ADHD meds and Keto

aserrano79
aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
edited November 2024 in Social Groups
My friends doing Keto. Do you feel that, if you don't eat all your calories, you gain weight (water)? Like I have said before I weigh everyday (sometimes I don't log that weight
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  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    @Sunny_Bunny_ I'm not sure what happened to the rest of @aserrano79's message, but this is your cup of tea, so to speak....
  • aserrano79
    aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
    Well fudge! Ok. Pretty much I'm adhd and on vyvanse. On the days I am not hungry and don't eat all my protein and fat I gain "water" weight. It comes off but I was wondering if my body thinks it's starving? Sometimes my belly is rumbling but I am not hungry. I have never had this problem before. I'm constantly drinking water and sodium is great. I'm a salt-a-holic. So, I don't know if this is my body or a medication thing. I try to stay below 20 grams carb so I don't think it's that. Also the meds have never curbed my appetite. Obviously with how much weight I have to lose. I'm
    Just confused. Wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    When you say salt-a-holic, are you getting at least 5000 mg of sodium per day MINIMUM? It replaces sodium lost through water release naturally when dropping carbs. Also, the more water you drink the more salt you need to add. If you aren't adding magnesium, and possibly potassium, you'll end up in a way wacky imbalance.

    For me, if I don't hit that 5000 mg mark, I'll retain water like crazy!!!

    I don't know anything about vyvanse, though, sorry... I have to get close to my fat macro in order to lose anything... Keto (20 grams carbs) is notorious from making rumbling belly sounds - changes in digestion...

    Unless you're 700 calories under or 1000 cals total, your body will burn stored body fat to make up the difference, normally.
  • CeliaSea
    CeliaSea Posts: 51 Member
    I'm also ADD, but currently unmedicated. I was on Adderall XR for years. I went off of it because I was experiencing some situational anxiety (surrounding a breakup) and felt being on a stimulant was making it worse. Every few months I toy with the idea of going back on, but I've found that cutting out sugar has had a very positive effect on my focus, so I'm trying to go without my prescription for a full year before making any decisions. From what I've read, all of the stimulant ADD/ADHD medications raise your cortisol levels significantly. So, perhaps that is part of the problem?
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    edited August 2016
    I've been on Adderall for like 12 years and in the beginning it did affect my appetite, which was nice :wink:
    I've gotten so used to it over the years I don't have any difference on appetite on days I don't take it.
    When I first started Keto, I lost weight very consistently for about 3 months. Then less consistent for a few months until I stopped losing altogether last January. At least, I haven't lost any new weight that I've kept off for more than 2 weeks before it jumps right back up anyway.
    However, I have dropped from a perfect fit size 8 to a perfect fit size 6 and 4 in some brands. Even without losing any weight. Actually, I'm up more than 3 pounds from where I was in January when I wearing the 8's...
    My appetite when I started Keto was very low and many days I didn't even get 1000 calories. Then It felt natural to eat around the 1200-1300 goal I had for a while. Then I got to the point where I was fighting the hungries but it was mostly related to artificial sweetener use. I cut that out and got the hungries under control again.
    These days, I'm currently about 10 pounds to goal and I don't track anymore so I don't exactly know what I'm eating but appetite is completely under control so I think I'm staying at or below maintenance on average.
    Anyway, I did not experience anything but losses when eating little food. As I got more appetite as I got closer to goal weight, I ate more and saw losses slow way down. But, lots of times, losses didn't happen and even gains appeared when I was definitely eating at a good deficit. I'm sure it was water weight. I don't know if it was caused by stress of under eating or any other possible stressor or gut contents or hormones or inflammation... Who knows. There really is no way to be sure.
    What I have found in relation to ADHD is that I went from the maximum 30mg dose of my meds to 20mg and I could probably cut it back to 15 but I'm being cautious because my insurance is stupid about approving it and likes to put me through the ringer to keep taking it. They pretty much don't like adults taking ADHD meds...
    I started Keto for weight loss but quickly realized this is what I NEED to do for brain health and eventually end my dependence on those meds, or at least get on the lowest dose possible.
    I've also started supplementing a high caprylic acid MCT Oil, Gingko, fish oil, magnesium carbonate and high doses of vitamin C. I really credit the MCT oil for being the final push to being able to reduce the meds.

