Resistant Starch and beans?
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fastforlife1 wrote: »I just found this on La Vida Low Carb: "One of my Keto Clarity experts Dr. William Davis said people on a ketogenic diet can get an adequate amount of indigestible fibers to feed their gut flora while maintaining a proper therapeutic level of nutritional ketosis doing the things he shared in that except from my book above. Dr. Rosedale noted in my Keto Clarity podcast interview with him that it’s unnecessary to resort to resistant starch as has become in vogue lately to feed the microbiome. The fiber content of non-starchy vegetables provide a smorgasbord of food to feed the gut bugs without the insulin spike that accompanies such an approach. While it is indeed resistant, upwards of half of the carbohydrate content still impacts the metabolism raising blood sugar and insulin levels–making it less-than-ideal for a ketogenic dieter to be consuming. Instead, opt for the fibrous low-carb veggies to get the benefits of feeding the microbiota without the harmful blood sugar and insulin response."
That is my diet
High fiber veggies and meat.
I used to think meat was the key but an adequate amount of veggies is key for me to get. I easily get protein since I like it.
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Just had to Google "resistant starch" because before this post I hadn't heard of it. I would like to know if anyone has tried adding more to their diet and have noticed positive results in regards to blood sugar readings.0
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I'm curious (not trolling), how do vegans do LC. I eat meat so it's foreign to me.
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gaelicstorm26 wrote: »Just had to Google "resistant starch" because before this post I hadn't heard of it. I would like to know if anyone has tried adding more to their diet and have noticed positive results in regards to blood sugar readings.
I can only say my bg#s have come down reducing carbs.
I not willing to add carbs to see if they go down further, or even stay the same.
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KenSmith108 wrote: »I'm curious (not trolling), how do vegans do LC. I eat meat so it's foreign to me.
Low carb vegans are few and far between, and what I've seen suggest that it's still higher carb than most of us here do, but it boils down to a fair bit of soy and some nuts.Hi all,
Just got a new book called "The End of Diabetes" by Joel Furham, M.D. He claims that lchf is dangerous due to too much animal fats and protein. He advocates what he calls Resistant Starch in the form of beans and nuts.
What do you all think?
Frankly, I think Furhman's a jerk who resorts to ad hominem attacks and attempts at character assassination whenever he's challenged. Case and point, his responses to Chris Masterjohn regarding the health and longevity of the Inuit (Furhman also has at least one article dedicated to
Also, both Furhman and Campbell seem to think that "low animal products" equates to "no animal products."
Also, as others have pointed out, his primary source is the China Study, which has been debunked numerous times. His website appears to have numerous citations per article, but when you actually follow them, they're nearly all to other articles he's written. I followed a few once (on his diseaseproof site) and never did find the original sources/studies backing his claims. The things he does cite that aren't his own stuff either back the strawmen he's built (see Atkins/Paleo claim below) or are only tangentially related to the claims he's making (and that's not even getting into the validity of the studies, which, if you've been around this group for any length of time, you'll know that the vast majority of the nutritional studies are fatally flawed to the point of being invalid).
He also claims Atkins and Paleo are "low carb, high protein" diets, which they are most certainly not. Atkins is LCHF, and Paleo's macronutrient ratios are completely individualized.
But what about the testimonials that his diet works? That's simple -- anything other than SAD is an improvement. Anything that encourages whole foods is a vast improvement. It's also why vegan and vegetarian and Mediterranean and fruitarian and Paleo and carnivore all have pretty much the same amount of improvement across the board. The question then becomes -- of the people who stay on a given diet for years, who retains those health benefits, who at least stay level, and whose health declines?0 -
KenSmith108 wrote: »I'm curious (not trolling), how do vegans do LC. I eat meat so it's foreign to me.
r/vegetarianketo has some threads where people do it as vegans. I thought there was a whole subreddit for it, but I can't find it anymore. It's probably not easy, but people manage it. Lots and lots of plant oils and high fiber veggies (I would guess).0 -
The question then becomes -- of the people who stay on a given diet for years, who retains those health benefits, who at least stay level, and whose health declines?[/quote]Dragonwolf wrote: »
Now that would be an interesting study.
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I think it would be pretty hard to stick with Furham's diet.0
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