An EVERYTHING Diabetes Guide
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Steven Phinney's most recent video (12/16/16) from a Q&A session is a gold mine of great info, much of it especially relevant for diabetics:
https://youtu.be/5AGiUFzldwk
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Leading diabetes researcher Roger Unger argues that glucagon, not insulin, is the central player in diabetes.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3248306/pdf/JCI60016.pdfThe hormone glucagon has long been dismissed as a minor contributor to metabolic disease. Here
we propose that glucagon excess, rather than insulin deficiency, is the sine qua non of diabetes. We
base this on the following evidence:- (a) glucagon increases hepatic glucose and ketone production, catabolic features present in insulin deficiency;
- (b) hyperglucagonemia is present in every form of poorly controlled diabetes;
- (c) the glucagon suppressors leptin and somatostatin suppress all catabolic manifestations of diabetes during total insulin deficiency;
- (d) total β cell destruction in glucagon receptor–null mice does not cause diabetes; and
- (e) perfusion of normal pancreas with anti-insulin serum causes marked hyperglucagonemia.
From this and other evidence, we conclude that glucose-responsive β cells normally regulate juxtaposed α cells and that without intraislet insulin, unregulated α cells hypersecrete glucagon, which directly causes the symptoms of diabetes. This indicates that glucagon suppression or inactivation may provide therapeutic advantages over insulin monotherapy.
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Bumping so I can remember to check all this out on my desktop when I wake up later this afternoon (on shift, tablet only overnight).1
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So, diabetic experts:
Questions and answers for a T2 diabetes FAQ:How about
I'm a T2D....
Should I worry about hypoglycemia?
How long does it take to get my BG down?
How often should I test?
What will happen if I eat a lot of carbs?
How do I find a doctor who will work with me?
I'm willing to look into a Diabetes FAQ for the near future, but that's not my area of expertise... that will take a bunch of research on my part. One of the diabetic amateur experts might be better suited to contribute answers, if not them writing the whole thing. I'm good at writing and research, but nothing beats first-person experience. So if someone wants to write it, I'll edit/format. Or if they just want to collaborate with me and us all work on that, I'll fit it in. Any takers on a FAQ collaboration or any additional questions they can think of to get the ball rolling on that one?
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Some of those are going to be highly dependent upon severity and treatment.1
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midwesterner85 wrote: »Some of those are going to be highly dependent upon severity and treatment.
Perhaps if the experts here (yep, that's you) were to prepare FAQs for diabetics new to keto, then refer to the Diabetes Discussion thread and select outside resources, it would be possible to confine the thing to a manageable scope and size. ??0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »Some of those are going to be highly dependent upon severity and treatment.
Agreed. That's why this subject is a tough one to address so broadly?
Maybe pose the FAQ, then simply provide external links of various trusted sources that elaborate from there. Including potentially opposing viewpoints as even some within the low carb sometimes have.
I say that because then each person will find details within those links that either seem to fit their own situation or not and can choose which advice seems to make the most sense for them.
So it might look this
1.) Why does XYZ happen when I blah blah blah and how do I change it?
A: On this link www.somegreatinfo.com, (I hope that's not a real link lol), So-In-So explains that XYZ is related to super cool biochemistry stuff that you can affect in a positive way by being totally chill and awesome.
Also check out So-In-So Other Person's video that suggests that super cool biochemistry stuff may not be the whole answer but you can also try this other really nifty change.
Blah blah... see what I mean. Fully letting the expert explain and just organizing relevant links to external stuff specific to each question.
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I think the Low Carb RN, has some great resources.
I just read the linked blog below and though it provides no detailed suggestions or meal plans or science, it shows the obvious truth about why we each need to take charge of our own health by becoming informed regarding our unique health concerns. Regarding T2D and actually T1D as well, the typical clinical advice is going to make long term health a butterfly you'll never catch. I mean, maybe you could... but dang! You're gonna work your *kitten* off for it! Why not plant some flowers and let the butterfly come to you? (That was cute! Sometimes my brain Is fun!
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Anyway, I think the question this answers is
- WHATS WRONG WITH CURRENT ADA (or other country) STANDARD DIETARY ADVICE?
- Or WHY IS DIETARY ADVICE FOR THOSE WITH DIABETES SO BAD? As the blog I linked is titled.
I grabbed this graphic from the blog that is funny, sad and true... which is why it's sad.
It's actually a short read and will simply help solidify your very smart decision to try Low Carb if you're new and reaffirm your choice if not.
A few choice cuts...