    I'm going with @KnitOrMiss thoughts about sodium. If sodium gets a bit low, you can retain water to a degree. If you're drinking a lot of water, you're flushing out a lot of sodium.
    Sodium is so often involved with just about any issue you can think of. Lol
    I drink pickle juice and or eat pickles every day. I love them so I don't even have to try to remember to do it! Lol
    If you're not so fond of that idea, drinking broth makes it easy to get the 3000-5000mg that you need. You could actually need even more than that. It's a very individual thing and friends heavily on how much fluids in general you consume as well as how much you sweat and exert energy.

    Edited because squirrels
  • Abm4n
    Abm4n Posts: 529 Member
    edited August 2016
    I feel a lot less anxious and more mentally focused on a LCHF diet.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    CeliaSea wrote: »
    I'm also ADD, but currently unmedicated. I was on Adderall XR for years. I went off of it because I was experiencing some situational anxiety (surrounding a breakup) and felt being on a stimulant was making it worse. Every few months I toy with the idea of going back on, but I've found that cutting out sugar has had a very positive effect on my focus, so I'm trying to go without my prescription for a full year before making any decisions. From what I've read, all of the stimulant ADD/ADHD medications raise your cortisol levels significantly. So, perhaps that is part of the problem?

    I also didn't like Adderall XR.

    Since I've been on LCHF, though, I've found that even small doses of the cheap, immediate-release, short-acting Adderall is sufficient when the world looks foggy (it's not me) or I have to do some tedious chore that the population of folks with attention-surplus disorder can dispatch without squirming.
  • aserrano79
    aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
    Thank you all. I really appreciate all the input:)
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    edited August 2016
    Edited because squirrels

    Martini = squirrel?
  • MyriiStorm
    MyriiStorm Posts: 609 Member
    I was prescribed Adderall XR as well for my ADHD. My own research let me to realize that a lot of the food additives we are exposed to in the U.S. can cause "allergic" reactions in people, which manifest as ADHD symptoms. Artificial colors, especially. Once I eliminated the artificial colors, artificial flavors, preservatives, etc. and went to more unprocessed foods, the ADHD symptoms significantly diminished.

    LCHF and clean eating go hand in hand, so I have not missed the ADHD meds at all since I started this WOE at the beginning of June. YMMV, but it couldn't hurt to try eliminating additives, if they are lurking in your foods.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Undiagnosed, untreated, andor UNDER diagnosed or UNDER treated thyroid issues often surface/present as ADD, ADHD, bipolar disorder, depression, etc., even if this is not the true condition. So please be sure to have everything well tested to ensure that you are properly treated, whether for a mental condition, physical condition, or both. Being improperly treated can lead to years of feeling broken and isolated or worse. In some cases, it can even escalate conditions.

    I responded well to ADD medications (generic, low dose), but they had a negative effect on my blood pressure, so I switched to using various combos with just caffeine, which I also seemed to respond well to, without the BP impact, in conjunction with some vitamins, minerals, and amino acids, but it has taken me years upon years to get to a good combination, and the latest "combo" has only been taken for 2-3 weeks now, so I have no idea if it will continue working long term. I don't know about others, but nearly ANYTHING taken "seems" to work at first - whether placebo or initial impact, but when you're not being properly treated, nothing seems to work longer term, even with increased doses and such.

