Paleo and carb nite program?
Desmonema
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Hi guys,
I have recently started the carb nite program, but am keeping things completely paleo. Anyone doing carb nite, too? Would be nice to share experiences, recipes and so on!!
I have recently started the carb nite program, but am keeping things completely paleo. Anyone doing carb nite, too? Would be nice to share experiences, recipes and so on!!
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What is carb nite? Never heard of it lol0
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The CARB NITE SOLUTION. Interesting program to create the hormonal environment to loose fat. Ultra-low-carb for 5 to 7 days, then massive carb-refeed that boosts all the hormones needed for fat-loss. That's it in VERY short.0
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The CARB NITE SOLUTION. Interesting program to create the hormonal environment to loose fat. Ultra-low-carb for 5 to 7 days, then massive carb-refeed that boosts all the hormones needed for fat-loss. That's it in VERY short.
Interesting, but as for me I prefer eating a steady flow of paleo/primal allowed carbs (fruits & veges).0 -
I read the book after seeing your post - sounds interesting enough. I just started inching my way to keto (I'm stuck with only 10lbs to lose), but I know I'll really miss fruit and sweet potatoes. I'm intrigued enough to give CarbNite a shot! I'm mostly paleo, except for homemade yogurt and the occasional cheese. I also IF though, so I'm not sure how everything will work together....add me as a friend if you'd like!0
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I read the book after seeing your post - sounds interesting enough. I just started inching my way to keto (I'm stuck with only 10lbs to lose), but I know I'll really miss fruit and sweet potatoes. I'm intrigued enough to give CarbNite a shot! I'm mostly paleo, except for homemade yogurt and the occasional cheese. I also IF though, so I'm not sure how everything will work together....add me as a friend if you'd like!
Great! Just added you! Maybe there's more paleo peeps trying it?0 -
I need to read up on this more, I already cut fruit and hardly ever have starchy veggies (had a sweet potato last night-first time in MONTHS! What are some good resources?0
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I just read a post from a guy doing this where he would eat CRAP all day his carb nite....not really what I want to do! I was thinking eating a whole sweet potato, a piece of fruit and maybe butternut squash or some other higher carb veggie. Not wanting to do it as a free for all night! Sticking to paleo!0
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I'm planning to enjoy some of the paleo baked goods it seems like I never get to have. I have a recipe for chocolate chip muffins that I LOVE. I also love banana ice cream, but it never fits into my carb goals. Usually I have to choose between eating either a half a sweet potato or a (small) banana, and it's still a struggle for me to stay under my carb limit.
I certainly don't plan to eat crap on carb nite, but I'm looking forward to enjoying the higher-carb foods that are off limits (for my goals of weight loss) when I eat my normal paleo diet.0 -
I've been on this diet and it is hard, but you see results instantly (even after being paleo for over 2 years). It's nothing too different from a keto diet except the 1x a week backload. It is good for losing tons of weight, or those pesky last 10 lbs. A big misconception is you have to eat crap, but there are a lot of paleo treats out there that are plenty high carb without eating donuts and ice cream (i.e. sweet potatoes, bananas, pumpkin). Plus, the author pretty much follows a primal diet (grain and legume free). He was on the Paleo Solution Podcast if you don't want to read the book. http://robbwolf.com/2012/11/27/kiefer-carb-backloading-episode-160/0
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I've been on this diet and it is hard, but you see results instantly (even after being paleo for over 2 years). It's nothing too different from a keto diet except the 1x a week backload. It is good for losing tons of weight, or those pesky last 10 lbs. A big misconception is you have to eat crap, but there are a lot of paleo treats out there that are plenty high carb without eating donuts and ice cream (i.e. sweet potatoes, bananas, pumpkin). Plus, the author pretty much follows a primal diet (grain and legume free). He was on the Paleo Solution Podcast if you don't want to read the book. http://robbwolf.com/2012/11/27/kiefer-carb-backloading-episode-160/
Thanks! I'm glad to hear someone else has done it. I'm not planning to do it very long, but I may do multiple cycles if it works as well as people say it does.
