How Sugar Free Spells Danger - Dr Perlmutter
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"do your best to eliminate sugar. But don’t replace it with artificial sweeteners. Your 100 trillion microbial friends living in your intestines won’t be happy with this choice and you may well pave the way for the very health conditions you’re trying to avoid"
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Haha I'm the worst for artificial sweeteners - I sink about six cans of diet coke a day. Interesting article but I'm willing to take the risk... No one is having my diet coke off me!2
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I'd rather drink a gallon of propane than using an artificial sweetener everyday. Thanks for bringing this up.3
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Wow. Well, I've definitely gotten slimmer using artificial sweeteners, but my belly is still a trouble spot (better on keto than previous WOEs, and for me it's also linked to having PCOS).
The idea of giving up even my fake sweets does make me sad, but I wonder if it would cause a breakthrough re the abdominal fat ... says the woman who has a 6-pack of Torani SF syrups arriving today at last ...3 -
I have no idea.. But I'll happily take my obsession to the grave
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I'm doing a weaning off, switchover round here. I'd cut the cream from my coffee three days ago. Next week I'm dropping my drops of liquid sucralose down to one sucralose, one liquid stevia, then down to one stevia. It'll probably take a while, but it's a worthwhile endeavor, all the same. I want healthy gut bugs. I really like to poop.5
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I wonder if taking probiotics solves the problem?3
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I think trading one addiction for another thinking the new one was the better for me was a trap for most of my life. Cutting out all processed items that I put in my body is really the only thing that seems to work the best for me. What others ingest is not my personal health concern. I do not like to be told what I should or should not eat and expect others feel the same way.
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I made a personal choice to cut artificial sweeteners in October of 2016 to see if I noticed any difference in anything. 5 months. No change in anything that I can tell. Many report artificial sweeteners are bad. Many report fats are bad. I'm pretty neutral on stuff like this.3
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nomorepuke wrote: »I'd rather drink a gallon of propane than using an artificial sweetener everyday. Thanks for bringing this up.
Do you recommend a particular brand/(natural) flavor of propane?
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I made a personal choice to cut artificial sweeteners in October of 2016 to see if I noticed any difference in anything. 5 months. No change in anything that I can tell. Many report artificial sweeteners are bad. Many report fats are bad. I'm pretty neutral on stuff like this.
I agree. It's a controversial topic that people argue back and forth. Especially the fat is the outrageously discriminated. But fat is natural and artificial sweeteners aren't.1 -
nomorepuke wrote: »I'd rather drink a gallon of propane than using an artificial sweetener everyday. Thanks for bringing this up.
Do you recommend a particular brand/(natural) flavor of propane?
Lol not really but try to get a diet propane. Diet propane maybe better than whole propane.2 -
nomorepuke wrote: »I made a personal choice to cut artificial sweeteners in October of 2016 to see if I noticed any difference in anything. 5 months. No change in anything that I can tell. Many report artificial sweeteners are bad. Many report fats are bad. I'm pretty neutral on stuff like this.
I agree. It's a controversial topic that people argue back and forth. Especially the fat is the outrageously discriminated. But fat is natural and artificial sweeteners aren't.
Only if it is free range, pasture fed, grass fed, has no additives, organic, non GMO, etc.
I'm pretty neutral on that stuff too. 6 -
I gave up a Diet Coke addiction about a year ago when I was following the Always Hungry diet. After losing 15 pounds, I decided to reward myself and had 3 glasses of Diet Coke. The next day every muscle in my body ached and my joints were especially painful. It got less and less painful through out the day and by the next morning I was fine.
Had I desensitized myself to the stuff and when I gave it up for over 3 months I was no longer desensitized? I don't know, but I have noticed that I can no longer eat aspartame. If it is in my sugar free syrup or low sugar ketchup, I feel it in my joints the next day. The other sweeteners like sugar alcohol sometimes cause me stomach pains too. So, I have to have a really bad craving to use artificial sweeteners anymore. It's just not worth the pain, like a bad hangover is not worth the drinking the night before.4 -
nomorepuke wrote: »I made a personal choice to cut artificial sweeteners in October of 2016 to see if I noticed any difference in anything. 5 months. No change in anything that I can tell. Many report artificial sweeteners are bad. Many report fats are bad. I'm pretty neutral on stuff like this.
I agree. It's a controversial topic that people argue back and forth. Especially the fat is the outrageously discriminated. But fat is natural and artificial sweeteners aren't.
Only if it is free range, pasture fed, grass fed, has no additives, organic, non GMO, etc. I'm pretty neutral on that stuff too.
Yup absolutely true! I don't think I can find any free range, pasture fed, has no additives, organic, non GMO artificial sweeteners lol2 -
nomorepuke wrote: »nomorepuke wrote: »I'd rather drink a gallon of propane than using an artificial sweetener everyday. Thanks for bringing this up.
Do you recommend a particular brand/(natural) flavor of propane?
Lol not really but try to get a diet propane. Diet propane maybe better than whole propane.
