Interesting TED talk on improving brain neuron growth

SamandaIndia
SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
edited November 27 in Social Groups
Looks at impact of foods, exercise and some other factors on growing new brain cells in adults. Net result exercise is good, so are intermitent fasting, calorie reduction, crunchy texture foods, and essential fatty acids. Saturated fat not good.
Worth a listen. Love to hear your thoughts. Looks like we are on the right track for healthy brains.

https://www.ted.com/talks/sandrine_thuret_you_can_grow_new_brain_cells_here_s_how?language=en

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    That was a thought provoking 11 minutes. I would like to know how they determine saturated fat damages our ability to grow new brain cells in the hippocampus.
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,021 Member
    I'm bookmarking it for when the kids will hush long enough for me to watch. :wink:
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    The saturated fats as a negative surprised me too. My mood has never been better.... I wonder if I just have enough positives that that one negative is... Negated?
  • krazyforyou
    krazyforyou Posts: 1,428 Member
    I'm sorry to tell you that your human body does not regenerate brain tissue of any kind. Once lost it is gone forever.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I'm sorry to tell you that your human body does not regenerate brain tissue of any kind. Once lost it is gone forever.

    I don't completely agree. No one would ever recover from strokes or brain injuries then. I think there is some regeneration. Not as much as in other parts of the body, but some.

    Jmo
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    edited January 2016
    I'm sorry to tell you that your human body does not regenerate brain tissue of any kind. Once lost it is gone forever.

    @krazyforyou today we know medically speaking some brain tissue can regenerate apparently.

    https://ted.com/talks/sandrine_thuret_you_can_grow_new_brain_cells_here_s_how?language=en was posted above so you may want to watch it. In the past brain cell regeneration was questionable.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    Scientists Discover Addition of New Brain Cells in Highest Brain Area [1999]

    https://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/99/q4/1014-brain.htm
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=cz-3WDdqbj0

    Bob this is 52 minutes long but is very interesting to me about the research and application about how the human brain works and the design is already being put into applications of software code.

    @Bob314159 the link you shared is super info. This kind of stuff never gets press very fast for sure.
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    edited January 2016
    Thanks Bob. Great to see a scientific paper on the topics. Thanks for sharing. Now to view Gale's video. 8 mins in and he has barely started so one for later for me.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    Pure co-incidence - but my daughter was over yesterday with a book something like "The origins of life"- I'll try to get the title and I opened it to a page on neuron destruction - too technical for me. but it may have had more info n neuron adaption, re-purposing.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    @SamandaIndia the TED talk that I posted goes into detail about the neocortex design and how it works. This is the guy that developed the Palm Pilot before he moved into neurology to learn how to build a computer that mimics the human brain. It has a lot of info about how the brain works but may not be of interest to most people. :)

    At 10 minutes and beyond he gets more into how the neocortex works and stores info.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    [off topic] And I still use a Palm PIlot, I have an app on it that's better than anything I've seen for IOS. I think this is my 6th Palm, I keep buying them on eBay to replace scratched or broken screens.
    @SamandaIndia the TED talk that I posted goes into detail about the neocortex design and how it works. This is the guy that developed the Palm Pilot before he moved into neurology to learn how to build a computer that mimics the human brain. It has a lot of info about how the brain works but may not be of interest to most people. :)

    At 10 minutes and beyond he gets more into how the neocortex works and stores info.

  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    While I know there will be little general interest in my above post on this subject I found a better source to see/read than the TED talk source.

    theregister.co.uk/2014/03/29/hawkins_ai_feature/

    On page 4 is a clear 25 minute video (nice at full screen) of what was showing on screen in the TED talk that I struggled to see clearly.

    Bob the Palm Pilot was the first PDA I ever owned and I remember taking it apart to replace the battery.

    On this subject I think as more is learned about how we use the neocortex the better we will understand how things stored in the neocortex may impact weight gain/loss and how we retrain it.

    My response to a homemade lemon icebox pie today is very different than it was two years ago. Now when I put food in my mouth my brain is computing a very different outcome as to how I respond today compared to two years ago.

    I expect we will find most of our cravings related to info we had stored in our neocortex. Surely there are many implications how this all impacts every area of our lives. Learning today there is nothing static about our minds and that they are always change gives me hope. :)
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    While I know there will be little general interest in my above post on this subject I found a better source to see/read than the TED talk source.

    theregister.co.uk/2014/03/29/hawkins_ai_feature/

    On page 4 is a clear 25 minute video (nice at full screen) of what was showing on screen in the TED talk that I struggled to see clearly.

    Bob the Palm Pilot was the first PDA I ever owned and I remember taking it apart to replace the battery.

    On this subject I think as more is learned about how we use the neocortex the better we will understand how things stored in the neocortex may impact weight gain/loss and how we retrain it.

    My response to a homemade lemon icebox pie today is very different than it was two years ago. Now when I put food in my mouth my brain is computing a very different outcome as to how I respond today compared to two years ago.