    I was on many different medications over the years, all trying to get to the root of my issues. For me, I don't know if I really am <insert random mental condition here>, but I know that whatever I do or don't have, addressing other issues, staying low carb, and adding in supplements according to symptoms has helped me to avoid needing additional prescription medications. I wish others a whole boatload of feeling better, in whatever form that comes. But I also don't advocate not taking prescription medications when a legitimate condition is present. I have several of those I take myself. Just be sure to educate yourself along the way, and don't be afraid to experiment WHILE UNDER MEDICAL SUPERVISION. Different combinations of things help different people in different ways. Something that calms one person can make the next person seem like s/he is hyped up on meth and caffeine. :)
  • BABetter1
    BABetter1 Posts: 618 Member
    I don't mean to highjack this thread, but you all are the group of people who could probably help me the most. I am trying to go a little high fat low carb with the 7 year old ADHD sufferer in the house. He is on a non-stimulant med, Strattera. But, he really struggled with school last year in spite of it. I've noticed when he eats the food I'm having, LCHF, that his behavior is much more calm and focused. It's seriously a night and day difference. School starts tomorrow, and I need ideas for kid friendly breakfasts and lunches. School food is just loaded with sugar and carbs, not to mention preservatives. It's like nothing is "cooked" anymore. It's all pre-packaged junk. Problem is, he may like something I make for him today, but tomorrow he "doesn't like that anymore" and won't eat it. It also has to be something that I can prepare ahead. Hubs has to get 4 kids out the door in the morning, and he won't do anything complicated or requiring actual cooking. The kid in question also recently decided he no longer likes eggs or bacon. I guess other than suggestions for foods, my question is the "like it, nope, now I don't like it" thing, is that just part of the ADHD? Could it be that he actually likes feeling wired up, and fights against things that prevent it?
  • aserrano79
    aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
    Well I'm one of those people that like one thing and the next not, so I feel for the kid:) choices but not too many. I don't do well with multiple options. It's too overwhelming. On another note, when adhd people act "wired" we are over stimulated. It's really hard to focus. It's like, my brain was a standard shift car, and I'm stuck in fourth gear needing to be in over drive:) (picture jerking motion of car here). We blurt out things because if we wait our "turn" to talk we will forget what we where going to say. I have to still try really hard to not interrupt conversations. On the other spectrum, we can hyper focus on one thing and not be able to stop. Example: when I clean my house it takes me hours. I have to deep clean organize. So in conclusion, when I take my meds I feel better in control. I can make decisions. I remember things. I didn't do well on a non stimulant. It doesn't affect me at all. Made me sleepy but still couldn't balance my checkbook. The picky thing is just being a kid. Good luck. Hope this makes sense:)
  • Zenwenner
    Zenwenner Posts: 166 Member
    Mine have always liked pieces of cheese rolled up inside deli meats, cut up veggies & dip (cucumber, celery, broccoli & cauliflower), hot dogs or smokies without the bun, ketchup/mustard to dip in, that sort of thing. I have two ADHD boys, and I feel your pain! My oldest actually used to drink a cup of coffee with lots of flavoured cream in it (I know - sugar!) right before bed and for some reason it would put him right to sleep on school nights, where he used to have trouble settling down.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,140 Member
    BABetter1 wrote: »
    Aserrano79 thank you for giving me a little insight. You have no idea how much that means to me. He constantly interrupts people, and I didn't know why. And, I do think a stimulant med would probably be more effective for him, but DH disagrees and is dead set against it (I am a "Step" so I don't have final say here). So, I'm just doing as much as I can with the diet to try to help him.

    Zenwenner, I know a lot of people with ADHD are actually calmed by large doses of sugar and caffeine. However, this child is one of the exceptions. He is very sensitive to sugar, in the wrong way. It sends him bouncing off the walls, and he loses any shred of impulse control he had left. He got in trouble so much at school last year. We tried working with the school to allow him to eat in the cafeteria (he was sneaking and eating there anyway, even if we packed his lunch and fed him breakfast at home). They were supposed to withhold sugar, no desserts with his meals. After a couple of his worst incidents, a common thread appeared. They were still allowing him to have orange juice or oranges with meals. That is when we had to start packing his lunch for him. But, he still struggled with learning even though his behavior got a little better. That was before I learned about carbs, which he was still eating a ton of. Last night I baked sugar free, low carb cinnamon rolls so the kids could have a nice breakfast for the first day of school this morning. And, I packed his lunch - a wrap (low carb), some grape tomatoes, cucumber slices, ranch dressing (full fat), cheese, and 45 grams of blueberries with sugar free whipped cream for dessert. Fingers crossed. Hopefully, he will have a good day.

