Lipid Profile Slim Jim Mistake?
Aquawave
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My hubby scheduled his company's Biometrics blood draw and also our doctor's wellness blood draw yesterday. That's 2 different draws in the morning. He went into the doctor's office and before they drew the blood, they asked if he was fasting. No..he had eaten 2 small Slim Jims at 6 the morning. They rescheduled that draw for 1PM, yesterday.
So he proceeds to his office to get his blood drawn there for his companies forced Biometrics program. Rather than reschedule that draw, he went ahead and got it done!!! If he has not improved since last year, they add a surcharge to his insurance.
Last year his lipid profile was great (actually lower than normal and on Statins), but his sugar was around 128. He received 29 bad points from that, as well as 5 negative(good) points for his LDL, 6 bad points for his Triglycerides, One bad for blood pressure. Total Points last year was 31. His (forced by the company) goal this year was to reduce his points by 18 points. Last year was the first time his Trigs were elevated, but he had exercised rather heavily that morning last year in an effort to bring his glucose down. That was a mistake last year. He was determined to not repeat the intensive exercise before testing this year.
So yesterday, at the time of his Biometrics Program's office draw, he did a finger stick and his sugar was 104. So that is awesome; If his lipid profile is not what they define as "bad", he will have met his goals.
My concern, he has been on a Ketogenic diet for 3 months, off his Statins, lost 30 pounds and ate the darn Slim Jims 4 hours before his draw in the office. He did tell the company's phlebotomist afterwards that he was not fasting, but she did not reschedule the Biometrics draw.
What are those Slim Jims going to do to his Lipid Profile? As a former Med Tech, I think the lipids will be elevated and I hope I am wrong. What is his 3 month old LCHF diet going to do? He is actively losing a lot of weight. What do you guys think?
So he proceeds to his office to get his blood drawn there for his companies forced Biometrics program. Rather than reschedule that draw, he went ahead and got it done!!! If he has not improved since last year, they add a surcharge to his insurance.
Last year his lipid profile was great (actually lower than normal and on Statins), but his sugar was around 128. He received 29 bad points from that, as well as 5 negative(good) points for his LDL, 6 bad points for his Triglycerides, One bad for blood pressure. Total Points last year was 31. His (forced by the company) goal this year was to reduce his points by 18 points. Last year was the first time his Trigs were elevated, but he had exercised rather heavily that morning last year in an effort to bring his glucose down. That was a mistake last year. He was determined to not repeat the intensive exercise before testing this year.
So yesterday, at the time of his Biometrics Program's office draw, he did a finger stick and his sugar was 104. So that is awesome; If his lipid profile is not what they define as "bad", he will have met his goals.
My concern, he has been on a Ketogenic diet for 3 months, off his Statins, lost 30 pounds and ate the darn Slim Jims 4 hours before his draw in the office. He did tell the company's phlebotomist afterwards that he was not fasting, but she did not reschedule the Biometrics draw.
What are those Slim Jims going to do to his Lipid Profile? As a former Med Tech, I think the lipids will be elevated and I hope I am wrong. What is his 3 month old LCHF diet going to do? He is actively losing a lot of weight. What do you guys think?
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Wow. I wish I could answer. I am curious to know the outcome. Based on what I know, when you are losing weight, fat is being broken down and going into your bloodstream, so regardless of fasting or not, it could be elevated just based on that. On the other hand, triglycerides tend to be tied to carb intake which could be improved and HDL generally increases with higher fat in the diet which are both positive.
I think your best bet is to wait and see. Worrying won't help, so just relax. (easier said than done, I know)
Regardless, if he has lost 30 lbs so far, even if this one draw does not have the results desired, you know he is heading in the right direction. @GaleHawkins would be a good person to respond to this.1 -
Eating, period, will affect these numbers. As will anything from the last 3-7 days of eating. @RalfLott seemed to have some interesting ideas on averages and such for confirming cholesterol numbers, but I don't remember if he had any tips for pre-testing.0
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »Eating, period, will affect these numbers. As will anything from the last 3-7 days of eating. @RalfLott seemed to have some interesting ideas on averages and such for confirming cholesterol numbers, but I don't remember if he had any tips for pre-testing.
