Going on week 4 and still gaining weight Help Please
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macchiatto wrote: »Wow, dragonwolf's link is really interesting. Challenges my way of thinking ... FIT_Goat, that's good food for thought. (No pun intended. :tongue )
This is what I am going through now. I lost weight fairly quickly in the first few months but then I wanted to eat more, so I did. Eating at the same deficit I was happy at for so many months now leaves me hungry and unsatisfied. I've decided to go with what my body seems to want for now. I am not gaining or losing but hovering around 150 lbs.... It may be easier for me to do this though because I am pretty close to goal and fairly satisfied with my shape. Following my appetite would be harder to accept if I was heavier though.0 -
cedarsidefarm wrote: »I don't mean to be rude and you have obviously found a system that works well for you. But if I go down in calories, why would I even want do LCHF? I could cut my calories, eat all the beautiful bread I can make and be hungry and lose weight. LCHF would then be just calorie counting without the wonderful bread. I don't know about this.
You answered that question yourself in your first post:cedarsidefarm wrote: »My Mom is over 200 lbs and I've watched her struggle all her life on low calorie diets but they never worked. So, I know I have to do something different.
Since I cut carbs, I feel better and for the first time in a really long time, I am NOT constantly hungry. The swelling in my joints has gone down. If I could lose some weight, this would be the perfect diet for me. I've done the weight watchers thing and I have lost a lot weight. But I was so absolutely hungry all the time with the hunger getting worse and worse the longer I staid on the diet. And my finger nails got dry and brittle and I never had any energy. I finally gave up weight watchers and went back to smoking and eating one meal a day.
So, even without weight loss:- You're not constantly hungry
- Your inflammation is subsiding
- Your nails are healthy
- You have the energy to do your work around the farm
That's why you want to do LCHF. The weight will come, but the health has to come, first.0 -
macchiatto wrote: »Wow, dragonwolf's link is really interesting. Challenges my way of thinking ... FIT_Goat, that's good food for thought. (No pun intended. :tongue )
This is what I am going through now. I lost weight fairly quickly in the first few months but then I wanted to eat more, so I did. Eating at the same deficit I was happy at for so many months now leaves me hungry and unsatisfied. I've decided to go with what my body seems to want for now. I am not gaining or losing but hovering around 150 lbs.... It may be easier for me to do this though because I am pretty close to goal and fairly satisfied with my shape. Following my appetite would be harder to accept if I was heavier though.
This is where I'm at right now. I'm happy with my progress but there's still some fat I want to lose. But I'm just hungry and feel like I'm not "in the zone" anymore. Sorry to hijack OP. Did you change your macros at all when you upped your calories?0 -
macchiatto wrote: »macchiatto wrote: »Wow, dragonwolf's link is really interesting. Challenges my way of thinking ... FIT_Goat, that's good food for thought. (No pun intended. :tongue )
This is what I am going through now. I lost weight fairly quickly in the first few months but then I wanted to eat more, so I did. Eating at the same deficit I was happy at for so many months now leaves me hungry and unsatisfied. I've decided to go with what my body seems to want for now. I am not gaining or losing but hovering around 150 lbs.... It may be easier for me to do this though because I am pretty close to goal and fairly satisfied with my shape. Following my appetite would be harder to accept if I was heavier though.
This is where I'm at right now. I'm happy with my progress but there's still some fat I want to lose. But I'm just hungry and feel like I'm not "in the zone" anymore. Sorry to hijack OP. Did you change your macros at all when you upped your calories?
I had this happen as well. I was posting about it regularly at the time on my status. I decided to cut the sweetener I had been using in my coffee and stop using HWC and use butter instead.
I really think the sweetener was the main thing for me. I got my appetite control back with 2 days. And it's been steady ever since. That was about 6-8 weeks ago I guess.0 -
macchiatto wrote: »Wow, dragonwolf's link is really interesting. Challenges my way of thinking ... FIT_Goat, that's good food for thought. (No pun intended. :tongue )
This is what I am going through now. I lost weight fairly quickly in the first few months but then I wanted to eat more, so I did. Eating at the same deficit I was happy at for so many months now leaves me hungry and unsatisfied. I've decided to go with what my body seems to want for now. I am not gaining or losing but hovering around 150 lbs.... It may be easier for me to do this though because I am pretty close to goal and fairly satisfied with my shape. Following my appetite would be harder to accept if I was heavier though.
I was thinking about this recently and came up with a hypothesis on my own with no scientific backing whatsoever.
If fat is now your body's main source of fuel and you were losing weight because your body was drawing from stored reserves, when the reserves are depleted, doesn't it make sense that your body will now crave more fat in order to maintain? That's just my theory.
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Thanks everyone for the information. I've been out planting and haven't had a chance to come back and look at everyone's responses. I think I will stay LCHF for another month. That video about the measurement cups was interesting and the link to the woman who was on LCHF for 6 months before she lost any weight. Wow, that poor thing really needed to listen to her body.