    MCT oil can provide a short term boost of ketones for brain energy even in people that don't eat low carb. So, it could give your step son the mental clarity of Keto. It only last for a couple hours after each dose though. So if there were a way to get another dose in at school so it could benefit the whole school day.
    Adding Gingko and ginseng could help too. They are both shown to improve memory and clarify as well
    MCT doesn't become solid like coconut oil but it has the higher concentration of short chain fatty acids that you would want for ADHD treatment. I add it to coffee but it can be added to cold drinks too. Maybe he could have it as a shot in a bit of flavored water or something... ???
    The best price for a high dose caprylic acid oil that I've found so far is the brand MiCkeyT 8 on Amazon.

    I wish your husband would consider meds for your son. I don't like the way I feel on days that I don't take them. I feel "normal" when I take them.
    Using MCT oil and other supplements has helped slot, but I've taken meds for years so I figure it will take a while to get off of them if I can at all. I may just always need a small dose of stimulant...
    I've always used coffee to help too.
    My doctor even told me that giving coffee to my daughter with ADHD, in the morning wouldn't hurt. She would never eat or even drink anything in the morning though. But, I guess the fact that she basically fasted til lunch probably helped a bit.
    Her last year of school she used Gingko and MCT oil instead of meds.
    She had been taking both Adderall XR and Straterra and still didn't feel like it helped. But the MCT oil and Gingko seemed to.
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    @BABetter1 - You are a saintly step-parent!

    I'm sorry about your DH drawing lines in the sand.

    50 years ago, there was no Prozac, Paxil (and on and on... ). It's tragic not only for the people who were born too early but would have experienced near-instant relief and improvements, but also for the people who could and would have, but for the stigma or other reasons for not even trying something that might have been like winning the psych lottery.

    Not even trying a potential life-changer that's available and affordable is a drug problem of its own.....
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,026 Member
    BABetter1 wrote: »
    Aserrano79 thank you for giving me a little insight. You have no idea how much that means to me. He constantly interrupts people, and I didn't know why. And, I do think a stimulant med would probably be more effective for him, but DH disagrees and is dead set against it (I am a "Step" so I don't have final say here). So, I'm just doing as much as I can with the diet to try to help him.

    Zenwenner, I know a lot of people with ADHD are actually calmed by large doses of sugar and caffeine. However, this child is one of the exceptions. He is very sensitive to sugar, in the wrong way. It sends him bouncing off the walls, and he loses any shred of impulse control he had left. He got in trouble so much at school last year. We tried working with the school to allow him to eat in the cafeteria (he was sneaking and eating there anyway, even if we packed his lunch and fed him breakfast at home). They were supposed to withhold sugar, no desserts with his meals. After a couple of his worst incidents, a common thread appeared. They were still allowing him to have orange juice or oranges with meals. That is when we had to start packing his lunch for him. But, he still struggled with learning even though his behavior got a little better. That was before I learned about carbs, which he was still eating a ton of. Last night I baked sugar free, low carb cinnamon rolls so the kids could have a nice breakfast for the first day of school this morning. And, I packed his lunch - a wrap (low carb), some grape tomatoes, cucumber slices, ranch dressing (full fat), cheese, and 45 grams of blueberries with sugar free whipped cream for dessert. Fingers crossed. Hopefully, he will have a good day.

