High Triglycerides on Ketotic Diet?
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Oh, and make sure you get those iodine and selenium levels back... I was treating my iodine under medical direction, and now am having to majorly dial those numbers back because it raised that level way high, and too much iodine in susceptible people can cause hypothyroidism to flip and turn auto-immune, even to Hashimoto's in some folks, so I'll be reducing and maybe stopping my iodine while increasing my Rx thyroid meds... It's a crazy balance.0
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If you read the book, "Cholesterol Clarity", you will learn that during the pendency of a Keto diet that your lipids will look bad at first. Then after you lose the weight and settle down (after 6 months at goal weight) you will have great lipid numbers ~ without the use of medicine.
Secondly, and more importantly: Your doc is probably not up to speed on Statins. I guarantee if you were to read the above mentioned book, you WOULD NOT go on statins! They are a HORRIBLE-for-your-health drug. The side effects are worse than the cure. And it doesn't cure anything, but eating low carb will.
I beg you to NOT go on statins. Change your doctor! Even if you don't read the book, at least google it...
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Keto / The Recipe Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
Current weight: 194.9, 119 pounds down, 16 to go. 13.75 months on diet
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Dan, this is almost to a "T" exactly what has happened to my cholesterol bloodwork. I'm even more excited for my library to get this book in for me!!
My HDL has gone up, my trigs have gone down, and since I'm still losing weight, my LDL has jumped way up. And the last time my doc expressed concern, I told her once I was maintaining for over 6 months, I would consider medication if things were still out of control in a way that pointed to dangerous.KnitOrMiss wrote: »Make sure they test your full panel of thyroid stuff, too. High trigs are a HUGE sign of your thyroid needing attention. My trigs cut almost in half in a few months of getting on thyroid meds and cut further with going keto, so I'm inclined to think your thyroid needs attention, even if it doesn't show on the standard tests.
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If you are actively losing weight, that LDL number is useless. If your ratio between HDL and trigs is improving, disregard total and LDL. I'm currently waiting on my library to get the book "Cholesterol Clarity" so I can explain more scientifically.
Here is one section in "Cholesterol Clarity" (by J. Moore & Eric Westman) that talks about this:
ch. 14: Nine Reasons Why Cholesterol Levels Can Go Up
1. Hypothyroidism
Overweight people often talk about having a “messed-up thyroid.” The thyroid is responsible for so many bodily functions, including cholesterol levels in the blood, so it’s an easy scapegoat. When thyroid function is low (aka hypothyroidism), cholesterol tends to increase. What’s going on with the thyroid when this happens?
The thyroid hormone known as T3 tells the LDL receptors in your body to get rid of the excess LDL in the blood by pushing it into the cells, where it is used for a variety of purposes. Unfortunately, when your T3 levels are low, this process slows down, leaving LDL cholesterol floating aimlessly through your bloodstream.
I spoke with Paul Jaminet, author of The Perfect Health Diet and one of this book’s experts, about this to gain further insight into what is happening. He advises getting a full thyroid panel for anyone with high cholesterol. But he also warns that the standard ranges on most lab reports are not very reliable. Here are two excellent books on thyroid health: Datis Kharrazian’s Why Do I Still Have Thyroid Symptoms When My Lab Tests Are Normal? (ThyroidBook.com) and Janie Bowthorpe’s Stop the Thyroid Madness: A Patient Revolution against Decades of Inferior Thyroid Treatment (StopTheThyroidMadness.com). I’ve interviewed both of these authors on The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show podcast in episodes 382 and 383.
Sometimes hypothyroidism doesn’t manifest itself until you make changes in your diet. So if your cholesterol suddenly skyrockets after beginning a low-carb, high-fat or Paleo diet, get your full thyroid panel checked. In addition, make sure you are getting adequate amounts of iodine (found primarily in seaweed and kelp).
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This makes SOOOOOO much sense, @camtosh . My T3 was what was acting up on my most recent tests, and my LDL has been jumping - the "floating aimlessly" bit sounds about like what's happening here.... And I can personally attest that the "standard ranges" on these tests are crap. I had thyroid problems for nearly a decade before it showed up on a test. They doctors can track back and see it now...
Be careful of seaweed, though, if you suffer headaches. It's on one of the many lists for me to avoid as I'm working to uncover the triggers for these newly developed migraines....0 -
Thanks to all of you. Between your posts and some research it appears to be thyroid. I did not originally mention it as did not know connection. But the panel showed low thyroid which she is running more tests on. Low thyroid leads to high trigs - not clear yet why.
So need to figure out how to deal with thyroid to get trig down. Looks like to get thyroid fixed you need to reduce fat consumption - which is great for my ketotic diet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't panic. Remember that your high triglycerides may, or may not, be caused by your thyroid condition. I've never seen any convincing evidence that you can cure conditions like Hashimoto's, but hypothyroidism is relatively easy to treat. It takes a few months, at the very least, of eating differently to show an effect on your blood lipids. You might want to sort out how much thyroid hormone you need to take, take it for a few months, and then look at your triglycerides again. Consult an endocrinologist, too, if you can.0 -
lithezebra wrote: »Thanks to all of you. Between your posts and some research it appears to be thyroid. I did not originally mention it as did not know connection. But the panel showed low thyroid which she is running more tests on. Low thyroid leads to high trigs - not clear yet why.
So need to figure out how to deal with thyroid to get trig down. Looks like to get thyroid fixed you need to reduce fat consumption - which is great for my ketotic diet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't panic. Remember that your high triglycerides may, or may not, be caused by your thyroid condition. I've never seen any convincing evidence that you can cure conditions like Hashimoto's, but hypothyroidism is relatively easy to treat. It takes a few months, at the very least, of eating differently to show an effect on your blood lipids. You might want to sort out how much thyroid hormone you need to take, take it for a few months, and then look at your triglycerides again. Consult an endocrinologist, too, if you can.
@lithezebra this is an article about Hashimoto that may be of interest to some. In point 2. she mentions Wobenzym that I just started taking to see if it will cut pain and cholesterol. I learned about it being used in many cancer treatments outside of the USA. It is made in Germany and has been in use for 40 years. While I just started on it last week I am taking 40 tablets a day to see if I get any side effects before I get others in the family heavy into to it. 3 tablets 3x daily is the basic usage rate. So far so good at the 40 rate but most state it can take 4 or more weeks before many see results. This is my first involvement with enzyme therapy I think.
thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/using-enzymes-to-overcome-hashimotos0
