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Did NOT drinking vodka kick me out of ketosis?
fileshiny
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Very confused this morning. My blood ketones test (I use a meter) show that I'm out of ketosis, after spending the last two weeks in optimal or almost optimal ketosis. I did the test twice with the same results. I always test in the morning, after exercise and before eating.
My macros yesterday were perfect and have been for at least a few days. The only thing I did differently was not drink vodka last night, based on Sunny_Bunny_'s comments about alcohol and stopping ketosis! Is this the BEST excuse ever to keep drinking?
My macros yesterday were perfect and have been for at least a few days. The only thing I did differently was not drink vodka last night, based on Sunny_Bunny_'s comments about alcohol and stopping ketosis! Is this the BEST excuse ever to keep drinking?
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Your ketones will be lowest in the morning due to morning cortisol and glycogen released. It must have just been higher than other mornings for some reason.
Definitely not related to the vodka though. I still drink on the weekends regularly even though I know it stops fat burning. I just don't eat anything to make off plan to make sure I'm not further working against my goals. And I can only handle a couple drinks before I over do it. Keto reduces your alcohol tolerance.
My husband says I'm a cheap date! Lol0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Your ketones will be lowest in the morning due to morning cortisol and glycogen released. It must have just been higher than other mornings for some reason.
Definitely not related to the vodka though. I still drink on the weekends regularly even though I know it stops fat burning. I just don't eat anything to make off plan to make sure I'm not further working against my goals. And I can only handle a couple drinks before I over do it. Keto reduces your alcohol tolerance.
My husband says I'm a cheap date! Lol
Dammit, Sunny, that's not good news!
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Alcohol can drive blood ketone levels up, but this doesn't mean that you're burning more fat or losing weight more quickly. Just like people can take ketones and drive blood ketones up, without actually benefiting from them.
Your ketosis levels may have been artificially high, due to the alcohol.0 -
I'm confused by this. I've seen it mentioned several times about alcohol stopping fat burning. I understand that the liver will process alcohol first. But isn't that true for any dietary intake. If I'm eating fat won't my body process that fat first before burning body fat?0
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Alcohol can drive blood ketone levels up, but this doesn't mean that you're burning more fat or losing weight more quickly. Just like people can take ketones and drive blood ketones up, without actually benefiting from them.
Your ketosis levels may have been artificially high, due to the alcohol.
This makes sense.0 -
auntstephie321 wrote: »I'm confused by this. I've seen it mentioned several times about alcohol stopping fat burning. I understand that the liver will process alcohol first. But isn't that true for any dietary intake. If I'm eating fat won't my body process that fat first before burning body fat?
Yes - usually dietary fat will be used before body fat. That's why there is a careful balance. Eating too much fat can cause less body fat to be burned because the dietary fat must be burned first.0 -
Alcohol can drive blood ketone levels up, but this doesn't mean that you're burning more fat or losing weight more quickly. Just like people can take ketones and drive blood ketones up, without actually benefiting from them.
Your ketosis levels may have been artificially high, due to the alcohol.
Agreed..
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So I'm hearing two different things: alcohol breaks down into ketones easily, and alcohol temporarily stops ketosis. Are these diametric opposites, or are they both true? I think I need more nuanced information as to what's going on. By the way, we are only talking about 2 jiggers of vodka, not slamming back a mickey.0
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I always have a bigger loss after my drink night, but trust me it doesn't take until the next day to come back up lol I don't understand all the ways of it but I have to have my drink night and so far really not messed with my loss or not enough for me to notice0
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I'm just making a guess here, but, I have always been the odd person that is almost always at moderate to large urine ketones even after over 10 months when I'm supposed to have developed more efficient ketone use and have less wasted through urine. That idea has never proven true for me. I've always had the theory that the reason has to do with my daily fluid intake. I do not drink very much of anything really. Coffee more than anything else. I've always thought my tests were so consistently high because of the concentration in my urine and probably blood too (I've always tested high by blood too) due to a fairly lower level of hydration. I'm not dehydrated, but I never make any effort to drink water just for the sake of it.
Since drinking alcohol is dehydrating, it makes sense to me that as soon as ketone production started back up (which is how I've always thought it works) it quickly became concentrated... I don't know, but it makes sense to me and is consistent with my own experiences as well. I too have shown "weight loss" the day after drinking, but I've always realized that it's just dehydration. It would never last. I would always have high blood ketones the next morning too. But no higher than what was ever normal for me anyway.0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I'm just making a guess here, but, I have always been the odd person that is almost always at moderate to large urine ketones even after over 10 months when I'm supposed to have developed more efficient ketone use and have less wasted through urine. That idea has never proven true for me. I've always had the theory that the reason has to do with my daily fluid intake. I do not drink very much of anything really. Coffee more than anything else. I've always thought my tests were so consistently high because of the concentration in my urine and probably blood too (I've always tested high by blood too) due to a fairly lower level of hydration. I'm not dehydrated, but I never make any effort to drink water just for the sake of it.
Since drinking alcohol is dehydrating, it makes sense to me that as soon as ketone production started back up (which is how I've always thought it works) it quickly became concentrated... I don't know, but it makes sense to me and is consistent with my own experiences as well. I too have shown "weight loss" the day after drinking, but I've always realized that it's just dehydration. It would never last. I would always have high blood ketones the next morning too. But no higher than what was ever normal for me anyway.
You know, I have always tested high too and never thought about it but I'm not a big fluid drinker either really I drink more I my 2 cups of coffee in the morning than I do water almost all day! I've often wondered why my pee strips were alway dark as they could get (high levels) and I bet ur right it's because I don't drink a lot of fluids... Thanks for filling me in lol
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