I agree, until the Establishment changes their out of date concepts of what "healthy" is, we are discriminated against in buying life insurance, jobs requiring physicals, and this BS nonsense of forced company Biometrics Lab Tests which result in higher health insurance premiums. My husbands score is based solely on lab tests and blood pressure, not the weight he has lost.0 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »Eating, period, will affect these numbers. As will anything from the last 3-7 days of eating. @RalfLott seemed to have some interesting ideas on averages and such for confirming cholesterol numbers, but I don't remember if he had any tips for pre-testing.
I agree, until the Establishment changes their out of date concepts of what "healthy" is, we are discriminated against in buying life insurance, jobs requiring physicals, and this BS nonsense of forced company Biometrics Lab Tests which result in higher health insurance premiums. My husbands score is based solely on lab tests and blood pressure, not the weight he has lost.
@Aquawave - the best part about that though, is that as he continues to lose weight and gain health, those numbers will improve!0 -
As someone who has experienced healthcare in both the US and Canada it infuriates me that we're at a point where companies are assigning points based on lipid profiles. It shouldn't be anyone's business but his on what his sugar levels are at. It's a product of the US healthcare system and companies trying to save money.. but it puts regular people like us through such a ringer. I am pretty sure I was denied extra coverage I wanted because I listed that I had gestational diabetes on one of my forms. I don't even have it anymore, I had my child over 3 years ago
Anyway, all that being said, he told the company he was not fasting and there's a higher range of expectations with blood draws when someone isn't fasting.
Normal Blood Sugars
A normal fasting (no food for eight hours) blood sugar level is between 70 and 99 mg/dL
A normal blood sugar level two hours after eating is less than 140 mg/dL
Diabetes is diagnosed by any one of the following:
Two consecutive fasting blood glucose tests that are equal to or greater than 126 mg/dL
Any random blood glucose that is greater than 200 mg/dL
An A1c test that is equal to or greater than 6.5 percent. A1c is an easy blood test that gives a three month average of blood sugars
A two-hour oral glucose tolerance test with any value over 200 mg/dL
https://www.virginiamason.org/whatarenormalbloodglucoselevels1 -
Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.3 -
Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
That was my triglyceride and HDL levels two years ago pre LCHF. Now triglycerides are at 36 and HDL is at 63 so hopefully time is on his side health wise to lower his insurance cost.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
That was my triglyceride and HDL levels two years ago pre LCHF. Now triglycerides are at 36 and HDL is at 63 so hopefully time is on his side health wise to lower his insurance cost.
I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.3 -
Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
How do those numbers compare to the last tests he did? Have the trygs increased a lot? One of my most dramatic changes in lab results was the lowering of triglycerides and I think that's common when going LCHF or Keto.
But the high numbers could be from the Slim Jims, that's mostly protein and fat, right? It will be interesting to see the difference in the tests.
I would ask to redo the test fasted or at least to officially add to the results the info that he was not in a fasted state, since it will probably have repercussions in his premiums and be forever in his health history.
::flowerforyou::
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I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.
He was probably right about that. My BG is always lower after breakfast than it was before.
He'll get much better, next year no tricks will be needed to have great results!
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KetoGirl_ZC wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
How do those numbers compare to the last tests he did? Have the trygs increased a lot? One of my most dramatic changes in lab results was the lowering of triglycerides and I think that's common when going LCHF or Keto.
But the high numbers could be from the Slim Jims, that's mostly protein and fat, right? It will be interesting to see the difference in the tests.
I would ask to redo the test fasted or at least to officially add to the results the info that he was not in a fasted state, since it will probably have repercussions in his premiums and be forever in his health history.
