Your thoughts on this article: low-carb or keto diet results in more fat cells

huango

Your thoughts on this old article (Oct 17, 2014)?

http://www.artenediana.com/en/dukan-diet-simplest-way-gain-fat/

If I read this article correctly, it seems to say that:
- low-carb or keto diet results in more fat cells, so when you do add carbs back into your diet, you gain weight faster because there's more fat cells to fill up.




I'm on Day 12 of the Dukan Diet, mainly because I have problems with self-control when it comes to carbs.
If I eat a little sugary/starchy carbs, I want more and more of it.
So I decided to try Dukan Diet (which allows veggies and oat bran) to lose 20# and to get off of my carbs-addiction.

Also looking for Dukan Diet buddy.

Thanks,
Amanda

AshStout83

I sure hope it's not true.

cstehansen

Here are my initial thoughts after reading most of the article:

1) I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who doesn't even have someone proof read what they write well enough to make it not look like it was written by a 3rd grader. The misspellings, poor grammar, etc. is crazy bad.

2) There are clear inaccuracies such as, "Dukan diet decreases weight only by dehydration." This is clearly impossible given there are people who have lost over 100 lbs. I have heard of water retention, but seriously?

3) The claim that reducing carbs "aggravates or generates insulin resistance" is blatantly false. Please see this link for an in depth look at why LC is the best option for diabetics - http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007(14)00332-3/fulltext - unlike the link you have, this is a well documented meta-analysis of dozens of medical studies over many years. It is also a peer reviewed study in a medical journal and not just some website that was put up by someone with an agenda.

Sabine_Stroehm

I think it's pure conjecture. I wouldn't let it sway you, given that 90% of ALL dieters, regardless of approach gain the weight back.

That said, the Dukan diet has a notoriously high recidivism rate (if I can use that word). I don't know exactly why, perhaps because it's so rigid.

Also, keep in mind, Atkins and other low carb diets allow for (REQUIRE vegetables). South Beach (not really a low carb diet) requires vegetables and allows fruit and whole grains.

Many low carbers here (most?) eat plenty of vegetables.

My point: if you start feeling alone on dukan, and/or start thinking it's not possible there are other options among formal diets.

Good luck regardless! And you've found a good community here.

kpk54

Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »

90% of ALL dieters, regardless of approach gain the weight back.

Agreed. And would add that leptin/grehlin research seems to be on the increase now and my guess is that it will ultimately be shown that those hormones are "thrown out of whack" for every sort of sustained and rapid weight loss and the "diet plan" is irrelevant.

kmn118

@huango I can't speak for anyone else, but my white carb and sugar addiction is what brought me to T2D and heart disease. Any attempt to kick the habit is a great first step and, if you read the medical information and studies on the low carb lifestyle, you will find a wide RANGE of low carb lifestyles that work for different individuals. We are each unique in ways that makes a single approach to recovery and wellness and weight loss inappropriate. In fact, a single approach for each person is a rarity, as we all tweak and change and experiment with what works for our own singular bodies. Good Luck!

Brigit723

I don't know anything about the Dukan Diet but this article lost me at low carb aggravating insulin or creating insulin resistance. That's insane and already proven false. Carbs are the first thing your body turns into glucose. I'm insulin resistant, I eat Keto, my endocrinologist is thrilled that I started Keto, my numbers improved after only two weeks.

GaleHawkins

Even if the article was remotely correct it does not concern me since I have no plans of filling my fat cells with fat ever again. I react very badly for weeks from one carb loading event.

I had a birthday lunch to attend today. They had a guacamole salad that was only guacamole, cheese, tomato and cheese. It was awesome with water to drink. I will eat it again if I wind up at that Mexican restaurant again.

Where there is a way there is a will or the other way around.
I had eaten a LCHF breakfast late in case I had to only drink water.

Midnightgypsy0

I don't know if I will ever lose the 50 pounds I'm carrying around. But I do know that I will always be limiting my carbs.
Feel a lot better.

I'm under 75 every day and try to stay around 20.
GF loves to cook starches so I end up high whenever she cooks. (Or have an angry girlfriend because I wouldn't eat her cooking. And that is harder to deal with than that 50 pounds. Lol)

Gallowmere1984

Dukan is an extremely protein heavy diet. Given the large insulin spikes caused by whey this doesn't shock me at all. When the stuff gets mobilized it has two options; go for muscle repair or get stored as fat. Guess where it goes if you don't have muscular damage that needs repaired. All the more reason to leave the high-pro diets to people who are wrecking their bodies all of the time. Though, the slower proteins (casien and egg) don't cause much of a spike at all.

retirehappy

huango wrote: »

Your thoughts on this old article (Oct 17, 2014)?

http://www.artenediana.com/en/dukan-diet-simplest-way-gain-fat/

If I read this article correctly, it seems to say that:
- low-carb or keto diet results in more fat cells, so when you do add carbs back into your diet, you gain weight faster because there's more fat cells to fill up.




I'm on Day 12 of the Dukan Diet, mainly because I have problems with self-control when it comes to carbs.
If I eat a little sugary/starchy carbs, I want more and more of it.
So I decided to try Dukan Diet (which allows veggies and oat bran) to lose 20# and to get off of my carbs-addiction.

Also looking for Dukan Diet buddy.

