some days you'll want to succumb to cravings for almond flour pizza crust or cauliflower mashed fauxtatoes then you may not be cut out for ZC. If you can stick with it long enough, though, those cravings often fade.

Dragonwolf

totaloblivia wrote: »

Why do you want to zero carb? I'm not sure what the advantages of zero carb are over very low carb. But no doubt someone will be along soon to explain.

The advantages are that it's simple (does it come from the animal kingdom? If yes, then you're good, if no, then don't eat it), it gets rid of even the carbs/sugars from vegetables (which some people still react to), gets rid of the toxins in vegetables (phytates, salicylates, etc, which some people react to), and can "reset" cravings that have crept in. Also, for some reason, the difference between zero carb and very low carb is often as stark as the difference between very low carb and moderate to high carb.

jennybird99 wrote: »

i am trying for a zero carb couple of days. Not quite getting there, though. I had delicious meatloaf today, but as binder it had a little cornmeal and a little bbq sauce in it, so...
Yesterday, I think the carbs came from mayo with my egg and blue cheese dressing with the wings.
I saw several of you trying this woe in June. Are you still with it? Is it possible to cycle from VLC to Zero and back?
My major problem is I drink alcohol a couple of days a week, and "treat" myself too often.

I've been carnivore since mid-March and am still with it, though the past month has been less than stellar due to some major stress in my life (and I'm paying for it as a result, with no shift in the scale the last time it should have). I'm back on it again, because it's been that much of a success for me.

I don't sweat alcohol, but I don't drink it that often, either (once or twice a month, maybe).

Strictly speaking, mayo isn't kosher, because it's made with a plant based oil. If you make your own and make it with an animal-based oil, then it's more kosher. However, if you tolerate the plant based oil (and I still recommend making your own anyway), then it might be okay. Basically the same goes for blue cheese dressing (which is generally made largely of soybean oil).

As Goat said, there's not much point in going between the two. There is such a difference between zero carb and VLC that switching back and forth (especially on a regular basis) quickly diminishes the benefit. Besides, you risk carb creep that way.

If you're going to go zero carb, make a commitment to do it for two weeks, no exceptions. Then assess where you're at then and determine whether it's for you or not.

KarlaYP

Zero carb for approximately 45 days helped me feel physically better than I have felt in years (much less Fibromyalgia pain!)! When I began to add back some veggies I did it one at a time and have been able to identify some culprits that cause unwanted symptoms (that I would have never dreamed to be food related). I am still testing some of the vegetables that like about once a week finding out what doesn't negatively affect me. I recommend thirty days for any change in your woe. Gives your body time to fully adjust.