::flowerforyou::
Last year he went on the treadmill and exercised his heart out before the Biometrics draw, Hard excercise increased his triglycerides to 216 for the 2015 Biometrics test. Last Spring, at his Endo's office, his triglycerides were 111 while on Statins. We have no idea what they are in a truly fasting state without the Statins. The wellness visit, I hope will show dramatically good results. He will be calling for a redo.1 -
KetoGirl_ZC wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
How do those numbers compare to the last tests he did? Have the trygs increased a lot? One of my most dramatic changes in lab results was the lowering of triglycerides and I think that's common when going LCHF or Keto.
But the high numbers could be from the Slim Jims, that's mostly protein and fat, right? It will be interesting to see the difference in the tests.
I would ask to redo the test fasted or at least to officially add to the results the info that he was not in a fasted state, since it will probably have repercussions in his premiums and be forever in his health history.
::flowerforyou::
Last year he went on the treadmill and exercised his heart out before the Biometrics draw, Hard excercise increased his triglycerides to 216 for the 2015 Biometrics test. Last Spring, at his Endo's office, his triglycerides were 111 while on Statins. We have no idea what they are in a truly fasting state without the Statins. The wellness visit, I hope will show dramatically good results. He will be calling for a redo.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
That was my triglyceride and HDL levels two years ago pre LCHF. Now triglycerides are at 36 and HDL is at 63 so hopefully time is on his side health wise to lower his insurance cost.
I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.
I agree with him on him on the Slim Jims lowering his BG level thinking. 30 minutes after I eat a low carb breakfast my BG has dropped as much as 10 points.
Seeing the other lab results will be interesting but keep in my numbers can greatly vary from lab to lab too.
Keep in mind his net health is improving with the weight loss that should show up in the lab results over time. In the meantime losing weight can really mess up the numbers.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
That was my triglyceride and HDL levels two years ago pre LCHF. Now triglycerides are at 36 and HDL is at 63 so hopefully time is on his side health wise to lower his insurance cost.
I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.
I agree with him on him on the Slim Jims lowering his BG level thinking. 30 minutes after I eat a low carb breakfast my BG has dropped as much as 10 points.
Seeing the other lab results will be interesting but keep in my numbers can greatly vary from lab to lab too.
Keep in mind his net health is improving with the weight loss that should show up in the lab results over time. In the meantime losing weight can really mess up the numbers.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »Well, here are the results from the Company's Biometrics:
Results Normals
Glucose 106 (65-95) Great for Him!!!!
Triglyceride- 223 (0-149) Horrible
HDL 37 (>39) Slightly below normal
VLDL 45 (5-40) Slightly above normal
LDL 104 (0-99) Slightly above normal
I hope they give him a redo, nowhere does the report mention that he was not fasting. Looks like increased health insurance premiums for us. I despise that the company can do this to him after 40 years of service.
It will be interesting to compare the results are from his doctor's office where he had an 8 hour fasting wellness tests.
That was my triglyceride and HDL levels two years ago pre LCHF. Now triglycerides are at 36 and HDL is at 63 so hopefully time is on his side health wise to lower his insurance cost.
I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.
I agree with him on him on the Slim Jims lowering his BG level thinking. 30 minutes after I eat a low carb breakfast my BG has dropped as much as 10 points.
Seeing the other lab results will be interesting but keep in my numbers can greatly vary from lab to lab too.
Keep in mind his net health is improving with the weight loss that should show up in the lab results over time. In the meantime losing weight can really mess up the numbers.
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KetoGirl_ZC wrote: »(...)
I blame the Slim Jims for this. We had a huge argument about this since he thought by eating Slim Jims it would reduce his glucose?!!!!! WTF? He thought it would lower his Sunrise Phenomenon, never mind that he did not think that it would hurt his lipids, since he has been concentrating on keeping his glucose lower for the last three month.
I pray everyday that his health will continue to improve. He used to be well over 300 pounds, now he's 240. This diet is awesome and so is he.
He was probably right about that. My BG is always lower after breakfast than it was before.
He'll get much better, next year no tricks will be needed to have great results!