    I expect we will find most of our cravings related to info we had stored in our neocortex. Surely there are many implications how this all impacts every area of our lives. Learning today there is nothing static about our minds and that they are always change gives me hope. :)

    Very interesting. I feel like I've "reprogrammed" my brain as far as how I respond to food also. At the very beginning of my Keto journey, I equated my sugar addiction to a drug-like addiction and since that day, I've always viewed sweets as a non-food and completely off limits. I've never had a slip up or given in because I haven't craved my former kryptonite at all. I started viewing all of the foods that don't fit my Keto plan as non-foods, pretty much the same way I see dog food. I can sit at a table loaded with sweets and breads and not be the slightest bit bothered by them or want any of it. Just like I would never consider eating from a dog food bowl that might be in my view.
    It's really amazing! And I think that concentrating on everything that is available to me and seeing those things as non-foods and never sitting there feeling sad about not getting to eat something was the key to my reprogramming.
  • Bob314159
    Bob314159 Posts: 1,178 Member
    re my previous post on a book

    The Vital Question by Nick Lane

    I only read part of one page discussing neuron loss

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Vital-Question-Why-Life/dp/1781250367
  • SamandaIndia
    SamandaIndia Posts: 1,577 Member
    While I know there will be little general interest in my above post on this subject I found a better source to see/read than the TED talk source.

    theregister.co.uk/2014/03/29/hawkins_ai_feature/

    On page 4 is a clear 25 minute video (nice at full screen) of what was showing on screen in the TED talk that I struggled to see clearly.

    Bob the Palm Pilot was the first PDA I ever owned and I remember taking it apart to replace the battery.

    On this subject I think as more is learned about how we use the neocortex the better we will understand how things stored in the neocortex may impact weight gain/loss and how we retrain it.

    My response to a homemade lemon icebox pie today is very different than it was two years ago. Now when I put food in my mouth my brain is computing a very different outcome as to how I respond today compared to two years ago.

    I expect we will find most of our cravings related to info we had stored in our neocortex. Surely there are many implications how this all impacts every area of our lives. Learning today there is nothing static about our minds and that they are always change gives me hope. :)

    Very interesting. I feel like I've "reprogrammed" my brain as far as how I respond to food also. At the very beginning of my Keto journey, I equated my sugar addiction to a drug-like addiction and since that day, I've always viewed sweets as a non-food and completely off limits. I've never had a slip up or given in because I haven't craved my former kryptonite at all. I started viewing all of the foods that don't fit my Keto plan as non-foods, pretty much the same way I see dog food. I can sit at a table loaded with sweets and breads and not be the slightest bit bothered by them or want any of it. Just like I would never consider eating from a dog food bowl that might be in my view.
    It's really amazing! And I think that concentrating on everything that is available to me and seeing those things as non-foods and never sitting there feeling sad about not getting to eat something was the key to my reprogramming.

    Great attitude shifts. I see a lot of bakery goods now as almost like the kids plastic toy versions, not food! Still working on the smell though, that says food. :)
  • KarlaYP
    KarlaYP Posts: 4,436 Member
    I've had the same sort of experience with my relationship with food as @Sunny_Bunny_. I've cut birthday cake (did this twice last May for my sister's birthdays!) without tasting a bit! I see carbs as a poison, for me! They make me hurt! So yes, the way I look at food has changed drastically from they way I used to be! I don't see it ever changing back either!
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    Bob314159 wrote: »
    re my previous post on a book

    The Vital Question by Nick Lane

    I only read part of one page discussing neuron loss

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Vital-Question-Why-Life/dp/1781250367

    Bob that book sounds very interesting indeed. It was actually my reading about Eukaryotes evolution thoughts that lead me to Jeff Hawkins work in biology and brain. Sounds like Nick Lane is really into Eukaryotes. In short eukaryotes are the kinds of cells we have that contain one or more mitochondria in each cell.

    Since Metformin is often mentioned I will post a link about, Off-patent generic drug Metformin prevents cancer cells from using their mitochondria to grow and spread throughout the body.

    news-medical.net/news/20111202/Researchers-identify-cancer-cell-mitochondria-as-Achilles-heel-of-tumor-growth.aspx

    Actually I thought cancer was not fueled by mitochondria based on the Warburg Effect view but now it is back to the drawing board for me as to ways to try and prevent cancer. :(
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    While I know there will be little general interest in my above post on this subject I found a better source to see/read than the TED talk source.

    theregister.co.uk/2014/03/29/hawkins_ai_feature/

    On page 4 is a clear 25 minute video (nice at full screen) of what was showing on screen in the TED talk that I struggled to see clearly.

    Bob the Palm Pilot was the first PDA I ever owned and I remember taking it apart to replace the battery.

    On this subject I think as more is learned about how we use the neocortex the better we will understand how things stored in the neocortex may impact weight gain/loss and how we retrain it.

    My response to a homemade lemon icebox pie today is very different than it was two years ago. Now when I put food in my mouth my brain is computing a very different outcome as to how I respond today compared to two years ago.

    I expect we will find most of our cravings related to info we had stored in our neocortex. Surely there are many implications how this all impacts every area of our lives. Learning today there is nothing static about our minds and that they are always change gives me hope. :)

    Very interesting. I feel like I've "reprogrammed" my brain as far as how I respond to food also. At the very beginning of my Keto journey, I equated my sugar addiction to a drug-like addiction and since that day, I've always viewed sweets as a non-food and completely off limits. I've never had a slip up or given in because I haven't craved my former kryptonite at all. I started viewing all of the foods that don't fit my Keto plan as non-foods, pretty much the same way I see dog food. I can sit at a table loaded with sweets and breads and not be the slightest bit bothered by them or want any of it. Just like I would never consider eating from a dog food bowl that might be in my view.
    It's really amazing! And I think that concentrating on everything that is available to me and seeing those things as non-foods and never sitting there feeling sad about not getting to eat something was the key to my reprogramming.

    Great attitude shifts. I see a lot of bakery goods now as almost like the kids plastic toy versions, not food! Still working on the smell though, that says food. :)

    Recently my daughter was baking brownies and I enjoyed the smell very much but had no urge to eat any. In my reconditioning of my brain I strongly associated carbs and death. This is a trick I have used avoid different types of unwanted behaviour for 50+ years.

    The fact that brain neuron growth is possible later in life is exciting.
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