under 50 gram carbs - vegetable quantities ... how do you manage it?

Adi4Fitness

SO i use a bag of mixed vegetables for the carb part during my lunch / dinner. On the road to adopt a low carb lifestyle i find that all mixed frozen vegetable bags are not created equal...
A bag of California mix vegetables has about 16 carbs in a cup
And a bag of Thai style mixed vegetables has about 24 carbs in a cup...
I was eye balling the bags previously and going by total grams split by half or a third ... in my efforts to stay under 50 gram carb i went and bought measuring cups......
Am i being crazy or is this the part of low carb life style....

Also I notice I feel nauseous when ever i eat a meal with high fat.... do you spread out the fat's throughout the day?

nicsflyingcircus

I use a digital scale for pretty much everything but liquids, and the liquids I consume at this point are black coffee, brewed tea, water and the odd can of Lacroix. None of these have carbs or even really calories, so I track them but don't really measure to any closeness.

Digital scale > measuring cups for solid food if you're concerned about accuracy.

Also, if the fat is making you nauseous, do spread it out. Your carbs shod be a maximum, protein a goal to hit roughly, fat to fill in the rest.

And... You might try cruciferous vegetables to keep your carbs down. Broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, etc..

Panda_Poptarts

Leafy greens! Kale, collards, chard, spinach. Mmmm!

I find that frozen vegetables often have additives (sugar) that raise the carb count. Also, it seems like many of the frozen veggies are starchy. I stay away from veggies like carrots and corn.

Sunny_Bunny_

What's the source of the fat? Is it a certain fat that associated with the nausea or any fat you're eating?
How soon after the meal does the nausea seem to set in? How long does it tend to last?

Sabine_Stroehm

Panda_Poptarts wrote: »

Leafy greens! Kale, collards, chard, spinach. Mmmm!

I find that frozen vegetables often have additives (sugar) that raise the carb count. Also, it seems like many of the frozen veggies are starchy. I stay away from veggies like carrots and corn.

Spot on.

Adi4Fitness

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

What's the source of the fat? Is it a certain fat that associated with the nausea or any fat you're eating?
How soon after the meal does the nausea seem to set in? How long does it tend to last?

I tried tuna with mayo... , not sure if you are supposed to use mayo like a substitute for cooking oil ....
nausea set in half hour after the meal and lasted about 4 hours ... had to drink 2 green tea's to feel better .

Adi4Fitness

Panda_Poptarts wrote: »

Leafy greens! Kale, collards, chard, spinach. Mmmm!

I find that frozen vegetables often have additives (sugar) that raise the carb count. Also, it seems like many of the frozen veggies are starchy. I stay away from veggies like carrots and corn.

yeah makes sense.. i use frozen vegetables to save time... effort in preparation ...

Sunny_Bunny_

I guess what I'm getting at is
Are you using any vegetable oils as a source of fat? Mayo would be soybean oil, so that is one. I eat mayo sometimes too even though I think it's not such a good choice, I just try not to over-do it.
When you say cooking oils, what kind do you use?
I'm wondering if it's your fat choices that are the issue. Not the fact that it's fat.
Is it only when you ate the tuna with mayo?

bametels

I also use a scale to measure my veggies, and measuring in grams is more accurate than ounces. My go to low carb veggies are spinach, romaine lettuce, kale, and Swiss chard. I also enjoy mushrooms, onions, bell peppers, broccoli, cauliflower, spaghetti squash, and eggplant although these are higher in carbs so I eat them less frequently and in smaller quantities than I used to. Carrots and peas are RARELY on the menu these days and corn is off the menu at least for now.

Adi4Fitness

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

I guess what I'm getting at is
Are you using any vegetable oils as a source of fat? Mayo would be soybean oil, so that is one. I eat mayo sometimes too even though I think it's not such a good choice, I just try not to over-do it.
When you say cooking oils, what kind do you use?
I'm wondering if it's your fat choices that are the issue. Not the fact that it's fat.
Is it only when you ate the tuna with mayo?

I think this happened only because i ate mayo.... Does the choice of fat affect us that much?
I never tried mayo before , I did try some miracle whip some time in the past... but i took mayo as the label says 0 carbs.

I've been trying to incorporate some fats into my diet

I have avocado humus , cream cheese , cheese slices , as source of fat, and i use corn oil,butter for cooking..

I still have a bit of that weird feeling ... even after coming back from an intense workout at the gym..

Sunny_Bunny_

The fats you choose are very important.
Vegetable oils of any kind are highly inflammatory. And lead to all sorts of issues that we are working to remedy. They do not promote healthy hormones the way healthy fats do.
Animal fats, coconut oil, olive oil, avocado oil and dairy fats are where you want to get your fats from. Low carb high fat means switching your body over to a fat burning system but you have to supply it with fats that promote healing and healthy hormones and don't cause all sorts of detrimental negative effects.
I suspect that's where your nausea is coming from honestly. You're eating low carb but not supplying a healthy replacement source of energy. You're teaching your body a new way and it has a lot of adjustments to make. With electrolyte balance already being a possible source of not feeling great during adjusting, not supplying a fuel source your body can use effectively isn't doing any favors.

Sunny_Bunny_

Also, I know so many people that call everything that's yellow that people typically put on toast butter. Meaning they call margarine butter.... But it's not. It's vegetable oil. Same with some cheese like Kraft singles. It's not cheese. It's vegetable oil.
You want real foods. No fake almost plastic stuff.

auntstephie321

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

Also, I know so many people that call everything that's yellow that people typically put on toast butter. Meaning they call margarine butter.... But it's not. It's vegetable oil. Same with some cheese like Kraft singles. It's not cheese. It's vegetable oil.
You want real foods. No fake almost plastic stuff.

So true. My co worker was saying how they bought a tub of butter. I said, no you bought a tub of some sort of vegetable oil spread, butter isn't sold in tubs. I used to use the I can't believe it's not butter spray, and thought it was the greatest tasting fake butter ever

Adi4Fitness

Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »

The fats you choose are very important.
Vegetable oils of any kind are highly inflammatory. And lead to all sorts of issues that we are working to remedy. They do not promote healthy hormones the way healthy fats do.
Animal fats, coconut oil, olive oil, avocado oil and dairy fats are where you want to get your fats from. Low carb high fat means switching your body over to a fat burning system but you have to supply it with fats that promote healing and healthy hormones and don't cause all sorts of detrimental negative effects.
I suspect that's where your nausea is coming from honestly. You're eating low carb but not supplying a healthy replacement source of energy. You're teaching your body a new way and it has a lot of adjustments to make. With electrolyte balance already being a possible source of not feeling great during adjusting, not supplying a fuel source your body can use effectively isn't doing any favors.

That is great to know.

SamandaIndia

If you really want to lower carbs, take a look online at carb per 100g of various foods, glycemic index or just read tips here I eat leafy greens and cauliferous veg suggested above plus some lettuce. Some folk here just don't eat fruit n veg! Shock!! Simplifies choices a lot and I will do that again when my visitor leaves.

It took me 4 months to really get my head around adding coconut oil to my cooking (I was minimising oil and stir frying almost on a dry non stick pan before). I sleep better if I eat carbs at night so I leave them mostly until night. After much reading here I bravely tried "bullet proof" coffee. If I use a high quality butter, and really froth it up, it is delicious. Another Shock!!

I think @Sunny_Bunny_ has a good point. I thought the additional fat initially caused me nausea. I did need to slowly increase it and also get my Magnessium n Potassium electrolyte levels sorted to feel great. On that front, start slowly adding coconut oil to coffee (if you try that), aside from nausea it can have other (a-hem) side effects for some folk.