Do you consider it cheating?
Xo_healthylc
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So if you have a lot of carbs left over and you have a higher carb item and it's all within your carb limit do you consider it a cheat? I had a 4 count Wendy's nugget today for 10 total carbs and I'm all within my limit for today. I still feel kind of bad that I ate it but at the same time I stick to 30 total carbs a day and I'm still okay on that. Do you consider stuff like this a cheat or something that's "all within plan" just curious... ❤️
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Xo_healthylc wrote: »So if you have a lot of carbs left over and you have a higher carb item and it's all within your carb limit do you consider it a cheat? I had a 4 count Wendy's nugget today for 10 total carbs and I'm all within my limit for today. I still feel kind of bad that I ate it but at the same time I stick to 30 total carbs a day and I'm still okay on that. Do you consider stuff like this a cheat or something that's "all within plan" just curious... ❤️
If it fits, it fits, though it would be hard to judge it's effect on blood sugar, when ingested all at once, without knowing the actual ingredients. I can't help but feel like 10g isn't going to affect it enough to be worth worrying about.4 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Xo_healthylc wrote: »So if you have a lot of carbs left over and you have a higher carb item and it's all within your carb limit do you consider it a cheat? I had a 4 count Wendy's nugget today for 10 total carbs and I'm all within my limit for today. I still feel kind of bad that I ate it but at the same time I stick to 30 total carbs a day and I'm still okay on that. Do you consider stuff like this a cheat or something that's "all within plan" just curious... ❤️
If it fits, it fits, though it would be hard to judge it's effect on blood sugar, when ingested all at once, without knowing the actual ingredients. I can't help but feel like 10g isn't going to affect it enough to be worth worrying about.
Thank you. It's still my first week on LCHF so just learning new stuff and curious!0 -
I agree if you can make it work with your macros than go for it. That being said I wouldn't recommend using 10 g of your carbs everyday on chicken nuggets.2
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Whole foods are better, however I'm proud that you had a little "cheat" and kept in within your daily macro count3
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I'm a diabetic so the type of carbs I eat matter, chicken nuggets would definitely be a bad choice for me as they would raise my blood sugar more than carbs from vegetables.
Whilst I'm frequently at 35-40 total carbs for the day right now, most of it comes from veggies and I make sure that my fiber count is high and my sugar is low, so for me that carb macro needs further scrutiny than just "total carbs" or even "net carbs". I also strive to eat clean and I avoid all starches and grains too though, in addition to eating LCHF, so, yes, chicken nuggets would be a cheat for me, in any quantity.
But you need to choose your own path and select your own food philosophy based on your personal nutritional needs. Believe me, I ate plenty of chicken nuggets before I got to this place in life lol and choosing to eat 4 instead of 20 is a very positive change
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PaleoInScotland wrote: »But you need to choose your own path and select your own food philosophy based on your personal nutritional needs. Believe me, I ate plenty of chicken nuggets before I got to this place in life lol and choosing to eat 4 instead of 20 is a very positive change
This. Right. Here.
Choose the path that works for you. I try to eat as cleanly and wholly as possible, yet I make exceptions for salad dressings snd mayo. I'm just lazy about making my own. I will snag a french fry on occasion from the hubs, but that's about it. Do what feels right for you. I'm still trying to work my mind around an Ikea frozen yogurt at 22g carbs - if I ditch the cone I should be good. I've been thinking about this for weeks! It's a good thing the closest store is 100 miles away! And that would definitely be a cheat in my book.3 -
I personally am IR so no REFINEF carbs for me so do me it would be a cheat. But I eat fruit and higher carb fruit as a treat if it fits in and don't consider that a treat. But that is me!!
For you it is what works for you and if that works yay for you if you can have that and stop there good for you!! For me it would send me looking for many many more carbs and not tje good kind! 1 -
Really the only thing to consider when choosing to eat carbs is whether it is a problem for you. If you have no health issues such as diabetes, IBS, food allergies, celiac disease..the type of carbs you choose to eat really doesn't matter. Even though some people can eat grains, fruit, chocolate, sugar with no problems, others find it will trigger mad cravings.
Just do what works for you.3 -
For me, I wouldn't do it because four nuggets would lead to a chicken fried steak at my favorite restaurant. But for my daughter who just decided to join me and she's nervous about missing stuff I tell her eat whatever she wants as long as she stays at her goals.4
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Nope. I basically do IIFYM, just with keto macros.
I usually try to go for healthier carbs but I don't consider anything cheating if it's within my limits. I pay attention to how it makes me feel though because some foods just aren't worth it for me (trigger reflux or joint pain, etc.).2 -
Not a cheat... I budget "treats" into my macros all the time... I spent over 25 years restricting certain foods and setting myself up for "going off the plan" and I refuse to do that anymore. This is my LIFE, and in life we don't always eat ideally. I aim for most of my diet to be organic whole foods, but if I want a treat, I don't freak out about it, I budget it in. It takes the allure of forbidden food away too, and knowing I can have whatever I want, as long as I budget for it means I'm not craving stuff as much.1
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Love your question, today i'm going to confess that i ate a cup of cherries. They were 21 delicious carbs and sweet.