    MCT oil can provide a short term boost of ketones for brain energy even in people that don't eat low carb. So, it could give your step son the mental clarity of Keto. It only last for a couple hours after each dose though. So if there were a way to get another dose in at school so it could benefit the whole school day.
    Adding Gingko and ginseng could help too. They are both shown to improve memory and clarify as well
    MCT doesn't become solid like coconut oil but it has the higher concentration of short chain fatty acids that you would want for ADHD treatment. I add it to coffee but it can be added to cold drinks too. Maybe he could have it as a shot in a bit of flavored water or something... ???
    The best price for a high dose caprylic acid oil that I've found so far is the brand MiCkeyT 8 on Amazon.

    I wish your husband would consider meds for your son. I don't like the way I feel on days that I don't take them. I feel "normal" when I take them.
    Using MCT oil and other supplements has helped slot, but I've taken meds for years so I figure it will take a while to get off of them if I can at all. I may just always need a small dose of stimulant...
    I've always used coffee to help too.
    My doctor even told me that giving coffee to my daughter with ADHD, in the morning wouldn't hurt. She would never eat or even drink anything in the morning though. But, I guess the fact that she basically fasted til lunch probably helped a bit.
    Her last year of school she used Gingko and MCT oil instead of meds.
    She had been taking both Adderall XR and Straterra and still didn't feel like it helped. But the MCT oil and Gingko seemed to.

    I have the same issue on meds. I'm not a step but he's fairly adamant anyway. And I feel him. I don't want my kid on meds, but if he really really needs it? My oldest son is 12. We homeschool so it isn't the hugest issue, but he has such a hard time. We had hoped he would grow out of some of it, but he's the poster-child for ADHD, and worse than I am (I'm ADD) and I take ginko biloba, and it helps but oh LORD I can tell when it wears off, and I'm a space case sometimes. So I feel his pain. He gets stuck in his head, paces while he's thinking. In public. To the point that he makes other people nervous. I may need to push the issue when he gets older if it keeps up. (An older gentleman talked to him in the grocery line...it took him way too long to get out of his own thoughts to respond. Kinda freaked the guy out a little.) His school work suffers, as he gets distracted while doing it and you can tell in the poor quality of the work. ARGH! Until DH changes his mind, I'll pass him my ginko and maybe look into the MCTs.
  • BABetter1
    BABetter1 Posts: 618 Member
    Ok, MCT Oil, yes I was wondering about it. Matter of fact, I ordered some yesterday as well as a vitamin/supplement combo called HCF, Happy Calm Focus. Aside from that, I think the next time they visit the prescribing physician, I will insist on going. I think Hubby just says everything is fine, and the doc keeps going with the Strattera. I may have to interject my own observation. And again, the Strattera does help with the behavior part, which IS important, but probably the only part Hubs is focused on. My biggest concern is his learning didn't really progress last year.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    The mct can easily be added to fat bombs that can be taken in school lunches. As long as there is at least one other fat that's mostly solid, it works for me. They can also be frozen so that they only soften by lunch time. And I believe that you can get mct in liquid gel firm too. Good luck everyone. This thread is absolutely amazing!!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Or if it is softer it can be put into a Tupperware pudding style or something. Just remember it needs to be slowly ramped up for kids too, even as a medicine use. Don't want to destroy them at school with disaster pants!
  • RalfLott
    RalfLott Posts: 5,036 Member
    Not to belabor the point, but I downsides and no upsides (other than compliance) in taking the XR version of Adderall.
    1. Many people who've tried the XR version (moi) have felt jittery for a protracted period.
    2. You lose the flexibility of taking separate, quicker-acting, smaller doses (and maybe a lesser daily total) of the standard, immediate-release version. These smaller doses can be timed and taken (if needed) in connection with your daily schedule.
    3. The XR formulation is more expensive.
  • Zenwenner
    Zenwenner Posts: 166 Member
    baconslave wrote: »
    BABetter1 wrote: »
    Aserrano79 thank you for giving me a little insight. You have no idea how much that means to me. He constantly interrupts people, and I didn't know why. And, I do think a stimulant med would probably be more effective for him, but DH disagrees and is dead set against it (I am a "Step" so I don't have final say here). So, I'm just doing as much as I can with the diet to try to help him.

