The Climate Agenda Behind the Bacon Scare

lithezebra

Forty nine dollars, or half price - pffft! You can raise your own crickets.

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

I love this group. Nowhere else in my life can I share cricket recipes.

camtosh

Actually, my 80-something mother-in-law once told me about how, as a child in Niigata, she and her siblings were sent out into the rice fields with nets to scoop up crickets for the family's dinner table. Nowadays, the soy-sauce boiled ones are still available in some markets: http://jonellepatrick.me/2013/04/25/ill-take-a-pound-of-the-cricket-snacks-please/

KarlaYP

Nope, no bugs for me, but I'm enjoying the thread! You guys rock!!

glossbones

I would LOVE to eat bugs if they were readily available in my area and the quality was assured! (says the girl who eats pork even though she can't find pastured pigs anywhere...)

GaleHawkins

It would be much more than $49 if I had to catch the crickets.

Dragonwolf

lithezebra wrote: »

Forty nine dollars, or half price - pffft! You can raise your own crickets.

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

I love this group. Nowhere else in my life can I share cricket recipes.

I have a thing about raising crickets, mainly because they can live outside of the enclosure, posing a risk of a cricket invasion of your house/property. I've heard some nasty horror stories, too. Plus, they smell and are noisy.

I've raised Dubia roaches before, though. They're really easy, especially if you're not in a tropical area (where they can live outside). Here in Ohio, once winter hits, they die off if they escape. They also don't fly and can't climb smooth surfaces, so they're not likely to escape, and if they do, they won't get far. I'm not sure about eating them, though. They're edible, but....they're roaches. And crunchy, chitinous suckers.

Lillith32

Dragonwolf wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

Forty nine dollars, or half price - pffft! You can raise your own crickets.

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

I love this group. Nowhere else in my life can I share cricket recipes.

I have a thing about raising crickets, mainly because they can live outside of the enclosure, posing a risk of a cricket invasion of your house/property. I've heard some nasty horror stories, too. Plus, they smell and are noisy.

I've raised Dubia roaches before, though. They're really easy, especially if you're not in a tropical area (where they can live outside). Here in Ohio, once winter hits, they die off if they escape. They also don't fly and can't climb smooth surfaces, so they're not likely to escape, and if they do, they won't get far. I'm not sure about eating them, though. They're edible, but....they're roaches. And crunchy, chitinous suckers.

Yikes! I think I'll wait for that cricket meal to go down in price and eat that. Insects in general creep me out, but I'll gladly eat them in powdered form.

Sunny_Bunny_

Dragonwolf wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

Forty nine dollars, or half price - pffft! You can raise your own crickets.

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

I love this group. Nowhere else in my life can I share cricket recipes.

I have a thing about raising crickets, mainly because they can live outside of the enclosure, posing a risk of a cricket invasion of your house/property. I've heard some nasty horror stories, too. Plus, they smell and are noisy.

I've raised Dubia roaches before, though. They're really easy, especially if you're not in a tropical area (where they can live outside). Here in Ohio, once winter hits, they die off if they escape. They also don't fly and can't climb smooth surfaces, so they're not likely to escape, and if they do, they won't get far. I'm not sure about eating them, though. They're edible, but....they're roaches. And crunchy, chitinous suckers.

Ewwwwwwwww

wtskinner

lithezebra wrote: »

I haven't read the article, but I've been assuming for some time that meat and animal source foods are going to become increasingly expensive commodities, as population increases, and the need to get the most value from agricultural land becomes more critical.

This will ultimately make it more difficult for those of us who are insulin resistant. Meat is already more expensive than eating processed crap and grain products. Having meat available certainly provides a decent amount of food choices to those who have metabolic challenges.

lithezebra

wtskinner wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

I haven't read the article, but I've been assuming for some time that meat and animal source foods are going to become increasingly expensive commodities, as population increases, and the need to get the most value from agricultural land becomes more critical.

This will ultimately make it more difficult for those of us who are insulin resistant. Meat is already more expensive than eating processed crap and grain products. Having meat available certainly provides a decent amount of food choices to those who have metabolic challenges.