Thanks,
Amanda

This is pretty informative info about fat cells, turns out you can grow them, they can die off, etc. Kinda like any other cell in your body, since they are cells. Fat cells just do a great job fulfilling their function of storing fat.

http://news.health.ufl.edu/2011/15154/multimedia/health-in-a-heartbeat/adults-can-grow-new-fat-cells-after-all-study-shows/

Personally I eat a lot of green veggies and cauliflower etc., a moderate amount of protein, and high fat, started Atkins recently since that is how they eat after the induction weeks.

Dukan is pretty protein heavy if you are over eating protein your breath will tell everyone around you (keto breath), and you should cut back a bit on it. Otherwise go for it. The best diet is the one you can follow for long term.

huango

Thank you for your inputs.

I just read retirehappy's link.
While I'm not diabetic, I'll keep it in mind for my husband (it runs in his family).


"The best diet is the one you can follow for long term."
It's only Day14 of the Dukan, but wow, it's been the easiest and best diet I've ever been on, and I've been on many.

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>>>>>>The best part is my lack of cravings for carbs.

I made meatball subs for my husband and kids for dinner. Not one bite of the delicious smelling bread. I thought about it, but didn't need to give into my thought.
That's what it was: a thought. Not a craving or mad need that made me feel deprived when I didn't eat.

When I don't crave carbs, I'm not reaching for crap from my 3 pantries.


But the test will be tonight at my BBQ.
While I'm making smoked salmon and ribs and big bowl of salad (arugula/tomato/cuc/chicken breast), my guests are bringing tons of goodies.
Let's see how I do.

Thanks,
Amanda

Gallowmere1984

huango wrote: »

Thank you for your inputs.

I just read retirehappy's link.
While I'm not diabetic, I'll keep it in mind for my husband (it runs in his family).


"The best diet is the one you can follow for long term."
It's only Day14 of the Dukan, but wow, it's been the easiest and best diet I've ever been on, and I've been on many.

---

>>>>>>The best part is my lack of cravings for carbs.

I made meatball subs for my husband and kids for dinner. Not one bite of the delicious smelling bread. I thought about it, but didn't need to give into my thought.
That's what it was: a thought. Not a craving or mad need that made me feel deprived when I didn't eat.

When I don't crave carbs, I'm not reaching for crap from my 3 pantries.


But the test will be tonight at my BBQ.
While I'm making smoked salmon and ribs and big bowl of salad (arugula/tomato/cuc/chicken breast), my guests are bringing tons of goodies.
Let's see how I do.

Thanks,
Amanda

Personally, just from the ribs alone, I'd be able to easily ignore everything else.

huango

Gallowmere1984 wrote: »

Personally, just from the ribs alone, I'd be able to easily ignore everything else.

Just for you:



But we are pretty famous for our smoked salmon also:

MyriiStorm

"The problem with the Dukan diet, or with any ketogenic diet for that matter, is not if you will fall off, but when."

I have to take exception to the above statement. We refer to our "WOE" (Way of Eating), not our "diet," for a reason. Diets are temporary, and yes, if/when you stop the "diet" and go back to your old eating habits, of course you end up regaining the weight you lost, and often much more. But once you adopt a low-carb WOE, it really isn't that difficult to maintain long term.

cstehansen

MyriiStorm wrote: »

"The problem with the Dukan diet, or with any ketogenic diet for that matter, is not if you will fall off, but when."

I have to take exception to the above statement. We refer to our "WOE" (Way of Eating), not our "diet," for a reason. Diets are temporary, and yes, if/when you stop the "diet" and go back to your old eating habits, of course you end up regaining the weight you lost, and often much more. But once you adapt a low-carb WOE, it really isn't that difficult to maintain long term.

This is so true. I see no reason to ever go back to how I ate before. Maybe I am the exception to the rule, but I always looked at carbs as a filler or something I was supposed to eat because of how the food pyramid was drilled into my head. After realizing there is no need for them, I see no point in eating them. There are only a handful of carby foods I actually really liked. This is a woe, not a diet.

Shadowmf023

cstehansen wrote: »

MyriiStorm wrote: »

"The problem with the Dukan diet, or with any ketogenic diet for that matter, is not if you will fall off, but when."

I have to take exception to the above statement. We refer to our "WOE" (Way of Eating), not our "diet," for a reason. Diets are temporary, and yes, if/when you stop the "diet" and go back to your old eating habits, of course you end up regaining the weight you lost, and often much more. But once you adapt a low-carb WOE, it really isn't that difficult to maintain long term.

This is so true. I see no reason to ever go back to how I ate before. Maybe I am the exception to the rule, but I always looked at carbs as a filler or something I was supposed to eat because of how the food pyramid was drilled into my head. After realizing there is no need for them, I see no point in eating them. There are only a handful of carby foods I actually really liked. This is a woe, not a diet.

I'll never go back either. I've been taking medication for my digestive issues since I was, like, 6 years old. This WOE has cured me. Why would I CHOOSE to take crummy meds again?

If I do crave something carby, there are so many keto-fied recipes of those things, all it takes is a little time and a little know-how around the kitchen.

My brother's excuse for not wanting to try low carb is because he says it's too much effort. Thats not true. It's as much effort as you make it. I could just as well grab some raw ingredients on this WOE and never do an ounce of cooking. But I CHOOSE to make the effort to cook, because I find it interesting.