    Zenwenner, I know a lot of people with ADHD are actually calmed by large doses of sugar and caffeine. However, this child is one of the exceptions. He is very sensitive to sugar, in the wrong way. It sends him bouncing off the walls, and he loses any shred of impulse control he had left. He got in trouble so much at school last year. We tried working with the school to allow him to eat in the cafeteria (he was sneaking and eating there anyway, even if we packed his lunch and fed him breakfast at home). They were supposed to withhold sugar, no desserts with his meals. After a couple of his worst incidents, a common thread appeared. They were still allowing him to have orange juice or oranges with meals. That is when we had to start packing his lunch for him. But, he still struggled with learning even though his behavior got a little better. That was before I learned about carbs, which he was still eating a ton of. Last night I baked sugar free, low carb cinnamon rolls so the kids could have a nice breakfast for the first day of school this morning. And, I packed his lunch - a wrap (low carb), some grape tomatoes, cucumber slices, ranch dressing (full fat), cheese, and 45 grams of blueberries with sugar free whipped cream for dessert. Fingers crossed. Hopefully, he will have a good day.

    MCT oil can provide a short term boost of ketones for brain energy even in people that don't eat low carb. So, it could give your step son the mental clarity of Keto. It only last for a couple hours after each dose though. So if there were a way to get another dose in at school so it could benefit the whole school day.
    Adding Gingko and ginseng could help too. They are both shown to improve memory and clarify as well
    MCT doesn't become solid like coconut oil but it has the higher concentration of short chain fatty acids that you would want for ADHD treatment. I add it to coffee but it can be added to cold drinks too. Maybe he could have it as a shot in a bit of flavored water or something... ???
    The best price for a high dose caprylic acid oil that I've found so far is the brand MiCkeyT 8 on Amazon.

    I wish your husband would consider meds for your son. I don't like the way I feel on days that I don't take them. I feel "normal" when I take them.
    Using MCT oil and other supplements has helped slot, but I've taken meds for years so I figure it will take a while to get off of them if I can at all. I may just always need a small dose of stimulant...
    I've always used coffee to help too.
    My doctor even told me that giving coffee to my daughter with ADHD, in the morning wouldn't hurt. She would never eat or even drink anything in the morning though. But, I guess the fact that she basically fasted til lunch probably helped a bit.
    Her last year of school she used Gingko and MCT oil instead of meds.
    She had been taking both Adderall XR and Straterra and still didn't feel like it helped. But the MCT oil and Gingko seemed to.

    I have the same issue on meds. I'm not a step but he's fairly adamant anyway. And I feel him. I don't want my kid on meds, but if he really really needs it? My oldest son is 12. We homeschool so it isn't the hugest issue, but he has such a hard time. We had hoped he would grow out of some of it, but he's the poster-child for ADHD, and worse than I am (I'm ADD) and I take ginko biloba, and it helps but oh LORD I can tell when it wears off, and I'm a space case sometimes. So I feel his pain. He gets stuck in his head, paces while he's thinking. In public. To the point that he makes other people nervous. I may need to push the issue when he gets older if it keeps up. (An older gentleman talked to him in the grocery line...it took him way too long to get out of his own thoughts to respond. Kinda freaked the guy out a little.) His school work suffers, as he gets distracted while doing it and you can tell in the poor quality of the work. ARGH! Until DH changes his mind, I'll pass him my ginko and maybe look into the MCTs.

