I've got another convert!
MimiOfTheLusciousLawn
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Last night I saw a friend I haven't talked to in a month. In that time, she's begun a modified version of lchf (a way that works for her) and has lost 12#. She's my third convert... today 3, tomorrow the world! Bwahahaha!! 
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Woohoo! Awesome!!!0
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I have not yet done so but as more people come up with cancer, diabetes, heart disease I am getting more questions. I am in a pocket that is against educated changes when it comes to diet.0
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I keep joking to my friends... Come to the dark side... we have bacon and cheese.0
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There is an argument going on in a medical site I am in… several cancer survivors, me included, promote a healthy diet FIRST..as children, and during, and after any chemo or treatment…but there are the 2-3 screaming science dweebs ( of which I am one most days) saying "your diets" don't cure anything… thus proving my point we have NO RESPECT in this country to understand a good diet is connected to good health!!
drugs, chemo, radiation are the only answer in their world.
the truth is cancer is no more under control….still at 3% 'cure' rate …..after 50 years and billions donated to the ACS? I won't give them a dime… they refuse any studies but old school approved ways for research. They use Lance Armstrong as the poster boy for chemo ( his is one of 2-4% cancers helped by it)
Good nutrition is allowed to be "complementary' medicine only…not saying you CAN cure yourself with food…but not bothering to even support the body's functions to help yourself?
Some diabetics have the mentality will chow down on carb foods and "just take more insulin..tha't's what it is for", think a pill will save them..then when they have to deal with toxic drugs to survive they scoff at nutrition still.
at least there is more of a toehold on nutrition in the last few years.
Converting one person at a time is a great start…"think global and low carb local"
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MimiOfTheLusciousLawn wrote: »Last night I saw a friend I haven't talked to in a month. In that time, she's begun a modified version of lchf (a way that works for her) and has lost 12#. She's my third convert... today 3, tomorrow the world! Bwahahaha!!
LOL You should be getting a signing fee.I keep joking to my friends... Come to the dark side... we have bacon and cheese.
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KETOGENICGURL wrote: »There is an argument going on in a medical site I am in… several cancer survivors, me included, promote a healthy diet FIRST..as children, and during, and after any chemo or treatment…but there are the 2-3 screaming science dweebs ( of which I am one most days) saying "your diets" don't cure anything… thus proving my point we have NO RESPECT in this country to understand a good diet is connected to good health!!
drugs, chemo, radiation are the only answer in their world.
the truth is cancer is no more under control….still at 3% 'cure' rate …..after 50 years and billions donated to the ACS? I won't give them a dime… they refuse any studies but old school approved ways for research. They use Lance Armstrong as the poster boy for chemo ( his is one of 2-4% cancers helped by it)
Good nutrition is allowed to be "complementary' medicine only…not saying you CAN cure yourself with food…but not bothering to even support the body's functions to help yourself?
Some diabetics have the mentality will chow down on carb foods and "just take more insulin..tha't's what it is for", think a pill will save them..then when they have to deal with toxic drugs to survive they scoff at nutrition still.
at least there is more of a toehold on nutrition in the last few years.
Converting one person at a time is a great start…"think global and low carb local"
One Andrew Scarborough is living proof (literally) that the idea that diet has no effect on cancer outcome is complete and total bull. Two years after being diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer, he's not only cancer-free, but the scar tissue is even healing, thanks to a carnivorous ketogenic diet.0 -
Cancer survivor here as well. Big part of why I am now lc. Really has little to do with losing weight for me, though losing 3-4lbs would be a welcome side effect. A healthy body mentally and physically is the goal. Never had a single oncologist or dermatologist ever mention diet or lifestyle one way or the other.
I wish I could convert my mother. We talked about lc last weekend. I told her how much fuller I feel with this new woe, and that I am never hungry. And that I found some desserts that really help with cravings (chocolate and fat bombs). She nodded and said “I know, I know, but I don’t eat because I am hungry I eat because I am an emotional eater.” End of conversation. Breaks my heart because she is on so many meds, many for issues she could prevent through lifestyle changes. I haven’t given up trying to convert her.
