Everything we love to eat is a scam
KETOGENICGURL
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http://nypost.com/2016/07/10/the-truth-behind-how-were-scammed-into-eating-phony-food/
Came across this article and book review..I recommend it.
I know the sea food industry particularly is bad in "naming" fish sold incorrectly for high prices, and the olive oil industry is just as bad.
This article is worth reading if you are being particular on what you buy for your LCHF diet.
This piece focuses on NYC, being a local newspaper article, but it applies to where you live too..I know our "grass fed" beef really is grass fed, and that it is also 'finished' with grains to add weight.
Shocking is that 'real' scallops are soaked in water and chemicals to add weight to them for more $$, causing them to not cook right with so much loaded moisture.
Kinda depressing really..makes me glad I am following a vegetarian LCHF diet, and buying plain raw veggies, and cooking them at home. But still, finding the RIGHT 'real' coconut oil, etc now gets added to my grocery quest.
Came across this article and book review..I recommend it.
I know the sea food industry particularly is bad in "naming" fish sold incorrectly for high prices, and the olive oil industry is just as bad.
This article is worth reading if you are being particular on what you buy for your LCHF diet.
This piece focuses on NYC, being a local newspaper article, but it applies to where you live too..I know our "grass fed" beef really is grass fed, and that it is also 'finished' with grains to add weight.
Shocking is that 'real' scallops are soaked in water and chemicals to add weight to them for more $$, causing them to not cook right with so much loaded moisture.
Kinda depressing really..makes me glad I am following a vegetarian LCHF diet, and buying plain raw veggies, and cooking them at home. But still, finding the RIGHT 'real' coconut oil, etc now gets added to my grocery quest.
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Thanks for posting this. Im so sick of how we have allowed our goverment to sell us out to economic interest.7
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Thanks for sharing this article. The extent of corporate greed and the lack of real government oversight never ceases to amaze me. The harm this does to humans, animals, and the environment is staggering. And, for vulnerable individuals, like my one year old granddaughter with a serious peanut allergy, it's literally life threatening.3
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What's craziest to me is that other countries don't allow this type of shenanigans! Only we pansy US folks seem to do this crazy stuff...
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I've been telling people for years that they are suckers for buying into "grass fed" blah blah, and "free range" this and that.
About the only thing more nefarious is the organic subset, as that's actually causing a buttload of environmental problems and health risks, while the consumer has been duped into believing the exact opposite.5 -
Actually, @KnitOrMiss - you'd be surprised to find out that non-western parts of the world have also changed and their diets look a lot like ours now. I saw a documentary about it - it wasn't a very popular one, and damned if I can remember it now.
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Try not to think that the politicians care about anything other than retirement with a huge pension, and any under the table perks they can stash away.
We are simply wallets.
The last thing on their minds is healthy eating.7 -
@bjwoodzy - that makes me so sad!!! Trust me, we're not to be copied for being capitalists who put money/profits before everything else. *sigh*3
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Midnightgypsy0 wrote: »Try not to think that the politicians care about anything other than retirement with a huge pension, and any under the table perks they can stash away.
We are simply wallets.
The last thing on their minds is healthy eating.
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »What's craziest to me is that other countries don't allow this type of shenanigans! Only we pansy US folks seem to do this crazy stuff...
On a related note, I read this morning (Page 76 of the current issue of Good Housekeeping Magazine) that in Canada there are 800 ingredients that have been banned or restricted for use in cosmetics. Here in the United States? 11.3 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I've been telling people for years that they are suckers for buying into "grass fed" blah blah, and "free range" this and that.
About the only thing more nefarious is the organic subset, as that's actually causing a buttload of environmental problems and health risks, while the consumer has been duped into believing the exact opposite.
I don't know about that. Most commercial meat is full of antibiotics and hormones, which are not good for anyone with endocrine issues, like I have. The use of antibiotics in meat animals is banned in Europe because it contributes to the development of antibiotic-resistant bacterial. Not a good idea.
I would much rather buy my meat from local farms here that demonstrably pasture their animals and feed them grass (you can see them in the fields) and feed their chickens a vegetarian diet.4 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I've been telling people for years that they are suckers for buying into "grass fed" blah blah, and "free range" this and that.
About the only thing more nefarious is the organic subset, as that's actually causing a buttload of environmental problems and health risks, while the consumer has been duped into believing the exact opposite.
I don't know about that. Most commercial meat is full of antibiotics and hormones, which are not good for anyone with endocrine issues, like I have. The use of antibiotics in meat animals is banned in Europe because it contributes to the development of antibiotic-resistant bacterial. Not a good idea.
I would much rather buy my meat from local farms here that demonstrably pasture their animals and feed them grass (you can see them in the fields) and feed their chickens a vegetarian diet.
Oh yeah, if you can actually put eyes on your food, that's the way to go. I was referring to the blind trust of labels that everyone seems to be okay with, because it gives them good feels, or something.2 -
Yes, that I get. I'm not sure how "organic" is policed. Still, where we are we're lucky to be able to buy from farms that say they're organic, and the stuff is nice, so I guess that's something.1
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Yes, that I get. I'm not sure how "organic" is policed. Still, where we are we're lucky to be able to buy from farms that say they're organic, and the stuff is nice, so I guess that's something.
The problem with organic is that most of the things non-organic farmers use (fertilizers, hormones, etc.) are there to increase yield. It's not just about profits as some like to speculate. We literally don't have enough viable land to feed our current population if every farm were to go organic. We'd be back to the 20s, so far as food production goes.
Also, since the market for organic stuff is smaller, there tends to be more freight hauling involved (smaller loads, longer hauls, etc.) which increases emissions output from the trucks used to move the goods. There are a whole lot of factors that people don't think about.3 -
mandycat223 wrote: »In Canada there are 800 ingredients that have been banned or restricted for use in cosmetics. Here in the United States? 11.