::flowerforyou::
Maybe next time swap the slim jim for bacon and eggs so he doesn't kill his lipid panel. Poor guy, he meant well!0 -
Here is the rest of the story. These are the results from his 1:30 draw at his GP's office. Fasting now for 7.5 hours.
Glucose: 77 Normal
Total Cholesterol: 182 Normal
Triglycerides: 104 Normal
HDL Chol: 42 Normal
VLDL Chol: 21 Normal
LDL Chol: 119 A little bit high (0-99 being normal)
These are totally different results from the earlier draw, which did not pass his company's healthy metrics initiative, but he will not have to pay the penalty premium since his doctor wrote a letter saying that he is under treatment and sent them the correct test results. We have all learned an important lesson; Do not eat before getting a lipid profile.
Due to these results and the weight he has lost, our endocrinologist has passed him back to our primary care physician for his diabetic care. His weight yesterday was 232 lbs. We had to buy him new clothes this past weekends. He's 65. Hooray for him and this diet!!8 -
Here is the rest of the story. These are the results from his 1:30 draw at his GP's office. Fasting now for 7.5 hours.
Glucose: 77 Normal
Total Cholesterol: 182 Normal
Triglycerides: 104 Normal
HDL Chol: 42 Normal
VLDL Chol: 21 Normal
LDL Chol: 119 A little bit high (0-99 being normal)
These are totally different results from the earlier draw, which did not pass his company's healthy metrics initiative, but he will not have to pay the penalty premium since his doctor wrote a letter saying that he is under treatment and sent them the correct test results. We have all learned an important lesson; Do not eat before getting a lipid profile.
Due to these results and the weight he has lost, our endocrinologist has passed him back to our primary care physician for his diabetic care. His weight yesterday was 232 lbs. We had to buy him new clothes this past weekends. He's 65. Hooray for him and this diet!!
I am not sure why yesterday's post did not move up to Nov 5th from Oct 4th. Technical issues with MFP? Thought it would be of some interest.0 -
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cuz MFP is being teh dumb as per the usual.1 -
My hubby scheduled his company's Biometrics blood draw and also our doctor's wellness blood draw yesterday. That's 2 different draws in the morning. He went into the doctor's office and before they drew the blood, they asked if he was fasting. No..he had eaten 2 small Slim Jims at 6 the morning. They rescheduled that draw for 1PM, yesterday.
So he proceeds to his office to get his blood drawn there for his companies forced Biometrics program. Rather than reschedule that draw, he went ahead and got it done!!! If he has not improved since last year, they add a surcharge to his insurance.
Last year his lipid profile was great (actually lower than normal and on Statins), but his sugar was around 128. He received 29 bad points from that, as well as 5 negative(good) points for his LDL, 6 bad points for his Triglycerides, One bad for blood pressure. Total Points last year was 31. His (forced by the company) goal this year was to reduce his points by 18 points. Last year was the first time his Trigs were elevated, but he had exercised rather heavily that morning last year in an effort to bring his glucose down. That was a mistake last year. He was determined to not repeat the intensive exercise before testing this year.
So yesterday, at the time of his Biometrics Program's office draw, he did a finger stick and his sugar was 104. So that is awesome; If his lipid profile is not what they define as "bad", he will have met his goals.
My concern, he has been on a Ketogenic diet for 3 months, off his Statins, lost 30 pounds and ate the darn Slim Jims 4 hours before his draw in the office. He did tell the company's phlebotomist afterwards that he was not fasting, but she did not reschedule the Biometrics draw.
What are those Slim Jims going to do to his Lipid Profile? As a former Med Tech, I think the lipids will be elevated and I hope I am wrong. What is his 3 month old LCHF diet going to do? He is actively losing a lot of weight. What do you guys think?
@Aquawave, as a retired medical technologist, I understand your concerns. After retirement, I also did some Biometrics "physicals" including blood draws on occasion. Usually, but not always, we were told to reschedule people who weren't fasting if they told you that BEFORE you drew them, but never after (cost savings??).