My hubby says I look thinner and I find I have more energy. And to tell you the truth, when I gave up carbs I was euphoric for the first 2 weeks. I never felt so wonderful in all my life without hunger, without swelling in my joints AND still have energy.
But I have noticed since I've been really, really busy planting, I have lost my appetite. I could easily drop down to 1100 calories but I felt that would not be healthy so I made myself eat some fruit (5oz of grapes) to get my calories up above 1100 and still keep my total carbs at below 50. Ok, so now I know what you mean when you say you are Not Hungry. You can eat, food doesn't repulse you, but it's just not at the top of your to do list like it is when you restrict calories. When I was on weight watchers, I would think of food all the time, night and day, planning for my next meal, figuring how I could eat more by eating fewer calories. Now, It only comes to mind when my stomach starts growling.
Thanks again for all your help. I will post later and let you know if I ever lose any weight.0 -
Your body has calories stored on it. You were probably burning some serious fat and that's why you weren't hungry. Eating fruit turned off the fat burning at least for a while. Eating a lchf food would keep the fat burning going.
Success is in trusting the process and choosing the right foods.
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If you are on more than 35g carbs don't waste your $ on keto stix. At 50g and after many years of poor eating you will be guaranteed to not get a positive reading. I'm on 25g net carbs and if I go to 40g I'm definitely out of Ketosis. The stix work like clockwork for me and are a real motivator to know I'm burning fat.
I know I'm intolerant to carbs now. They are my alcohol like an alcoholics addiction. I thought I missed bread until 2 months ago when I had one fluffy white slice and was so sick after it.
I'm 53, been 'dieting' low fat, points, calories, detoxes you name it since I was 10. Been very overweight to morbidly obese all my life. In 9 months I have been on no sugar only for 2 months & then Keto for 7 months. I have shed 79lbs as at this morning. I cannot believe this is my stats. And I'm not hungry!!!! Many days I can fast and forget to eat, and under 1000 calories so I cannot complete my diary. I just count my carbs and listen to my body for its calories. If I'm hungry I focus on good fats and watch my protein to keep it moderate.
My annual blood tests last month had the best improvements my Dr and exercise physiologist have ever seen! LC works for me, but it took a lot longer than 1 month (sorry that sounds harsh) so just blindly trust LC and let your body balance itself out. Watch your sodium and potassium, I also take magnesium.
Would love to see where you are at in 9 months. You can do this.0 -
Ketostix are not an accurate indicator of being in ketosis or not. If you are eating 40g of carbs you are making a ton of ketones and burning fat. Whether it registers on the stick only means you aren't flushing them out through urine and can fluctuate based on levels of hydration.0
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Omg! It's not about the scale! It's about health
Wreck your body for years and expect the scale to go down when you decide you're ready to try?
Really? Do you want health or a swimsuit body?
If you've punished your body for years on low calorie low fat diets, it has a lot of catching up to do
Please, please allow it to heal it hormones and vascular system and to spend some tryglycerides and give it the benefit of adjusting to the new life you've decided to live the last few weeks.
Geez! It's about the rest of your life! Not what the scale says on weigh in day!
i think that is easy to say and not so easy to live. i was at my healthiest weight/frame/strength/overall health and then i got pregnant. i gained 25 pounds almost instantly (within 3 months) and then lost my baby. i had to have surgery, then another surgery 2 months later. the pounds kept piling on. now, it's been 3 years and my body is so screwed-up, i am on so many vitamins/minerals/supplements to try to get my body back in shape, both "health" wise as well as my looks. YES i do want my bikini body back. there is no denying it. i get VERY frustrated when the scale goes up (like it did the past couple of days) and i'm not losing what i feel i should be.
intellectually, i "KNOW" it's about my health and not the scale, but mentally, i see photos of myself from before my pregnancy and i get physically ill knowing that i don't look like that anymore.
yes, i have a long way to go, and yes i have alot to "undo" - but that doesn't stop my mind from wanting to be the way i was before.
my point is, it's not so cut-and-dry saying, "it's not about the scale."0 -
OK, its been 40+ days and I've lost a pound (at least I've stopped gaining) and I've lost an inch off my waist (I actually have an indentation where my waist is suppose to be, yeah!!!). I've been very, very busy and really don't even think of food until after the afternoon chores. So, I eat a quick lunch and a bigger dinner. I can't force myself to eat breakfast anymore. It's just turns my stomach to have to eat in the mornings. I think I will go with 2 meals a day, until I get hungry in the mornings again.
I really wont believe this is working until a lose about 5 pounds so I'm going to give this a few more months. I think I need to get my carbs back down to below 30 total carbs. I noticed they were creeping up to 81 total carbs this week. I found some low carb Tortillas and was eating too many. Each day is a learning experience.0 -
Sorry I didn't respond to your post sooner myprimal. I'm still learning the ins and out of how this message board works.
But you are absolutely right. It's not cut and dry. Because after 44 days on this diet, I got on the scale and I lost 2 more pounds in one week. I'm now where I was before I started gaining weight on this diet. So, though in some respects I'm right back to where I started, in other ways I'm much better off. I'm happier, I'm losing inches around my waist and I have an indentation where my waist is suppose to be that wasn't there before. The swelling and pain in my wrists and ankles is reduced and my finger nails are not brittle and breaking.
