Dairy elimination did nothing, but reintroduction may have....

DianaElena76
DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
This may be completely unrelated to dairy, but I can't help but notice that something is off after having gone off dairy for a little over two weeks with no noticeable impact and then adding it back in. Suddenly I am bloated, crampy, and mildly constipated (sorry for TMI, but, you know, it's relevant). My weight went up a couple pounds, too, which normally isn't concerning, but it's taking longer to come back down than the daily fluctuations usually do. Is it possible that it's the reintroduction of dairy? I can't think of anything else that's changed (but I am pretty forgetful too). But how could taking it away do nothing and then I suddenly have trouble when I bring it back? Oh, please tell me I don't have to give up cheese and heavy cream forever.....

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  • wabmester
    wabmester Posts: 2,748 Member
    edited January 2016
    Cheese is pretty high in sodium, so that'll affect water retention. Personally, I ignore the day-to-day weight fluctuations, but they're usually water-based. Try adding the dairy back for at least a couple weeks so the water effects even out. Remember: 4 day lag between sodium intake and excretion, so you need at least 4 days to reestablish equilibrium.
  • DianaElena76
    DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
    Hmm, thanks for the info. Now that you mention it, I've also increased my sodium intake the past few days due to brain fog and headaches, so maybe it's not the dairy after all but the sodium.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    The bloated, etc. feelings honestly could have been subtle before, then gone away without you noticing, only to be back now. We tend to notice "bad" things immediately whereas the "good" things don't get noticed as readily, just by human nature, as I'm sure you know.

    Yes, dairy can trigger weight gain in folks sensitive to it. As someone wiser than me once said, "We're the only species that consumes the milk of another - which is meant to grow calves from babies to full grown cows/bulls, and yet we expect it not to trigger massive growth in us??"

    But sodium can play in, too... So it's a case of tracking to see if you can isolate the changes, IMO.
  • gsp90x
    gsp90x Posts: 416 Member
    KnitOrMiss wrote: »
    The bloated, etc. feelings honestly could have been subtle before, then gone away without you noticing, only to be back now. We tend to notice "bad" things immediately whereas the "good" things don't get noticed as readily, just by human nature, as I'm sure you know.

    This was my thought as well. You take out dairy. The next day you don't feel "bad" but you don't notice. Your new normal slowly gets to a place where you're feeling better but you don't notice it because it feels good. Not "wow" good. Just not "bad". Now you reintroduce the dairy and the old "normal" comes back. That was my experience with many things.
  • DianaElena76
    DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
    I had that thought too. Dear, oh dear..... I'm not eating as much dairy as I was previously, but I've still added it back in. Maybe I'll try another round of elimination.... next month. :)
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Remember, too, that they types of dairy matter. Some are heavier in casein (milk, cream cheese, cream, etc.), whereas others, like butter/ghee have most of that removed. So some dairies may be okay, and some others may not. You'll probably want to eliminate, then go back and add things in solo one at a time to see what is okay, and what's not.

    Like heavy cream, then stop it and add hard cheese, and blah blah. It may be a cumulative effect, too. Like maybe you have cream one day, then cream and hard cheese the next, and the second day is harder, but day three with just hard cheese but no cream is okay, too. That's what I've had to do with my food triggers re: my migraines...
  • DianaElena76
    DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
    TOO MUCH WORK! LOL :smiley:
  • Foamroller
    Foamroller Posts: 1,041 Member
    On r/keto board dairy is a known issue for plateaus. If that's a calorie issue or that some types of dairy stimulates more insulin than others, I don't know. Just seen it been tossed around as a possible thing. I also think that SOME people are more sensitive to SOME types of foods. No one solution fits all.
  • DianaElena76
    DianaElena76 Posts: 1,241 Member
    Thank you for weighing in. I am cutting back again on the dairy.