Nice work @MimiOfTheLusciousLawn ! The world is yours to conquer!0 -
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Dragonwolf wrote: »KETOGENICGURL wrote: »There is an argument going on in a medical site I am in… several cancer survivors, me included, promote a healthy diet FIRST..as children, and during, and after any chemo or treatment…but there are the 2-3 screaming science dweebs ( of which I am one most days) saying "your diets" don't cure anything… thus proving my point we have NO RESPECT in this country to understand a good diet is connected to good health!!
drugs, chemo, radiation are the only answer in their world.
the truth is cancer is no more under control….still at 3% 'cure' rate …..after 50 years and billions donated to the ACS? I won't give them a dime… they refuse any studies but old school approved ways for research. They use Lance Armstrong as the poster boy for chemo ( his is one of 2-4% cancers helped by it)
Good nutrition is allowed to be "complementary' medicine only…not saying you CAN cure yourself with food…but not bothering to even support the body's functions to help yourself?
Some diabetics have the mentality will chow down on carb foods and "just take more insulin..tha't's what it is for", think a pill will save them..then when they have to deal with toxic drugs to survive they scoff at nutrition still.
at least there is more of a toehold on nutrition in the last few years.
Converting one person at a time is a great start…"think global and low carb local"
One Andrew Scarborough is living proof (literally) that the idea that diet has no effect on cancer outcome is complete and total bull. Two years after being diagnosed with inoperable brain cancer, he's not only cancer-free, but the scar tissue is even healing, thanks to a carnivorous ketogenic diet.
Awesome story. Thanks @Dragonwolf
zerocarbzen.com/2015/05/31/healing-brain-cancer-with-a-zero-carb-ketogenic-diet-by-andrew-scarborough/
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ShootingStar72 wrote: »I wish I could convert my mother. We talked about lc last weekend. I told her how much fuller I feel with this new woe, and that I am never hungry. And that I fo nd some desserts that really help with cravicomeschocolate and fat bombs). She nodded and said “I know, I know, but I don’t eat because I am hungry I eat because I am an emotional eater.” End of conversation. Breaks my heart because she is on so many meds, many for issues she could prevent through lifestyle changes. I haven’t given up trying to convert her.
I hope she comes over to the dark side for your sake. My mom dying of liver cancer and cirrhosis are really what drove me to this woe, although it took me a few years.0 -
We had a friend with cancer but went into a weight loss nose dive and could not pull out of so I never got to talk with him about eating. I did learn about BioBran that is to boost our natural immunity that is used by some medical centers in Asia and Europe that I have taken for about six months to make sure it was safe before I would recommend it to a family member. It is sold in the USA by the maker Daiwa Health Development under the name Peak Immune 4. Google BioBran for protocols that are on the web. The Japanese company has a website with a lot of info under many different tabs. biobran.org/0
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ShootingStar72 wrote: »Cancer survivor here as well. Big part of why I am now lc. Really has little to do with losing weight for me, though losing 3-4lbs would be a welcome side effect. A healthy body mentally and physically is the goal. Never had a single oncologist or dermatologist ever mention diet or lifestyle one way or the other.
I wish I could convert my mother. We talked about lc last weekend. I told her how much fuller I feel with this new woe, and that I am never hungry. And that I found some desserts that really help with cravings (chocolate and fat bombs). She nodded and said “I know, I know, but I don’t eat because I am hungry I eat because I am an emotional eater.” End of conversation. Breaks my heart because she is on so many meds, many for issues she could prevent through lifestyle changes. I haven’t given up trying to convert her.
Nice work @MimiOfTheLusciousLawn ! The world is yours to conquer!
Congrats on beating cancer! You are a true warrior!
I was an emotional eater as well, and it was definitely tough at first learning how to deal with stuff without food. It's a process, and it's not easy, but in the end, food (i.e., carbs) never really gave me long-term comfort anyway, so it had to go. Now most days there's nothing a good scented epsom salt bath and a good book won't cure. Chris Pratt said something recently about how food always made him happy before, but it was a temporary happy. Now that he's done the work and lost the weight he's happy all the time, not just when he's eating. That's what I strive for every day and what keeps me doing this woe.
Kudos for not giving up on your mother! Your example will surely inspire her.
@MimiOfTheLusciousLawn - way to go! We'll get 'em all in the end!0 -
@GaleHawkins Thank you for posting a link to Andrew’s story. Wow, that’s amazing! There is a 6 year old boy who was in my son’s kindergarten class last year just diagnosed with brain cancer. He had a tumor removed in July, and is just starting 6-8 months of chemo/radiation. I will point out this research to his mother. I read up about BioBran - thanks for that link too! I would be interested to hear of any trials in prevention of t-cell lymphoma. I’ll keep researching.
