Energy
1234usmc
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Before I get bashed, I am not in ketosis. My carbs are under 100 and some days really low but I have never committed to ketosis. I bake with almond flour and eat a lot of cauliflower and salad. I occasionally eat one french fry or chip if my wife has them. But i do stop at 1.I have been low carb for over a year now and still have no energy or endurance. . I have upped my salt and magnesium and potasium. My question is, do you have to be in ketosis and burning ketones to have any energy or is there a away to just be low carb and still be able to run a 5k or 10k?
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Being under 100 you're probably in ketosis most of the time. How much have you increased your sodium? There's no reason you should have no energy just by that level of carbs, so there is something else going on. How many calories, fat and protein are you getting?2
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Everything that I have ever read, indicates that for good physical performance, the grey area is pretty bad. You either was to be in keto, or consuming enough carbs to fuel your workouts. The upper tier of low-carb seems to work just fine for those who just desire to lose weight (or maintain), but aren't seeking any kind of high end physical performance.
This phenomenon is pretty well known among the powerlifting and bodybuilding communities who often use low-carb (but not keto) dieting to cut weight for comps. They always report feeling like total *kitten* during these periods, whereas those who run keto or CKD constantly have few to no issues with it.2 -
I was running regularly up to five miles every other day eating 80-100 g carbs a day and felt fantastic. If you are already adapted which you should be after a year, there should be no reason you can't eat at that level and have energy, provided your fueling yourself with enough other fuel to sustain your level of activity. If you are consistently at that level of carbs and that high of an activity level you will be in ketosis.1
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I have never tested to see if I am in ketosis or not. I figure I eat to much protein too. I have been trying to eat less protein and more fat. It's hard to add fat sometimes. My lunch yesterday was a bag of pork rinds0
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Give this a read and see if it applies. You could be keeping yourself in a funky limbo without realizing it. I'll admit up front that the article is advocating for a supplement (interestingly, one that's exogenus ketones), but it actually links to a buttload of non-partisan studies to back up all of his claims. http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2016/07/the-competitor-and-ketoos.html
The section headed with "Those on keto diets and those not" is the important part.0 -
I'll give it a read, thx0
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Wow, that sounds like great stuff but the price is crazy. Even if it worked as advertised, which could afford to stay on it? That's a shame .0
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Wow, that sounds like great stuff but the price is crazy. Even if it worked as advertised, which could afford to stay on it? That's a shame .
I wasn't so much advocating for the supplement, as stating that you might find your situation turned around if you dipped yourself fully into keto, instead of trying to tiptoe that middle ground. That supplement is something I'd only probably recommend for someone who wants the carbs to support insulin spikes for muscle growth, but also wants the ketones for fueling the brain. Either that, or exactly what he is talking about: people who are contest prepping.1 -
I am stuck in that gray area, not wanting to commit to ketosis but desperately needing energy........0
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I do great in the gray area as long as I keep my electrolytes up. It's astonishing how much I need to supplement though.
Take a hard look at your electrolytes.0 -
Maybe try more sodium snd magnesium supplementation.
Also, what are your fat sources? Are you eating vegetable and seed oils?0 -
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Dragonwolf wrote: »
That's kind of what I was wondering, but tried working the subtle hints route. Let's see if a direct answer makes more sense.
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Why is because I still enjoy a fry or chip off my wifes plate. I bake but use almond flour. I eat cualiflower instead of potatoes. While I understand ketosis, I haven't embraced the food choices totally. I have recently tried to cut back on my protein a little and use coconut oil in my eggs. I used to start everyday with a protein shake, now I make 3 scrambled eggs. Thats why I say I am in a gray area. I am low carb but not keto. My family has been supportive but they have no intention on being in ketosis. My daughter is a vegiterian, so we are pretty much opposites. I am not lethargic by any stretch, I just dont have endurance while running. I take ZMA supplements and I try to salt my food. What other supplements would you recommend?0
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Why is because I still enjoy a fry or chip off my wifes plate. I bake but use almond flour. I eat cualiflower instead of potatoes. While I understand ketosis, I haven't embraced the food choices totally. I have recently tried to cut back on my protein a little and use coconut oil in my eggs. I used to start everyday with a protein shake, now I make 3 scrambled eggs. Thats why I say I am in a gray area. I am low carb but not keto. My family has been supportive but they have no intention on being in ketosis. My daughter is a vegiterian, so we are pretty much opposites. I am not lethargic by any stretch, I just dont have endurance while running. I take ZMA supplements and I try to salt my food. What other supplements would you recommend?
Have you tried drinking some salt water before running. I still think you are likely creating a good amount of ketones most of the time given the description of how you eat and that you exercise.0 -
I haven't but I will try that in the morning. thx0
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I haven't but I will try that in the morning. thx
Let us know how it turns out. I can always tell if I didn't put enough sodium/potassium in my PWO, because I'll start dragging like hell about 45 minutes into a lifting session. If I keep pushing beyond that, it gets pretty miserable pretty quick.0 -
I appreciate the advice, I will post back here after my run/lift.0
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Try a high caprylic acid MCT oil like MiCKeyT 8 or Brain Octane for a boost of ketones for their energy benefits. You will have to start slow with it because it can upset your stomach. Maybe try 1 teaspoon to start and if all is well then double that the next time.
Even your high carb family could make ketones if taking this particular dosage of caprylic acid.
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Just got back from my 3.1 mile jog/walk. I did feel a little better today and ran a little more. Dont know if it was the extra salt or cooler temps, but I felt good today. I tried coconut oil before running a few weeks ago. On an empty stomach, not pretty. I'll look up the MICKey, thx1
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Just got back from my 3.1 mile jog/walk. I did feel a little better today and ran a little more. Dont know if it was the extra salt or cooler temps, but I felt good today. I tried coconut oil before running a few weeks ago. On an empty stomach, not pretty. I'll look up the MICKey, thx
It was likely a combination of both. You upped your sodium intake, and would have lost less via perspiration due to lower ambient temperature, assuming all else was equal.1
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