BTW - love your Alkaline Trio backdrop pic!0 -
do you plan to do the 10 day cycles or longer? I think I will start there and see where that gets me. How many carbs a day would you eat on a normal day vs a carb nite?0
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do you plan to do the 10 day cycles or longer? I think I will start there and see where that gets me. How many carbs a day would you eat on a normal day vs a carb nite?
The book says to start with 9 1/2 days ultra low-carb (<30 grams net), then indulge in your first carb nite. After that, go back to the ultra low-carb, with a carb nite scheduled once a week (but no sooner than 5 days from the last). You can continue the cycle for up to 6 months.
Yesterday was the first day I've gotten my net carbs below 30, which is perfect for me because that puts my first carb nite a week from Friday. The book doesn't specify how many grams of carbs to eat on carb nite, but from all the other research I've done, it looks like we women are supposed to have a high-carb/low-fat snack to kick off around 5pm (like a very ripe banana), have a carb-heavy dinner, then a dessert with a good mix of carbs and fat (like ice cream). Then it's bed time....which I can confirm from my previous carb binges. I get sooo sleepy.
The author stresses that it's very important to do this once a week to keep fat-burning hormones properly elevated. You can schedule when you want as long as it's somewhere between 5 and 8 days from your last carb nite.0 -
I am starting the CNS today. I am going to try and make it very Paleo/Primal, although I might not make it 100%. I've just started getting into this particular train of thought and not everyone around me is on board. Particularly some friends I am very close to. So, MFP, podcasts, websites, and other non face-to-face media is where I'll be getting my support!
So, nice to meet y'all! <--- I'm an Oakie...from Oklahoma.
I also agree that a CarbNite doens't have to be donuts and processed food. I plan to eat paleo muffins and cookies, maybe a little sushi for my dinner? Not real paleo because of rice but Chinese food and Sushi are my kryptonite!
Anyway, I'll be seein you all around here I hope!0 -
Tonight's my first carbnite, and I'm planning on sushi with white rice as well. I think it's one of the more benign "non-paleo" foods that will give the insulin spike we're looking for. I haven't actually lost any weight in the 10 days since I started the ultra low-carb....that makes me kind of nervous to carb-up tonight, but I'm still going through with it and I'll think about dropping my carbs even further starting tomorrow.0
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Tonight's my first carbnite, and I'm planning on sushi with white rice as well. I think it's one of the more benign "non-paleo" foods that will give the insulin spike we're looking for. I haven't actually lost any weight in the 10 days since I started the ultra low-carb....that makes me kind of nervous to carb-up tonight, but I'm still going through with it and I'll think about dropping my carbs even further starting tomorrow.
How did your carbnite go? I may give it a try.0 -
How did your carbnite go? I may give it a try.
I thought it went really well. I didn't plan very well, though, because the following day (yesterday) I went to an amusement park and, being unfamiliar with the place, was unable to find any food that wasn't really carb-heavy (of course I found restaurants offering meat and veg after I downed my hamburger and fries). So I basically had 2 carb nites in a row. I'm up 2.5 lbs from the first carb nite, but stayed the same after the 2nd....and now I'm really looking forward to going back to low-carb. I sent you a friend request if you want more info!0 -
Thanks so much! I've decided to start today. I haven't bought the book, but have been watching Kiefer's tips on YouTube.
ETA: I do have a question, I'll message you...0 -
I tried it for a couple months. It seemed to help kick-start some bodyfat loss, but it seemed to move me back towards insulin resistance, regardless of the claims. I've since returned to the simple, humble post-workout sweet potato, with no ill effects.0
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I've been trying carb backloading, concentrating all my carbs in the evening. I can say I've seen improvements in performance weight lifting/CF, but that's just because I'm not low carb anymore. I can't say I've seen dramatic changes in body composition, but I've only been tinkering with this the past month.
I only do carb backloading on training days, but even then, I'm not sure I'm getting enough carbs. I guess for women, we really don't need to go carb crazy like men do (lucky *kitten*!).
