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Low fat AND low carb?
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PaleoInScotland wrote: »JennifrClaire wrote: »I'm trying a compromise. Giving up butter, and replacing full fat yoghurt, cheese, etc with the lower fat types. That sort of thing. Perhaps its not "low fat" but its not high fat, either.
If you're trying to reduce the fat, I'd recommend focusing on leaner cuts of meat instead of saving it on the dairy. The fat in dairy tends to be replaced by carbs, whereas the leaner cuts of meat will just have more protein.
Unfortunately, in my case, not only did I get more carbs per serving when I used to eat fat-free and low-fat dairy products, but I got more servings, too. Dang!
A container of plain, full-fat yogurt now lasts me about twice as long as its LF cousin...
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Im finding this to be true already. Cut back on fat, increase appetite for carbs. Its not sustainable.
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JennifrClaire wrote: »Im finding this to be true already. Cut back on fat, increase appetite for carbs. Its not sustainable.
Welcome back to the dark side
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My cholesterol decreased substantially after going high-fat, low carb.1
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I too am in the same boat. My numbers are really quite good but because my brother has had two heart attacks in his 50's (one after a stress test!), I am in the high risk category and have to drive the LDL down more. Since I am over 60, and the doctor threatened me with medications or diet and I need travel insurance, I have to comply with diet changes, for now.
I have been doing low fat (25% - 30%) and moderate low carb (100g or less daily) for 3 weeks and it is getting easier. I have up the fiber a great deal to keep the net carbs down below 100. Food joy isn't great after high fat but I am gradually getting the hang of less fat with good taste.
I believe the others are correct, your LDL and Total Cholesterol will drop over time. But sometimes we have to do what we have to do.
Good luck! @canadjineh helped me to stop the whining about all the fats I was missing.1 -
ogmomma2012 wrote: »My cholesterol decreased substantially after going high-fat, low carb.
Interesting! Mine did actually go up (along with my HDL). So far still in a healthy range.0 -
Our bodies use cholesterol to make bile, our bodies make cholesterol as well as using what we take in from food. Soluble fiber is what helps really lower cholesterol. It binds with bile and takes it out of the body so it does not recirculate, the body then uses more cholesterol to make more bile. Brussels sprouts are great for soluble fiber, as well as many other vegetables. Try to get as much soluble fiber as possible, a little at each meal. Here is a soluble fiber calculator. I use it all the time. It's a little strange though the way they have it set up. Say you choose broccoli, it has a serving of broccoli set at 1/2 a cup. If you add a cup of broccoli to the calculator you add it as 2 servings. I don't understand the odd serving sizes in the thing but it does help. You could just enter your food either at each meal or at the end of the day to see how much soluble fiber you're getting. globalrph.com/fiber_content_soluble.htm2
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Thanks for the calculator! @ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken2
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You have had lots of advice here, but I didn't see this one... I recommend getting a second opinion. Find a health care provider with experience in the most up to date nutritional information. Many MDs do not have good or recent training on nutrition and are operating from outdated data. I am an integrative/holistic nurse in the US, and I am sure you can find someone with the experience you need to give you a holistic picture of your best strategy for taking care of your body!5
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High cholesterol isn't necessarily bad.
Without knowing the exact break down I personally wouldn't change a thing.3 -
This is really good advice I think. A qualified second opinion would give you chance to talk through some of the ideas here.redtortoise wrote: »You have had lots of advice here, but I didn't see this one... I recommend getting a second opinion.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »High cholesterol isn't necessarily bad.
Without knowing the exact break down I personally wouldn't change a thing.
Yes! What part is HDL and what part is LDL! Great point!0 -
@dasher602014 You're welcome!
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I'm doing Dukan, which is high protein and low fat w/ veggies and oat bran.
I seem to like it better than Atkins because of:
- the oat bran: I really enjoy my daily oat bran muffin (tastes a bit like corn bread), and
- goji berries = candy, not that I'm craving any,
- and tons of veggies on my protein-veggie days.
It's only Day 17, so we'll see how this goes. I love how I haven't had any cravings!
I haven't gotten my blood works done yet. I have high cholesterol (but almost good ratio because my HDL is very high).
I want to see what my numbers are after losing 25#.
Would love a diet buddy!
Amanda
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What do you see as "tons of veggies"? (I'm a veggie lover).I'm doing Dukan, which is high protein and low fat w/ veggies and oat bran.
I seem to like it better than Atkins because of:
- the oat bran: I really enjoy my daily oat bran muffin (tastes a bit like corn bread), and
- goji berries = candy, not that I'm craving any,
- and tons of veggies on my protein-veggie days.
It's only Day 17, so we'll see how this goes. I love how I haven't had any cravings!
I haven't gotten my blood works done yet. I have high cholesterol (but almost good ratio because my HDL is very high).
I want to see what my numbers are after losing 25#.
Would love a diet buddy!
Amanda
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I'm going to throw another idea in here: South Beach Diet and other low glycemic impact approaches.
Lean proteins, high fiber vegetables and later grains, nuts and seeds, dairy. Not low carb. Not low fat. But lower on saturated fats, and low on nutrient poor, low fiber carbs.
It's basically how I eat. It's "slow carb, low crap, no carbage."
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^^^^ I like thatSabine_Stroehm wrote: »What do you see as "tons of veggies"? (I'm a veggie lover).
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It's basically how I eat. It's "slow carb, low crap, no carbage."
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I think it's a good amount of veggies, especially compared to just the pure protein days.
This was my lunch on Saturday:
- grilled lime shrimp with arugula, cherry tomato, and broccoli.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »High cholesterol isn't necessarily bad.
Without knowing the exact break down I personally wouldn't change a thing.
True. In women especially, low cholesterol is more of a health problem than higher cholesterol.
My triglycerides tend to be too low. It always worried me.1 -
^^^^ I like thatSabine_Stroehm wrote: »What do you see as "tons of veggies"? (I'm a veggie lover).
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It's basically how I eat. It's "slow carb, low crap, no carbage."
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I think it's a good amount of veggies, especially compared to just the pure protein days.
This was my lunch on Saturday:
- grilled lime shrimp with arugula, cherry tomato, and broccoli.
Looks like an Atkins amount of veggies. And MAN that looks delicious!!
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^^^^ I like thatSabine_Stroehm wrote: »What do you see as "tons of veggies"? (I'm a veggie lover).
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It's basically how I eat. It's "slow carb, low crap, no carbage."
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I think it's a good amount of veggies, especially compared to just the pure protein days.
This was my lunch on Saturday:
- grilled lime shrimp with arugula, cherry tomato, and broccoli.
My macros fall under LCHF and my dinners often look like that, I just sauté the veg in some olive or coconut oil to get the fat (though I do occasionally use duck fat too, my cholesterol is super low, so I'm not stressed about it) and I keep the meat portion to a minimum to avoid excessive protein. My lunch is a salad most days, but I avoid the low fat dressings as they tend to have too much sugar and I stick with full fat dairy. There are plenty of healthy fat options if you're concerned about cholesterol. We don't all dump butter in our coffee lol, though I do use it to scramble my eggs 2