Yes, eating meat is not solely a matter of personal preference. I don't think I'll be annoying any vegetarians in this group by saying that it's clear that a vegetarian diet is likely to be low in some essential nutrients and that a vegan diet is worse. For people who need a low carb diet, I don't see how anyone could do it as a vegan without using supplements, since even the most protein rich plant based foods are still about 50% carbohydrate.

I'm perfectly happy to eat farmed fish, to help the planet. I don't want to give up daily meat.

Lillith32

lithezebra wrote: »

I'm perfectly happy to eat farmed fish, to help the planet. I don't want to give up daily meat.

Farmed fish is problematic for the same reason big meat operations are problematic. The problem is no one is screaming about it loudly enough yet.

tishball

oh I am so lucky living where I do, grass fed beef, and pork, phew. Our cancer society were careful to state it was processed foods, in LARGE quantities that were the cause of elevated risk of colon cancer. So if you want to eat meat the less process it goes through the better, ie home cured hams, fresh beef, or dried, it seems to be the added nitrates that are the evil things.

wtskinner

There are definitely people griping about the ills of farmed fish, however, I will happily continue my carnivorous ways given no better choices.

lithezebra

I view fish farmed in the US, Canada, or Europe as the lesser of evils, compared to a global fisheries collapse. I won't buy fish from Asia or South America.

GaleHawkins

Lillith32 wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

I'm perfectly happy to eat farmed fish, to help the planet. I don't want to give up daily meat.

Farmed fish is problematic for the same reason big meat operations are problematic. The problem is no one is screaming about it loudly enough yet.

purezing.com/living/food_articles/living_articles_7salmon.htm

I had read something about the dangers of farm raised fish and found the above link for what it is worth.

Clip of the article.

Farmed Salmon:

have seven times the levels of PCB’s as wild salmon

have 30 times the number of sea lice

are fed chemicals to give them color

are fed pellets of chicken feces, corn meal, soy, genetically modified canola oil and other fish containing concentrations of toxins

are administered antibiotics at higher levels than any other livestock

have less omega 3’s due to lack of wild diet

are crowed into small areas inhibiting movement, and causing disease

lithezebra

Apparently, Chilean farmed salmon is very good. There are no risk free foods, and fish, even farmed, is a good choice. I like fish better than beef and chicken. Plus, it's delicious in a cream based fish stew.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/why-farmed-salmon-is-becoming-a-viable-alternative-to-wild-caught/2013/09/23/aaff33ca-1cbf-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html

nvmomketo

Dragonwolf wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

Forty nine dollars, or half price - pffft! You can raise your own crickets.

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

I love this group. Nowhere else in my life can I share cricket recipes.

I have a thing about raising crickets, mainly because they can live outside of the enclosure, posing a risk of a cricket invasion of your house/property. I've heard some nasty horror stories, too. Plus, they smell and are noisy.

I've raised Dubia roaches before, though. They're really easy, especially if you're not in a tropical area (where they can live outside). Here in Ohio, once winter hits, they die off if they escape. They also don't fly and can't climb smooth surfaces, so they're not likely to escape, and if they do, they won't get far. I'm not sure about eating them, though. They're edible, but....they're roaches. And crunchy, chitinous suckers.

*shudder*
I have this mental picture of the crickets all over my hose an slowly creeping closer... Sort of like the old (goofy) horror film, Frogs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzl1RkBxNsY

Lillith32 wrote: »

lithezebra wrote: »

I'm perfectly happy to eat farmed fish, to help the planet. I don't want to give up daily meat.

Farmed fish is problematic for the same reason big meat operations are problematic. The problem is no one is screaming about it loudly enough yet.

I think it's partially because fish aren't cute. No big brown eyes with long lashes to bat at us.

macchiatto

This thread was most enlightening.

I have not eaten crickets but during my adventures in Asia I did eat fried worms and bee larva (or at least, that's how my Chinese friends described them to me. It's possible something got lost in translation), among other things. No crickets but when I once freaked out about cockroaches in the classroom, one of my students laughed and said his grandmother used to snack on them when she was working in the fields.

camtosh

OMG, "Frogs" stars Sam Elliott! without a mustache and cowboy hat! #swoon