While I have nothing really of substance about my experience to contribute, I thought I'd share some a recipe. PaleOMG blog has the most ridiculous dessert recipes, all of which are pretty high carb. I made her Carrot Breakfast Protein Cakes, and they are super tasty with 205 cal, 18g carb, 8g protein, 12g fat. If at the end of the day you need a boost of calories and carbs, these will do the trick.0 -
epcooper wrote:
A good friend of mine follows Dave Asprey (Bulletproof Exec) for eating, including IF, Bulletproof coffee, etc. and then adds in Kiefer's Carb Nite Solution. He is a heavy lifter and has cut his bodyfat by 2% and added 10 lbs of lean body mass since switching to the Bulletproof/CNS combination.I'm mostly paleo, except for homemade yogurt and the occasional cheese. I also IF though, so I'm not sure how everything will work together.
You might want to look in to The Bulletproof Exec for your normal paleo/LC eating, it is very clearly a good solution for my friend. I am personally using a combo of Mark Sisson, Gary Taubes, and Dave Asprey from a nutrition and fitness perspective.0 -
epcooper wrote:
A good friend of mine follows Dave Asprey (Bulletproof Exec) for eating, including IF, Bulletproof coffee, etc. and then adds in Kiefer's Carb Nite Solution. He is a heavy lifter and has cut his bodyfat by 2% and added 10 lbs of lean body mass since switching to the Bulletproof/CNS combination.I'm mostly paleo, except for homemade yogurt and the occasional cheese. I also IF though, so I'm not sure how everything will work together.
You might want to look in to The Bulletproof Exec for your normal paleo/LC eating, it is very clearly a good solution for my friend. I am personally using a combo of Mark Sisson, Gary Taubes, and Dave Asprey from a nutrition and fitness perspective.
Thanks for the tip! I'm definitely going to start drinking bulletproof coffee again. I did for a short time a few months ago, and it made a huge difference in my energy level.0 -
I do it....0
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I got through my first carb night and did not do it Paleo style, needless to say, I feel like crap today, and will have to rethink my eating :ohwell:0
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Can somebody explain to me what's the difference between this and Cyclic Ketogenic Diet (that's been around for years and for free)? Cause it seems to me that that is precisely what that guy is selling...0
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Can somebody explain to me what's the difference between this and Cyclic Ketogenic Diet (that's been around for years and for free)? Cause it seems to me that that is precisely what that guy is selling...
I've done keto in the past but never got into the cyclical refeeds. With the exception of a few more carbs allowed, there's not much difference. I haven't paid anything for CNS but plenty of folks have. The internet is my friend, so I usually get all the info I need at zero cost.0 -
I am in my 10 day re-orientation. How goes it so far for you?0
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Epcooper!
I know this is an old post, but you're (or were) basically in the same boat as I am right now. I have been low carb/paleo for 4 years,so that part is nothing new..but I have a history of eating disorders & the idea of having a planned binge on ice cream scares the **** out of me. I know I need to up my carbs just for my overall health/mind/sanity (I discovered sweet potatoes last year & fell in love,but since they are so carby & I'm not a hardcore crossfiter I've only had them maybe 3 times..& that's just depressing BC they are incredible) & I don't have much to lose..more like maintain. My friend got me thinking about starting carb nite BC she's had a lot of success with it,but I'm wondering if you had any luck with it by making your carb nites a little more paleo friendly. I think the worst thing I'd eat is plain old noodles with butter, my old favorite ha.
I don't know if I want to try the carb nite schedule or if I should just start including small paleo things here & there..like I'm so strick I don't eat honey, so I hardly ever make the desserts & I haven't had fruit in what seems like forever..so maybe all I need is to just loosen up on my crazy strick low carb deal & just go with the flow.I know we're all different but I'd be interested to see how this worked for you. Thanks!
Ps- do you drink wine? That is my number one want/ need to add in. I know its not the best but its my favorite & I'm tired of being the only sober person when we go out ham0