I know I can lose weight on a low calorie diet but the fat would NOT be coming off my waist. It would be coming off my flat butt and skinny thighs and then after every last bit of fat were off those areas, and only then, would my belly fat start coming off. And I would be sooo hungry and be living around when my next meal would be.
So, the scale can affect how you feel about your success. But, and this is a big but, it can also be a lying liar that lies to you.0 -
cedarsidefarm wrote: »Hi, I'm new here and am looking for advice. Ok, I didn't expect to lose any weight while my body adopted to a lifetime of caloric restrictions but to gain 3 lbs is that normal? I'm on day 23. I started out on the always hungry diet, then moved to stage 2 and don't use his recipes as much because I lowered my goal for carbs to below 50. He gives you a goal of percent of carbs in the diet in the book but I found that a plain number was easier to aim for. My goal each day is to eat less than 50 carbs. If/when I go over it is usually because I miscalculated the carbs in what I had planned to eat, not because I cheated. I have not had any bread, rice, potatoes, cake, cookies or bread (I said that already) and bread for 23 days. Bread was a big part of my life. I made it from scratch and developed different flavors for different soups and proteins. But I gave it all up because I gained over 45 pounds. I'm almost 180 and can't afford to gain much more weight at a heigt of 5' 4".
I quit smoking by chewing nicotine gum 2 years ago. I gave up the gum a year ago. I have not smoked since I started chewing the gum. I still chew from 3 to 5 sugar free pieces (not nicotine, plain gum) a day. Yes, they have 1 to 2 carbs per piece and I count them. I'm perfectly healthy, no diabetes, no thyroid condition, no high cholesterol, no high blood pressure.
I am a 57 year old female (keep it a secret, even my Mom doesn't know my real age).
my husband and I run a small organic farm. So, I get plenty of exercise. Here's why I think I may need some time to get my body back to normal. For most of my life, I have smoked and eaten only one meal a day, except when I was pregnant. I gained a lot of weight with each pregnancy but it came off as soon as I went back to smoking. Now that I quit, it seems like nothing I do helps me lose weight. My Mom is over 200 lbs and I've watched her struggle all her life on low calorie diets but they never worked. So, I know I have to do something different.
Is this weight gain something to worry about? Should I go back to counting calories and carbs and/or fasting? Should I get those strips that use urine to determine if I'm in keto? Are the strips useful? How long is it advisable to stay on this diet while gaining and not losing weight? Should I lower my carbs even further?
Since I cut carbs, I feel better and for the first time in a really long time, I am NOT constantly hungry. The swelling in my joints has gone down. If I could lose some weight, this would be the perfect diet for me. I've done the weight watchers thing and I have lost a lot weight. But I was so absolutely hungry all the time with the hunger getting worse and worse the longer I staid on the diet. And my finger nails got dry and brittle and I never had any energy. I finally gave up weight watchers and went back to smoking and eating one meal a day.
I don't want to ever pick up a cigarette again. Please, let me know if what I'm experiencing is to be expected considering how badly I treated my body with the smoking, caloric restrictions and fasting, or if you think I should change something.
Do you have any digestive issues? Diarrhea, constipation? Do you have a bowel movement 1-2 times a day? If your gut is messed up, and/or you have a "leaky" gut, there could be low grade inflammation preventing weight loss.
Try some bone broth for your gut health. Try making some fermented foods (YouTube).
It all starts in the gut....
I hope this helps,
Dan the Man from Michigan
Keto / The Recipe Water Fasting / E.A.S.Y. Exercise Program
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@MyPrimalLife I hear you. I am healthier and I put on 5lbs in 2 weeks when I stopped calorie tracking. Will check measurements shortly. I catch up with my good friends in 2 weeks and I was hopeful I would look as awesome as I felt and looked in January or better. It is disappointing to see the scale go the wrong way, especially given the effort required to not eat my fave fruit n veg. Intellectually, I know there are health benefits and I know men in many studies can ignore calories and intermittently fast with success but given women have different hormonal responses, I still have nagging doubts that those choices are going to work for me. Wish it was as easy for me to have faith and believe in the way @Sunny_Bunny_ does.
For me, I suspect stress level is a major overlay on whatever I am doing plus the ineffective lifestyle choices that I tend to default to when stressed: eat faster, eat more, drink less water (forget to leave desk to get it), drink more coffee (meetings), seek snacks to force self to keep going, work without breaks for 8 to 14 hours, sleep poorly, forget to exercise do yoga nor meditate, neglect to connect with others (too focussed on job that I percieve has to get done), shrink time for relaxing hobbies to zero (no time!!), forget almost to breathe etc. When I list it like that, no wonder my body figures it better hold on to what it has!
Here's cheers to a day off (now if I can just keep my mind off of the work that I need to do on the data and decisions that I am submitting next week that impacts the lives and careers of 1000 people). Other major deliverables next week too. Need to not take my job so seriously!0
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