Let's see...
DDT
Arsenic
LSD
Laetrile
.... what did I miss?
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Yes, that I get. I'm not sure how "organic" is policed. Still, where we are we're lucky to be able to buy from farms that say they're organic, and the stuff is nice, so I guess that's something.
The problem with organic is that most of the things non-organic farmers use (fertilizers, hormones, etc.) are there to increase yield. It's not just about profits as some like to speculate. We literally don't have enough viable land to feed our current population if every farm were to go organic. We'd be back to the 20s, so far as food production goes.
Also, since the market for organic stuff is smaller, there tends to be more freight hauling involved (smaller loads, longer hauls, etc.) which increases emissions output from the trucks used to move the goods. There are a whole lot of factors that people don't think about.
30% of the food grown is never eaten, I'm pretty sure the US grows enough food for the whole country at portions that are healthy and not oversized. If it were organic there would probably still be enough.
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141013-food-waste-national-security-environment-science-ngfood/2 -
canadjineh wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Yes, that I get. I'm not sure how "organic" is policed. Still, where we are we're lucky to be able to buy from farms that say they're organic, and the stuff is nice, so I guess that's something.
The problem with organic is that most of the things non-organic farmers use (fertilizers, hormones, etc.) are there to increase yield. It's not just about profits as some like to speculate. We literally don't have enough viable land to feed our current population if every farm were to go organic. We'd be back to the 20s, so far as food production goes.
Also, since the market for organic stuff is smaller, there tends to be more freight hauling involved (smaller loads, longer hauls, etc.) which increases emissions output from the trucks used to move the goods. There are a whole lot of factors that people don't think about.
30% of the food grown is never eaten, I'm pretty sure the US grows enough food for the whole country at portions that are healthy and not oversized. If it were organic there would probably still be enough.
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141013-food-waste-national-security-environment-science-ngfood/
If we could get rid of that entire 30%, and get the entire population to their actual required intake then yes, it would be just enough. However, to believe that can happen, without going to some form of imposed rationing, is a bit of a stretch. One would also need to account for those who may have higher caloric requirements (strength and endurance athletes come to mind), and the whole thing just gets way too hazy to be able to draw on such a fine line.
Essentially, we spent centuries trying to create a "land of plenty". Then it got abused. Now we would have to figure out how to pull back the reins on that, without causing some seriously nasty fallout. Personally, I'm not okay with the thought of rations, "breadlines", and a sect of starving populace (you know it will be the working poor), just so we can feel a bit better about our environmental impact.3 -
I've heard that the olive oil from Italy is far better than the oil sold here, but I can't afford to travel to Italy to confirm, lol. I've heard they even blend olive oil together with vegetable oil to increase their profits here. Italy it's 100% olive oil. The only thing I've been told was to look for olive oil sold in dark bottles or dark containers, because that's how it stores best.
Edit: Oh the article talks about the olive oil too. Should have read it before I posted!1 -
I've heard that the olive oil from Italy is far better than the oil sold here, but I can't afford to travel to Italy to confirm, lol. I've heard they even blend olive oil together with vegetable oil to increase their profits here. Italy it's 100% olive oil. The only thing I've been told was to look for olive oil sold in dark bottles or dark containers, because that's how it stores best.
Edit: Oh the article talks about the olive oil too. Should have read it before I posted!
I can confirm: Italy's olive oil is amazing. I could (and did) practically live on it.1 -
Wow, I'm really bummed out about the seafood, esp. sushi.. I guess I could live on "Roquefort cheese and Champagne from France, Bologna meat and Chianti from Italy and Scotch from Scotland"2
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Costco has the best coconut oil I have ever found!
I feel very fortunate to live in a rural area where I can see the farms my food comes from and feel certain I can trust what the farmers say about what they are or are not putting on their fields and feeding their animals.1 -
tcunbeliever wrote: »Costco has the best coconut oil I have ever found!
Regarding Costco EV olive oil -
Stephen Phonney sent a sample of Costco EVOO to a lab, and it came back as pure olive oil.
IMHO it's a great deal - inexpensive and extremely flavorful!
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canadjineh wrote: »30% of the food grown is never eaten, I'm pretty sure the US grows enough food for the whole country at portions that are healthy and not oversized. If it were organic there would probably still be enough.
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141013-food-waste-national-security-environment-science-ngfood/
Q: What is a great example of the awful irony of excess food waste in our "land of plenty"?
A: "Food deserts." Heartbreaking, honestly.
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Shark Tank "new products" program had a guy who wanted to start "Olive oil bars" around the US after tasting Italian REAL oils... It sounded "too affected- yuppie" until I read this article!
One positive is dark glass bottles, and to test purity see below .
And COSTCO DID come out on top in the article below...good news for saving $$.
http://dontwastethecrumbs.com/2013/04/how-pure-is-your-olive-oil-a-two-step-test/
Two Step Olive Oil Purity Test
Pour 2-4 tbsp of olive oil into a clean glass jar. Seal the jar.
Put the jar in the refrigerator for 24 hours.
If the oil solidifies, it’s monounsaturated and is olive oil.
If the oil remains a liquid, it is polyunsaturated and is NOT olive oil.2 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »@bjwoodzy - that makes me so sad!!! Trust me, we're not to be copied for being capitalists who put money/profits before everything else. *sigh*
Ironically, other countries aren't copying the U.S., our multi-conglomerates and giant food corps are literally force-feeding these countries our high carb and sugar-filled glop! Nestle and Coca-Cola, to name a couple. Found the documentary about global obesity!
Also, here is the food waste film I saw after my earlier comments on this post
http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3522082329/0
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