What do you think of this recommended plate for diabetes?
RainaProske
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I think it's helpful especially if you are going out for a meal. I don't think it would work if you eat differently like LCHF...if you eat all food groups then I would say it's good. I have used it when at a BBQ or a restaurant or at a friend's place.1
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Thank you. Good idea. Still trying to learn this diabetes thang.1
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Great for pharmaceutical companies.
Not so good for many of us with Type 2 diabetes, insulin resistance, and carb intolerance.
For such T2Ds (like me), it is a perfect map to higher BG, more meds, and eventually insulin and weight gain.
But everyone is a unique science project, and different folks with few obvious physical differences may have quite different reactions to the same diet.
My suggestion would be to read about the main nutritional approaches to T2D and try to understand the basis of critics' opposition - including personal or organizational bias.
Then - with BG in hand, watch your individual responses to carbs, proteins, and fats like a hawk (up to 10 BG measurements daily), until you have proof for yourself what works and what doesn't.
Lots of work
but no book or drawing can give you this sort of info about you! 3 -
It seems not too bad but I would skip the blue quinoa (grains) section. And I wonder why they bothered with a fibre section. You would think the fibre would be included in the non starchy veggies section.
I like that there are technically no baked goods, desserts or fruit sections.
It is waaaaay better than this plate that someone posted today in another area. http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/create-your-plate/ 75% carbs and 25% protein? No fat? You have to be kidding me!3 -
Thank you, both of you!
See, both of them look great. I remain so ignorant about what I should be doing . . . .2 -
I learned quite a bit about my diabetes diet here
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/sp3index.php1 -
Thank you!
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The book, Dr Bernstein's Diabetes Solution is a very good source for a low carb high fat (LCHF) diet to keep BG low and insulin needs down.
He really wouldn't approve of either of those plates.
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Thank you. My big problem is that I am supposed to be balancing my proteins with my carbs, in order to build muscle -- which I need desperately, but then, apparently, I am supposed to do something very different fort the diabetes. SO confusing to me. That's why I refused to deal with the diabetes for years, leaving it completely untreated -- just too much to deal with both diseases.1
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Honestly everyone is different and their body reacts uniquely. I would go to an independent dietician because they are not going to preach on thing only..they do many diets of diets. It would be a good starting point and you can tweek it when you are comfortable. Just my opinion. Talk to your doctor..perhaps ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. One thing is that you want to avoid the complications of this disease. Best wishes!!RainaProske wrote: »Thank you. My big problem is that I am supposed to be balancing my proteins with my carbs, in order to build muscle -- which I need desperately, but then, apparently, I am supposed to do something very different fort the diabetes. SO confusing to me. That's why I refused to deal with the diabetes for years, leaving it completely untreated -- just too much to deal with both diseases.
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Thank you, @JaneKnoll1. I have a dr. appt. tomorrow and one with my nutritionist on Friday. I will bring these thing up to them. Thank you.1
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You just need a little help Raina and I am sure you will be on your way to better blood sugar!!! Let us know how you get on!!!1
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RainaProske wrote: »Thank you. My big problem is that I am supposed to be balancing my proteins with my carbs, in order to build muscle -- which I need desperately, but then, apparently, I am supposed to do something very different fort the diabetes. SO confusing to me. That's why I refused to deal with the diabetes for years, leaving it completely untreated -- just too much to deal with both diseases.
If you do go low carb, leave your protein where it's at, I imagine it is a moderate 20-25% of your total calories, and replace cut carbs with fats.3 -
Yes -- protein is 20%. Thank you for your advice.0
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Asking your doctor and nutritionist for their recommendations is really the way to go. There is so much information out there, conflicting ideas, 'special' diet, it will make your head spin. I can't eat high fat because of my pancreas problem, but someone else is doing great with high fat.
I'm struggling again, so after seeing my doctor today, I'll make an appointment with the dietician to help me get back on track.
Good luck, and keep on keeping on!2 -
Yeah, I thought my apt yesterday was with my regular doc, but it was with my PBC doc. Very disappointed at first, but I think I am going to get good news from him. He was very unhappy with the diagnoses and treatment I've received and he's putting me through two different tests in the very near future that may change a lot of things -- like that I am stage 4. He doesn't think so, He thinks my docs have been idiots.
No, he didn't say that, but I saw his facial expressions. 0 -
Before putting your faith into a single nutritionist, I would urge you to read the book @nvmomketo recommended, Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Diet.
Unfortunately, in the US, it is hard to find truly knowledgeable and neutral dietitians who will not try to move you to eat more carbs than may be healthy for you.
But getting an endocrinologist referral does like a safer bet than taking pot luck with a dietitian!2 -
I have had bad luck with doctors and getting help. My first doctor told me not to read so much. My endocrinologist told me to eat my fruits and veggies and leaner cuts of meat. I finally found an orthomolecular doctor, who treats through nutrition and supplementation. He told me to try Atkins, but even he focused more on supplements than diet - I think because his patienst don't do the diet. I came back to him 40 lbs lighter and he said I was was his biggest keto success... and that was only 40 lbs lighter.
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But you've turned into a pretty formidable resource yourself!
(Thanks, perhaps, to the lack thereof in your local community - and the surplus of them here...?? )1 -
You betcha.
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