    This sounds like my son. The doc says he has ADHD - Inattentive - meaning that he is often off in his own head somewhere and just not there when you speak to him. Sometimes I have to get right in his face or snap my fingers to draw his attention before I speak, or he has no clue what I've said. He'll be aware that I'm speaking, but have no idea what I said. It is very frustrating for his teachers. They think he's a "space cadet". I have had him in after school homework club to try and stay on top of what he misses during the day, because he seems to focus better in the smaller group setting. It has helped somewhat. The doc also told me that giving him a stress ball to squeeze when I need him to focus, or some crunchy snack like raw broccoli or carrots, will help keep his attention centred. This does work! When we do homework together now, if he wanders off in his head I bring out the broccoli for him to munch on, and he is way better at staying on task.
  • aserrano79
    aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
    @BABetter1 bus drivers are a**holes. Had the hardest time with my oldest till the "lady" was replaced with a hard hearing older gentleman:) Don't know about yalls kid, but mine is really intuitive about others feelings toward them. He was always border line obnoxious to teachers who couldn't handle him. (He knew if he crossed that disrespect line he was in for it!) He would always settle for adults who were kind to him. He would tell me he got a vibe from some people. As he got older I learned to listen to his vibe. 90% he was right. They were mean to him. I wish when he was smaller I would have listened more to him and been more his advocate sooner. But he turned out to be an awesome young man so I didn't screw him up to bad:)
  • BABetter1
    BABetter1 Posts: 618 Member
    Yeah, our bus driver is a real @ss. She treats our kids differently from all the other kids on the bus. Enforces "rules" on our kids that she never enforces on others. Our kids can do no right, all the other kids can do no wrong. I went around and around with her last year. Found out the supposed rule she was making a big deal about wasn't a rule at all. She wouldn't let my oldest bring her sax on the bus. Told her she had to leave it at school. She couldn't practice, her band grade was suffering, and she was feeling publicly humiliated every time her teacher asked her to play the assigned music. After I forced the witch to stop that nonsense, she just got meaner. So I'm not surprised she started right in again. But she has the power to make things very difficult on our family. Our school is quick to kick kids off the bus, for minor infractions IMO, and we need that bus ride. I prayed for a different bus driver this year, but it didn't happen. Trust me, those folks at that school know me very well. I've had my share of meetings about their BS. Probably a direct result of having a parent myself who believed teachers were never wrong and never took my side even though I had very few issues. But, I believe you gotta' pick your battles. Nevertheless I did call the school immediately upon hearing about their "pre-emptive measures", not that it really got me anywhere.
  • treehugnmama
    treehugnmama Posts: 816 Member
    I eat something till I'm tired of it then never eat it again. I don't mean to but I do. I'm on concerta xr and it has worked great for me for 5 years. I also feel "normal" on the rays I take it. When I don't I just feel like I'm spinning round and round without focus....it is extremely frustrating. Kind of like brain fog. I have one child with adhd and he doesn't have behaviour issues but focus is a real real struggle. He is so much happier on meds. Him and I are so much alike. We drive the two non adhd family members in our house crazy with our singing and humming and impulses but we have fun!!!!

    My son has eaten scrambled eggs almost daily for a year. shell got a small piece of shell and no longer eats eggs. If I see that little white thing in the yolk (I think it's the baby???) I can't eat eggs for weeks. Much better with the brain fog since giving up sugar and wheat.

    My son had a teacher that said adhd isn't real he just needs to focus....I schooled her
  • aserrano79
    aserrano79 Posts: 36 Member
    Yes all those people who think adhd isn't real need to follow me around for a day. By the end they would be believers!:)
  • dmariet116
    dmariet116 Posts: 530 Member
    Such an interesting thread. I have always felt overwhelmed by to do lists like if I don't know where to start...I just don't. Nothing gets done and I avoid it until I HAVE to do it. I can't focus on a movie unless I am in a theater and nothing else is distracting me. My day to day feels like someone is channel surfing non stop, and I just really want to get my hand on the remote and stop it...
    I have never been diagnosed with anything but depression. Unfortunately AD's didn't work at all. Just made me sleepy and sick.
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