New Zealand warns against low carb, paleo, and IF
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I saw that article. Not sure of the agenda.
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While most people here agree that the data does not support saturated fats being harmful. And, some people here don't believe the fruit and vegetable recommendations are based on sound science. And some believe that vegetable oils are inflammatory and harmful. And, there are a few of us who believe that calories are not something that you need to pay attention to. None of these things are required to be a part of this.
How many of us started believing that bacon grease was bad for our heart? How many of us though "healthy fats" meant canola oil? I know I did. We don't need to agree on those things to be in agreement that the recommended amounts of carbs (50%+) in the current popular diets is too high and probably bad for health or weight loss.0 -
I think an explanation is warranted here. About a week before this post the group was, sort of, attacked for our woe. When what I perceived to be a negative comment came up on this post I allowed my passion for keto/lchf to over ride my thoughts on the comment! I truly apologise for making anyone feel unwelcome or discouraged from participation in the group here! I support all levels of low carb, and know that no one way works for all! I never meant to come across as such, and I am sorry it seemed that way!
I've spent days thinking about this thread, and the feelings I hurt with my comments! I'm not that kind of person! I don't intentionally hurt people like that, and I've felt bad for doing so!! I ask for forgiveness from anyone I may have ever hurt with my comments!!
I love this woe, and always will!0 -
I think an explanation is warranted here. About a week before this post the group was, sort of, attacked for our woe. When what I perceived to be a negative comment came up on this post I allowed my passion for keto/lchf to over ride my thoughts on the comment! I truly apologise for making anyone feel unwelcome or discouraged from participation in the group here! I support all levels of low carb, and know that no one way works for all! I never meant to come across as such, and I am sorry it seemed that way!
I've spent days thinking about this thread, and the feelings I hurt with my comments! I'm not that kind of person! I don't intentionally hurt people like that, and I've felt bad for doing so!! I ask for forgiveness from anyone I may have ever hurt with my comments!!
I love this woe, and always will!
I personally understood what you were meaning and how what you were responding to seemed negative. And I also tend to want to put on my red cape and defend LCHF whenever duty calls.
I really think it was a simple misunderstanding and that's what I was hoping to expose with my own responses regarding the tension. I don't think anything truly negative was intended by anyone. Just at first glance, kinda seemed that way.
I believe that all of us that read the forum regularly know you to be very supportive and passionate about this lifestyle. I certainly knew you never meant to seem discouraging or unwelcoming.
Discussing things in this manner puts us at a slight disadvantage since we don't get tone and body language and things that help us to interpret the full meaning of someone's words.
My abundant use of emojis and LOL are my attempts to insert some hint of demeanor when I might sound rough or my sarcasm might not be detected. LOL
See...
And dude, I honestly hate using LOL so much! Winkies!0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »My abundant use of emojis and LOL are my attempts to insert some hint of demeanor when I might sound rough or my sarcasm might not be detected. LOL
I hate how much I use smilies and Lol, but its the only way I can convey "tone" too! And "cheers" to indicate no hard feelings!
No worries anyone Its just a forum. I have gotten too "comfortable" with these forums being like regular social "chit-chat" so I dont think too much about my comments, and sometimes that is not a good thing. A good reminder to me that this is not the same as a social life, and you all wonderful people are not *really* friends or co-workers . And my passion for LCHF is not on your level! So being casual about it is probably not going to be received too well.
Cheers (LOL )
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »My abundant use of emojis and LOL are my attempts to insert some hint of demeanor when I might sound rough or my sarcasm might not be detected. LOL
I hate how much I use smilies and Lol, but its the only way I can convey "tone" too! And "cheers" to indicate no hard feelings!
No worries anyone Its just a forum. I have gotten too "comfortable" with these forums being like regular social "chit-chat" so I dont think too much about my comments, and sometimes that is not a good thing. A good reminder to me that this is not the same as a social life, and you all wonderful people are not *really* friends or co-workers . And my passion for LCHF is not on your level! So being casual about it is probably not going to be received too well.
Cheers (LOL )
I think overall, everyone here is accepting of the casual low carbing IF the person is not comparing their results to those that are more strict. Casual results could be more or less dramatic. It just depends on each individual and their sensitivity and numerous other factors.
The only thing I hate to see is someone feeling disappointed and down for lack of results but unwilling to either tighten up their plan or adjust their expectations. One or the other has to give if things aren't working and a relaxed approach is being used. It's not to fair to blame low carb for "not working" if low carb is only halfway followed.
That's the only time I find myself feeling defensive about this way of life. 0