@annalisbeth74 Nice to hear you use past tense as in ”was an emotional eater.” What a wonder accomplishment to have moved past that and into a healthier wol! If it was not so darn hot in California I would be into Epson baths as well. I’ll just have to look forward to it in the coming months. Being happy all the time is a wonderful thing to strive for every day. Nice work!
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When I microwave bacon at work there are always people admiring my diet choice
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There were so many funny comments in this Thread there were too many to reply too! thank you all for the laughs! And bacon, who doesn't love bacon?! I love bacon anything! Chocolate covered bacon, bacon topped donuts, bacon and eggs, bacon Toffee, bacon ice cream, I can go on forever!0
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Oooh, what a great idea! Why didn't I think to do that?KittensMaster wrote: »When I microwave bacon at work there are always people admiring my diet choice
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There were so many funny comments in this Thread there were too many to reply too! thank you all for the laughs! And bacon, who doesn't love bacon?! I love bacon anything! Chocolate covered bacon, bacon topped donuts, bacon and eggs, bacon Toffee, bacon ice cream, I can go on forever!
A friend of mine made chocolate, chocolate chip, cherry, cookies with candied bacon on top for a friend of hers. They actually turned out really good.0 -
KETOGENICGURL wrote: »Some diabetics have the mentality will chow down on carb foods and "just take more insulin..tha't's what it is for", think a pill will save them..then when they have to deal with toxic drugs to survive they scoff at nutrition still.
Lol - my stepfather thinks of insulin as an "antidote". Cheesecake? Sure - let me get a shot first.
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There were so many funny comments in this Thread there were too many to reply too! thank you all for the laughs! And bacon, who doesn't love bacon?! I love bacon anything! Chocolate covered bacon, bacon topped donuts, bacon and eggs, bacon Toffee, bacon ice cream, I can go on forever!Dragonwolf wrote: »There were so many funny comments in this Thread there were too many to reply too! thank you all for the laughs! And bacon, who doesn't love bacon?! I love bacon anything! Chocolate covered bacon, bacon topped donuts, bacon and eggs, bacon Toffee, bacon ice cream, I can go on forever!
A friend of mine made chocolate, chocolate chip, cherry, cookies with candied bacon on top for a friend of hers. They actually turned out really good.
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@ShootingStar72 below is a link to other links that may lead you to other links. There is a youtube video of a cancer conference in England and the speaker is a German doctor and he had graphs of how BioBran improved the outcome of chemotherapy and I will look for it later.
I find talking with families that I have personally known for years can be very touchy even with my OD degree and the ability to follow medical research. While I read stories about Stage 4 cancer patients making a full recovery the fact remains Preventing Cancer Is Worth a Ton of Cancer Treatments.
While I now stay in nutritional ketosis for pain management at my age I would do keep doing it just lower my risk of diabetes, cancer, Alzheimer's, etc related to high glucose, high triglycerides, low HLD and low Vitamin D3 levels in my case. We are all different but I do think we can all learn the diet that gives us the best health. I hope the kid with cancer gets cured.
https://google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS611US612&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=biobran%20test%20results%20with%20cancer%20germany0 -
KETOGENICGURL wrote: »Some diabetics have the mentality will chow down on carb foods and "just take more insulin..tha't's what it is for", think a pill will save them..then when they have to deal with toxic drugs to survive they scoff at nutrition still.
Lol - my stepfather thinks of insulin as an "antidote". Cheesecake? Sure - let me get a shot first.
That's what the ADA teaches. Cover your carbs. They're after the most compliance they can get with
the least inconvenience to the patient.
When I was first diagnosed they mentioned the side effects but it was talked about lightly.
It was something that took a long time to develop.
I'm guessing they didn't want to scare us off. 32 years ago it was take this pill and don't worry
too much about it.
Well looking back, & taking many many pills those side effects did catch up with me.
I'm not saying I'm blameless but I sure could have been better educated, particularly
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@GaleHawkins Thanks for the links! I hope over this holiday weekend to have time to read through. I agree talking to others, including family can be very touchy. I typically do not talk about woe or wol to others unless the topic comes up on their end, or they are lamenting about a health problem. But I drop it if no interest is shown. So many people I would like to convert! But then again I was not ready a year ago for this woe. All in due time
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Let's face it, the ADA can't very well say that lowering insulin need and presence in the body leads to a healthier, leaner body. They might have to admit that consumption of carbs could have something to with poor health and obesity if they did that.0
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So true.
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