Black SOYbean brownies, oh MY!

Sabine_Stroehm

I'm a huge fan of black soybeans. For many reasons: their nutrient profile, their taste, their phytoestrogens.
I've made blacken brownies before. This morning on the treadmill I was wondering if black SOYbean brownies would work.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread14056.html

http://lowcarbyum.com/black-soy-bean-fudge-brownies-gluten-free/

http://sweeterthancandi.blogspot.com/2011/06/low-carb-black-soybean-mocha-fudge.html

I MUST make these! This could be menopausal heaven!!

ladipoet

Are you aware that eating unfermented soy in any form is the largest contributor to "hot flashes" in menopausal women? Research has discovered that in undeveloped nations where women do not or are unable to consume products which have unfermented soy in them, the women from those countries do not experience "hot flashes" of any kind like we do in connection with menopause.

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/soy/magic-bean/

lithezebra

I don't know about soybean brownies, but I must try black soybeans. My carb limit can tolerate a half cup.

Sabine_Stroehm

ladipoet wrote: »

Are you aware that eating unfermented soy in any form is the largest contributor to "hot flashes" in menopausal women? Research has discovered that in undeveloped nations where women do not or are unable to consume products which have unfermented soy in them, the women from those countries do not experience "hot flashes" of any kind like we do in connection with menopause.

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/soy/magic-bean/

I've read that blogs and what not that suggest that soy is thought to be a factor. Never that it's the "largest contributor", no. Usually one reads that soy HELPS with hotflashes.

http://www.webmd.com/menopause/news/20120409/soy-supplements-can-cool-hot-flashes-study

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/153/8/790.long

Some have mixed reviews.

http://www.nps.org.au/publications/health-professional/health-news-evidence/2014/phytoestrogens-menopause


Many ASIAN countries have no word for hot flash, others don't really experience them, while eating lots of soy.
Most menopausal women in the U.S. have major hot flashes. Most don't eat soy.

I aim to eat MORE phytoestrogens.
I have soy in some form probably twice a week. I'm in the middle of menopause. No real hot flashes to speak of.

Thanks for your link. I'll stick with what I'm doing as it seems to be working well.
Fooducate rates them well. Non-GMO
http://www.fooducate.com/app#!page=product&id=7EFCA542-E107-11DF-A102-FEFD45A4D471

And with respect to the Weston Price claims about incomplete proteins and what not in your link (I'm otherwise generally a Price fan):

http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=80

thanks though, always good to look out for others.

lithezebra

That is a great ratio of fiber to sugar, ie 7:1.

Sabine_Stroehm

lithezebra wrote: »

That is a great ratio of fiber to sugar, ie 7:1.

The whole thing: protein/carbs/fiber/sugar/fats is pretty good (as is the potassium). Especially for brownies lol.

Black beans are tasty. Black soybeans are even tastier. Can't wait to make it.

Dragonwolf

I'm going to stay out of this debate, but happened across an article you might be interested in: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1480510/

lithezebra

Nice article, Dragonwolf.

Sabine_Stroehm

Dragonwolf wrote: »

I'm going to stay out of this debate, but happened across an article you might be interested in: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1480510/

Thanks Dragonwolf. We definitely don't know much about soy. Not compared to other plants. Perhaps we should consider it the same way we consider processed meats...

ladipoet

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

ladipoet wrote: »

Many ASIAN countries have no word for hot flash, others don't really experience them, while eating lots of soy.

Eating fermented soy has vast healthy benefits for the body (hence why many Asian cultures have such good health). No so with unfermented soy which I won't touch; however, I will eat fermented soy.

ladipoet wrote: »

Most menopausal women in the U.S. have major hot flashes. Most don't eat soy.

Actually, they do. Unfermented soy is in virtually every processed food product you buy from the store. I know because I always check nutrition labels. Also I suggest you read the following chapter:

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/women/every-woman-needs-to-read-this-chapter-now/

You might find it interesting and enlightening.

camtosh

Well, here in Japan, I can't avoid soy. It is in everything. I went through menopause and came out the other side with mild hot flashes here and there, but that was long before I started keto/lchf.
I just asked my Japanese coworker, who is also through it, and she says that yes, Japanese women get hot flashes. Soy is not avoided, unless the woman has breast cancer or is at risk, then she is told to avoid it. Not sure if that advice is based on overseas research or Japanese research.

But hey! Here is a recent pubmed article that says soy isoflavines help reduce tumors in rats: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25984609
(Might have been sponsored by the company making the probiotic drink...)

I tried a natto, egg and bacon omelet for breakfast this morning, hoping to up my intake of Vit K2!

edit to add: Jimmy M's LLVLC podcast has this talk by a hormone and fertility doc that touches on estrogen -- the doc recommends HRT after menopause. fwiw
1030: Dr. Michael Fox – 2015 Low-Carb Cruise Lecture
http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/13337/1030-dr-michael-fox-2015-low-carb-cruise-lecture/

(no jokes were made about Back to the Future)

lithezebra

I tried the black soybeans last night! They're delicious. I'm going to try some recipes with them.

Sabine_Stroehm

I finally made these. QUITE tasty. I added walnuts and topped it with a little peanut butter.

esaucier17

I just bought and used these black soybeans in my chili. They are so good! I have a recipe to try the brownies too....can't wait to see how they turn out.

lithezebra

I've been putting black soybeans in this Polish stew thing I make, and they are absolutely delicious. It breaks the monotony of eating so much meat and veg.

ladipoet

camtosh wrote: »

I tried a natto, egg and bacon omelet for breakfast this morning, hoping to up my intake of Vit K2!

I've heard of Natto. By the way, how was it? This is one of the few fermented soy products that I do actually want to try along with Tempeh and see if I can learn to acquire a taste for it basely solely on the fact that it is the highest source of Vitamin K in the entire world! lol

Sabine_Stroehm

ladipoet wrote: »

camtosh wrote: »

I tried a natto, egg and bacon omelet for breakfast this morning, hoping to up my intake of Vit K2!

I've heard of Natto. By the way, how was it? This is one of the few fermented soy products that I do actually want to try along with Tempeh and see if I can learn to acquire a taste for it basely solely on the fact that it is the highest source of Vitamin K in the entire world! lol

Natty feels and tastes a bit like baked beans. I like it with eggs and bacon.