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The Hidden Truth Behind Ancel Keys’ Famous Fat Graph

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Sabine_Stroehm
Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,251 Member
edited December 2024 in Social Groups
https://www.dietdoctor.com/the-hidden-truth-behind-ancel-keys-famous-fat-graph

This is awesome to see in a visual. And not surprising in the slightest.

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  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    Exactly why I don't believe any "scientific" studies
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,251 Member
    auntstephie321 wrote: »
    Exactly why I don't believe any "scientific" studies

    Well, I personally wouldn't go that far (my husband is a research scientist, and I'm a humanities researcher), but it sure teaches us a lot about personal bias. And it reminds us why as readers we all need to read the source material whenever possible.
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    Statistics are an interesting thing. If you work hard enough, you can make them "say" whatever you want them to say. This is why it is important not to take them at face value but look at all the underlying data - including who is supplying the statistics and if they have a history of showing bias.
  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
    auntstephie321 wrote: »
    Exactly why I don't believe any "scientific" studies

    Well, I personally wouldn't go that far (my husband is a research scientist, and I'm a humanities researcher), but it sure teaches us a lot about personal bias. And it reminds us why as readers we all need to read the source material whenever possible.

    I'm sure there are unbiased researchers out there, unfortunately things like this seem to happen all the time so there is no way for the public to know what is unbiased or not, therefore I can't trust any of it.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,251 Member
    auntstephie321 wrote: »
    Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »
    auntstephie321 wrote: »
    Exactly why I don't believe any "scientific" studies

    Well, I personally wouldn't go that far (my husband is a research scientist, and I'm a humanities researcher), but it sure teaches us a lot about personal bias. And it reminds us why as readers we all need to read the source material whenever possible.

    I'm sure there are unbiased researchers out there, unfortunately things like this seem to happen all the time so there is no way for the public to know what is unbiased or not, therefore I can't trust any of it.

    ok
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,251 Member
    cstehansen wrote: »
    Statistics are an interesting thing. If you work hard enough, you can make them "say" whatever you want them to say. This is why it is important not to take them at face value but look at all the underlying data - including who is supplying the statistics and if they have a history of showing bias.
    Exactly!
  • kpk54
    kpk54 Posts: 4,474 Member
    Reminds me of something I have heard over the years (with apologies to statisticians) :

    Figures lie and liars figure.
  • kimberwolf71
    kimberwolf71 Posts: 470 Member
    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
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