Thanks For Advice... Questions Though
collegefbfan
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Okay, so weigh-in was today, and I am down 3 more pounds. I can't believe it after the weekend I had last weekend. Cheated kind of on a lot of keto foods and desserts. But anyways, down to 240 now.
The things I can't believe are this:
So, when I go see my doctor in November and have my tests done, my blood pressure, A1C, cholesterol, etc. should be fine???
Another poster had a thread about how his/her panels were great after doing the LCHF plan for a few months. Is this really possible?
A lot of people I work with are saying, hey you are losing weight but eating all this fat. What about your heart? I don't have a great answer. Any ideas???
Thanks peeps.
The things I can't believe are this:
So, when I go see my doctor in November and have my tests done, my blood pressure, A1C, cholesterol, etc. should be fine???
Another poster had a thread about how his/her panels were great after doing the LCHF plan for a few months. Is this really possible?
A lot of people I work with are saying, hey you are losing weight but eating all this fat. What about your heart? I don't have a great answer. Any ideas???
Thanks peeps.
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The connection between heart disease and dietary fat has been proven as being wrong. Even the NIH has recognized this so it's not really a debate at this point. The only people still arguing that connection are uninformed. Just like anything else in life, I ignore uninformed opinions.2
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hey @collegefbfan, you should read this:
http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007(14)00332-3/fulltext
Sounds as if you are either T2 or pre-diabetic, so this is a vital read for you. It does get a bit technical in places. I know I had to google some of the terms as I went through it, but it is something everyone, especially diabetics, pre-diabetics and those with any type of insulin resistance should read.
Even just looking at the charts and graphs will get you a pretty good understanding of the basic info.1 -
I have a friend on here and who I personally have known for years that dropped around 165 lbs and reversed her health problems adopting this WOE. I had my doubts too, but when you watch it happen right before your eyes, it makes you a believer. Try to read the Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald to understand the science behind it. I'm working on becoming an Occupational Therapist so I have a strong background well-rounded in science and health science and everything I've read from him makes sense from the knowledge I have attained.0
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what makes me sound type 2 diabetic or pre diabetic????? I was asking what if1
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collegefbfan wrote: »what makes me sound type 2 diabetic or pre diabetic????? I was asking what if
Maybe because your doctor is monitoring your A1c?1 -
just that you mentioned A1c test. Prior to being diagnosed last year, I had no idea what that was and most people I have talked to that are not either pre- or diabetic knew what it was either when I mentioned it.1
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collegefbfan wrote: »what makes me sound type 2 diabetic or pre diabetic????? I was asking what if
I was wondering the same.....0 -
my doctor did that test like 8 years ago.. or at least mentioned it... they didn't check it recently though... sorry I should have probably mentioned that... what would make a doctor check a1c? I thought they would all check it just to be safe0
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collegefbfan wrote: »my doctor did that test like 8 years ago.. or at least mentioned it... they didn't check it recently though... sorry I should have probably mentioned that... what would make a doctor check a1c? I thought they would all check it just to be safe
In my case, my doctor checks my A1C when I have my annual physical because I have a strong family history (including both parents) going back multiple generations. Fortunately, my levels have been fine but my youngest brother who is almost 12 years younger than me has already had high blood sugars and his doctor wanted to put him on meds. Fortunately, he took it seriously and through diet and exercise was able to lower his levels and two years plus later he's not had to go on meds. His high sugars were a wake up call for me to lose weight despite my sugar levels being okay.
In addition to family history, doctors will often check A1C if you have signs of insulin resistance or have documented metabolic syndrome.0 -
A fasting blood sugar that's above normal would lead a physician to check A1c level.collegefbfan wrote: »what makes me sound type 2 diabetic or pre diabetic????? I was asking what if
In your original post it sounded like you were anxious to see of LCHF could improve your numbers too. Was my original impression. It's great that you aren't! I wasn't either even though I have a strong family history too.
LCHF has the ability to reverse many disorders of the human body. Carbs are doing more damage to people than they could ever realize! Until they're eliminated people won't be able to see the difference!
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Thanks for the advice. All the folks I work with say its still the fats. One guy in particular said that there is no way he would ever eat bacon again, much less bacon and cheese combo.1
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collegefbfan wrote: »my doctor did that test like 8 years ago.. or at least mentioned it... they didn't check it recently though... sorry I should have probably mentioned that... what would make a doctor check a1c? I thought they would all check it just to be safe
As far as I'm familiar, they wouldn't check A1c or fasting blood glucose without being suspicious of metabolic issues. Maybe sudden weight gain or some other symptom at some time made him wonder.
Also, in some experiences I'm familiar with, they may even report that your A1c is "normal" and nothing to worry about when it is in fact showing evidence of insulin resistance. The standards are just too lax and people aren't even aware they do have signs of it very early on when it can be corrected so much more easily.
Keep in mind that 1 in 3 Americans are insulin resistant according to CDC 2014 statistics. 90% of them are probably completely unaware. (Made up number from my noggin).
I'm even starting to think I was and that's a big part of what drove my candy addiction. I think I may have been right in the beginnings of developing it. A few more years of that may have lead to hypo episodes and continued to progress as I got older. I'm so glad I realized my candy habit was a problem even though I wasn't fully aware of what it could've become.
Edited to say that 90% is apparently not a made up number from my noggin as this chart actually says so much...1 -
Also, wouldn't it be nice if they mentioned that it could be completely prevented by adopting a low carb lifestyle? Instead of this somewhat hopeless statement...
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To my knowledge doctors usually look at cholesterol numbers to predict potential heart problems. Since beginning eating keto in early August my numbers for this has improved in all areas except HDL. My A1C is also down .2. Blood pressure remains controlled on medication. Other autoimmune issues are also improved. I only eat meat, fat, and salt. For many people this is the best WOE to be at optimal health. Finally, I think any weight loss puts less strain on the heart.
Cheating with keto is not cheating! Neither are low carb desserts within reason...
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A1C's can be a decent indicator, but if you have a blow out and spike your blood sugar, the A1C could show higher than should. I've been logging my BG readings each time I test so I can use that more of a gauge. I'm still higher in the am than elsewhere in the day, so trying to take that into account.1
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Darn right!collegefbfan wrote: »my doctor did that test like 8 years ago.. or at least mentioned it... they didn't check it recently though... sorry I should have probably mentioned that... what would make a doctor check a1c? I thought they would all check it just to be safe.
A single, fasting glucose test is a medieval way to test for diabetes. A lot of us T2Ds will have low (well, "normal") fasting BG after a 12-hour fast - but how much of our lives do we spend in that kind of fasting state?
Given the statistics, like the numbers cited by @Sunny_Bunny_ (aka, Salty_Bunny_ ....), one should expect any annual physical to include an A1c test for anyone over 30 or so. It is a heck of a lot cheaper to prevent and manage metabolic syndrome than to treat the cavalcade of conditions people with T2D are more likely to develop. Even insurance companies are liberalizing diabetes testing and education coverage......
Of course, an A1C test itself is a poor substitute for the real thing:A1C's can be a decent indicator, but if you have a blow out and spike your blood sugar, the A1C could show higher than should. I've been logging my BG readings each time I test so I can use that more of a gauge. I'm still higher in the am than elsewhere in the day, so trying to take that into account.
Here's a thoughtful article, How to use your blood glucose meter as a fuel gauge.
(FWIW, if my BG is higher than I think it should be, I'll restrict myself to high-fat food only - like macadamia nuts .... mmmmm! - till it comes down.)
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