I believe, depending on the carb content of the Slim Jim, his fbs may have been bumped up a bit for the Biometrics draw so his wellness result could actually be lower. However, his wellness draw is plasma versus whole blood for the Biometric which can also be a bit different.
There are some proponents of ending fasting for lipid panels though I haven't read the particular studies. I'm not sure if the results aren't skewed by being nonfasting or if they are looking at the long term implications of the results perhaps using a factor to adjust for the nonfasting status.
I hope you publish the results of his two panels here. It would be very interesting to see what his n=1 Slim Jim experiment results actually are.0 -
My hubby scheduled his company's Biometrics blood draw and also our doctor's wellness blood draw yesterday. That's 2 different draws in the morning. He went into the doctor's office and before they drew the blood, they asked if he was fasting. No..he had eaten 2 small Slim Jims at 6 the morning. They rescheduled that draw for 1PM, yesterday.
So he proceeds to his office to get his blood drawn there for his companies forced Biometrics program. Rather than reschedule that draw, he went ahead and got it done!!! If he has not improved since last year, they add a surcharge to his insurance.
Last year his lipid profile was great (actually lower than normal and on Statins), but his sugar was around 128. He received 29 bad points from that, as well as 5 negative(good) points for his LDL, 6 bad points for his Triglycerides, One bad for blood pressure. Total Points last year was 31. His (forced by the company) goal this year was to reduce his points by 18 points. Last year was the first time his Trigs were elevated, but he had exercised rather heavily that morning last year in an effort to bring his glucose down. That was a mistake last year. He was determined to not repeat the intensive exercise before testing this year.
So yesterday, at the time of his Biometrics Program's office draw, he did a finger stick and his sugar was 104. So that is awesome; If his lipid profile is not what they define as "bad", he will have met his goals.
My concern, he has been on a Ketogenic diet for 3 months, off his Statins, lost 30 pounds and ate the darn Slim Jims 4 hours before his draw in the office. He did tell the company's phlebotomist afterwards that he was not fasting, but she did not reschedule the Biometrics draw.
What are those Slim Jims going to do to his Lipid Profile? As a former Med Tech, I think the lipids will be elevated and I hope I am wrong. What is his 3 month old LCHF diet going to do? He is actively losing a lot of weight. What do you guys think?
@Aquawave, as a retired medical technologist, I understand your concerns. After retirement, I also did some Biometrics "physicals" including blood draws on occasion. Usually, but not always, we were told to reschedule people who weren't fasting if they told you that BEFORE you drew them, but never after (cost savings??).
I believe, depending on the carb content of the Slim Jim, his fbs may have been bumped up a bit for the Biometrics draw so his wellness result could actually be lower. However, his wellness draw is plasma versus whole blood for the Biometric which can also be a bit different.
There are some proponents of ending fasting for lipid panels though I haven't read the particular studies. I'm not sure if the results aren't skewed by being nonfasting or if they are looking at the long term implications of the results perhaps using a factor to adjust for the nonfasting status.
I hope you publish the results of his two panels here. It would be very interesting to see what his n=1 Slim Jim experiment results actually are.
The results of his first (non fasting) Biometrics, draw are are nearer to the beginning of this discussion. Those very high triglycerides (223) resulted in his failing to meet goals.
I am a retired Med Tech too, I would have been severely chastised if I did not ask if the patient was fasting, it should have been rescheduled. What is the cost of a few test tubes and a needle when health is concerned?0 -
@Aquawave - My condolences!
Next time, would he consider going on short-term statin therapy to bend his lipids toward a more corporate-desirable profile? (He could also consider taking fish oil or Tricor - or doing an extended fast - to lower his triglycerides, as well as an ACE inhinitor, like Lisinopril, for BP.)
Dumb game.....
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No need for condolences. All worked out in the end. His true fasting LDL was a bit high (119), but everything else was normal. He is taking Krill oil and is LCHF. Perhaps a LDL-particle count is in his future?
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