"And can we just address the “everything in moderation” mantra once and for all? What is moderation? There is absolutely no definition when it comes to people’s eating habits. Moderation SHOULD mean…”once in a while,” or “for a special occasion.” However, moderation to a sugar addict might mean cutting back from 10 sodas per day, to 5. There is no standard of “moderation.”"
"The “everything in moderation” is the famous tagline of major food corporations. “You can have our sugar-laden death drink, or it’s sugar-free zero calorie chemical-nightmare alternative “in moderation” as long as you don’t overdo your daily calories and you exercise enough.”"
Source
https://lowcarbrn.wordpress.com/2016/01/25/why-is-dietary-advice-for-those-with-diabetes-so-bad/
Peace, love and low carb peeps!3 -
The Dawn Phenomenon
https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/dawn-phenomenon-t2d-8/2 -
Using MFP to track blood glucose, ketones, etc.
Members can add additional measurements /items to track here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/measurements/change
This is probably the best method for a measurement taken as often as once daily.
For more frequent tracking, these options might be more useful:
http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/11750-how-can-i-track-vitamins-medications-or-supplements-
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Where to Order Blood Ketone and Glucose Strips (with Insurance or Medicare)
I recently discovered this US company, which will work with your private insurance, Medicare, Medicard if you have a doctor's statement of need for blood ketone and/or blood glucose testing.
They send forms to your doctor to complete, then contact your insurer directly.
Liberty Medical
https://libertymedical.com/products/diabetes/
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retirehappy wrote: »@baconslave, 2ketodudes have a channel on youtube.com now, they have put up two parts of a three part series on fixing diabetes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuOPgCefU_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S2Z4o5CdOs
Part three coming in October.
They have some episodes addressing diabetes on the podcast channel, 2ketodudes as well. Their website has all the episodes available, no podcast app needed. Episodes 3, 8 51, 59 are especially relevent to diabetics:
http://2ketodudes.com/archives.aspx
This is Megan Ramos presenting at Ketofest 2017, she reversed her T2D and works with Dr. Jason Fung at the Intensive Dietary Management clinic which is mostly diabetics and prediabetics using food and exercise to control their health:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhPSpgsOEW4&t=2015s
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Here's a recent video by low-carb researcher and author Jeff Volek (Prof, OSU; co-founder, Virta), who has been doing research on low-carb diets for over 2 decades. He's a stick-to-the-facts speaker, no miracles and nothing to sell (other than knowledge).
THE POWER OF KETOGENIC DIETS TO REVERSE TYPE 2 DIABETES
https://www.ihmc.us/stemtalk/episode-43
Contains links to podcast, research, and background info.0 -
cstehansen wrote: »In terms of reversing, check these out:
https://www.virtahealth.com/research
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZsfluh0Uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8QFD5Ht18&index=4&list=PLrVWtWmYRR2C8Lc8kn5qAmsSewdmssmmb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxbWw5jwzHs&index=8&list=PLrVWtWmYRR2C8Lc8kn5qAmsSewdmssmmb
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baconslave wrote: »Here's a recent video by low-carb researcher and author Jeff Volek (Prof, OSU; co-founder, Virta), who has been doing research on low-carb diets for over 2 decades. He's a stick-to-the-facts speaker, no miracles and nothing to sell (other than knowledge).
THE POWER OF KETOGENIC DIETS TO REVERSE TYPE 2 DIABETES
https://www.ihmc.us/stemtalk/episode-43
Contains links to podcast, research, and background info.
Here's the YouTube version:
https://youtu.be/lobEiSgjb9Q
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Thank you for the information. I was told yesterday to start following a diabetic diet before I develop diabetes. My family has a history of diabetes both type 1 and type 2. I have just been tested and I don't have diabetes but my insulin is high and I was asked to follow the diet before I develop diabetes.1
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NewFola2012 wrote: »Thank you for the information. I was told yesterday to start following a diabetic diet before I develop diabetes. My family has a history of diabetes both type 1 and type 2. I have just been tested and I don't have diabetes but my insulin is high and I was asked to follow the diet before I develop diabetes.
Good for you getting out ahead of this. Most people/doctors don't realize high insulin is the first step toward diabetes. Dr. Joseph Kraft called it diabetes in situ.
As far as following a diabetic diet, you are in the right place. Whatever you do, do NOT follow what the ADA advises unless you want full blown T2. I know I am not the only one on here who saw A1c go up following their advice and then come down following LC.3
https://youtu.be/IhkLcpJTV9M