You did a great job of eating only 4 chicken nuggets......we learn as we go.
Continued good luck to you @Xo_healthylc 1 -
macchiatto wrote: »Nope. I basically do IIFYM, just with keto macros.
I usually try to go for healthier carbs but I don't consider anything cheating if it's within my limits. I pay attention to how it makes me feel though because some foods just aren't worth it for me (trigger reflux or joint pain, etc.).
ditto, this is exactly what I do. I also record EVERYTHING I eat, keto and on-plan or not, so that I can try to correlate food to body reactions, if that makes sense? Like two nights ago I had 2 pcs of garlic bread and come yesterday I was extra tired, irritable, and my hips hurt soo bad -- since the only non-typical thing I ingested was the bread, gee whiz I wonder what could have caused that?2 -
I've also stopped calling it cheating. Maybe it's just me but like @anewlifeat40 said, this is my life. I don't cheat at life, I live life. An imperfect, constantly learning process, so of course there will be ups, downs, blips and bumps, but I finally refuse to play the guilt and blame game against myself any longer. I know and accept that there will be ups, downs, blips and bumps - some planned and calculated, and some accidental - and I refuse to beat myself up, assign blame, and feel guilty when they happen. I choose to treat myself with some dignity and respect, the same amount I would give my dearest friends. If I wouldn't say something to a friend face to face, I don't say it to myself in my head either. That includes "you're so awful for eating that!"
Perhaps it is because I have the "luxury" of not being bound by this way of eating being a NEED - as in, I don't have a medical reason to eat this way (such as diabetes, PCOS, IR, etc) so if I have a bowl of cherries or 4 chicken nuggets it doesn't cause much of a detrimental reaction. I mean, I may end up irritable and with painful hips the next day, but I don't have to do BG checks or inject extra meds because of it. I just have to pick myself up and move on.
Forgive me if this makes no sense, it's 3:45 in the morning LOL8 -
I'm so early in on the plan I'm doing all I can to prevent the accidental cheats right now. I've been doing research on Keto diets and I happened across one that's cycling your carb levels. Going strict no carbs then slowly upping the amount then dropping back to Zero again. I'm keeping a note on that for later but I know myself too well. I have no seatbelt on the WOE Wagon and all it takes is one bump in the road and I'm off and lost on the carb wilderness!1
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There is really no minimum daily carb count necessary for the body, so if you are short on carbs one day you don't have to hunt up carbs to eat to get to that arbitrary number. Remember though, that it is often the combination of salt, fat, and carbs (turned into glucose) that set one up for cravings. Many scientists have been paid good money by food conglomerates to come up with the optimal trigger of the three to make us crave more.
scalar.usc.edu/works/uiuc-food-networks/media/MichaelMoss_SaltSugarFat2013_2.1.pdf1 -
I've also stopped calling it cheating. Maybe it's just me but like @anewlifeat40 said, this is my life. I don't cheat at life, I live life. An imperfect, constantly learning process, so of course there will be ups, downs, blips and bumps, but I finally refuse to play the guilt and blame game against myself any longer. I know and accept that there will be ups, downs, blips and bumps - some planned and calculated, and some accidental - and I refuse to beat myself up, assign blame, and feel guilty when they happen. I choose to treat myself with some dignity and respect, the same amount I would give my dearest friends. If I wouldn't say something to a friend face to face, I don't say it to myself in my head either. That includes "you're so awful for eating that!"
Exactly @Phrick! I just do not understand why we are so hard on ourselves, isn't there enough people hating on us already? lol Honestly, if I could eat carbage all day and be healthy, hey I would do it, even if i was overweight. But alas, I cannot since i have developed T2D and over-consumption of carbs is literally a death sentence for me. Even so, I refuse to beat up myself if I have a slip up here and there. Live and Learn!0 -
I like what I eat on the keto diet, honestly. But if I have a carby day, I don't consider it a "cheat" - it's just a day where I indulged a little more than I should have. And let me say that when I choose something carby to indulge in, it is a definite CHOICE and is treated like an indulgence, as in - I do not punish myself over it. I enjoy it in the moment, and then I move on. I make it a point to only choose things that are really worth it, I'm not going to consider rice an indulgence for example, but a small slice of my favourite cheesecake? That is worth it. Once in a while.1
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I don't have diabetes or seem to have much insulin resistance so I wouldn't count that as a cheat. I occasionally fit higher carb things into my day like a touch of bbq sauce or berries. As long as I stay under my carbs I consider myself on plan.0
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Not a cheat at all, totally within plan.0