Ah, thanks for the tip. I'll look for the raspberry DP with stevia.2 -
I am also really curious if any of the diet sweeteners (e.g. stevia or maybe xylitol?) have fewer or no negative effects than others.1
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I'm curious. What's the difference between plastic fork and artificial sweetener? They're both artificial. I just wanna find out the difference.0
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Interesting that this topic came up today. Been fighting headaches for almost a week. Kept thinking I probably just needed to up my sodium but wasn't getting any relief even after doing that so started doing some online research and was finding that some artificial sweeteners can cause headaches in some people. Been using Stevia in my morning coffee and even though Stevia is considered more natural than some sweeteners I was thinking it couldn't hurt to eliminate for a bit and see what happens. Then stumbled across several articles mentioning that Stevia is indeed a member of the ragweed family. I'm definitely allergic to ragweed so thinking I've found the culprit. Time will tell I guess. But thought I'd mention for any other ragweed sufferers out there.6
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Interesting that this topic came up today. Been fighting headaches for almost a week. Kept thinking I probably just needed to up my sodium but wasn't getting any relief even after doing that so started doing some online research and was finding that some artificial sweeteners can cause headaches in some people. Been using Stevia in my morning coffee and even though Stevia is considered more natural than some sweeteners I was thinking it couldn't hurt to eliminate for a bit and see what happens. Then stumbled across several articles mentioning that Stevia is indeed a member of the ragweed family. I'm definitely allergic to ragweed so thinking I've found the culprit. Time will tell I guess. But thought I'd mention for any other ragweed sufferers out there.
Wow. That's some interesting news! Not surprising that the allergists haven't gotten around to telling you that Stevia might be a problem if your skin erupts at the ragweed patch.3 -
macchiatto wrote: »I am also really curious if any of the diet sweeteners (e.g. stevia or maybe xylitol?) have fewer or no negative effects than others.
You could try a couple ounces of each.... Please report back.
Actually, stevia by itself is extremely sweet - it might be hard to get enough to react, unless you're allergic (see above).
Xylitol is much less concentrated and can bust open the floodgates without a drop of rain.
The powdererd stevia extract (no fillers!) I get from Amazon can sweeten 16oz of coffee with 2 micropinches...
https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Stevia-Powder-Extract-Sweetener/dp/B01924GTC2/2 -
nomorepuke wrote: »I'm curious. What's the difference between plastic fork and artificial sweetener? They're both artificial. I just wanna find out the difference.
Actually neither are artificial.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »nomorepuke wrote: »I'm curious. What's the difference between plastic fork and artificial sweetener? They're both artificial. I just wanna find out the difference.
Actually neither are artificial.
Cool. I should start to melt and eat plastic forks. Let's see what happens1 -
Interesting that this topic came up today. Been fighting headaches for almost a week. Kept thinking I probably just needed to up my sodium but wasn't getting any relief even after doing that so started doing some online research and was finding that some artificial sweeteners can cause headaches in some people. Been using Stevia in my morning coffee and even though Stevia is considered more natural than some sweeteners I was thinking it couldn't hurt to eliminate for a bit and see what happens. Then stumbled across several articles mentioning that Stevia is indeed a member of the ragweed family. I'm definitely allergic to ragweed so thinking I've found the culprit. Time will tell I guess. But thought I'd mention for any other ragweed sufferers out there.
@swezeytba - I swear, I tried something from Walden's Farms and it was like instant head-split open by an axe level of a migraine. Took hours to ease up, and I literally only swiped my finger across the top seal I'd taken off to see if I wanted to try it. That stuff went back to the store with a quickness!!! They took it back as they'd had no idea that anyone without food allergies could react that way.
I don't remember ragweed being positive on my allergy tests, but I don't get headaches from Stevia. Now, the WM generic brand of it in the green squeeze bottle which has natural flavors on the label, that stuff was second only to the WF stuff... UGH.
Monkfruit is supposed to be another one that's primarily safe - but it has a very old taste to me. Lacuma Powder is supposed to be a lighter sweetener that isn't artificial...as is Yacon Syrup. Both are a little pricey but don't trigger most of the other related issues...0 -
nomorepuke wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »nomorepuke wrote: »I'm curious. What's the difference between plastic fork and artificial sweetener? They're both artificial. I just wanna find out the difference.
Actually neither are artificial.
Cool. I should start to melt and eat plastic forks. Let's see what happens
Plastic forks are made from petroleum byproducts, hence why they aren't artificial. Doesn't mean I'd recommend eating them. That's pretty much up there with most soy products on my "don't eat this" list. Soy and my body do not like each other. I imagine that's about what it would do if I ate petroleum (royal?) jelly. Blech. No thanks.1 -
I think there is a huge issue with the definition of artificial. I don't consider Stevia artificial because it derived from a plant. Yes it is processed in order to be extracted (though I'm not sure what the full extent of that processing is, if it's anything like Canola oil then I would avoid it like the plague). Yet I have come across people that avoid Stevia because they consider it artificial and has no business being consumed. I asked them if they also avoid vanilla extract because that has to be processed as well. On the other hand, I consider sucralose and aspartame artificial because they are chemically engineered.2
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »nomorepuke wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »nomorepuke wrote: »I'm curious. What's the difference between plastic fork and artificial sweetener? They're both artificial. I just wanna find out the difference.
Actually neither are artificial.
Cool. I should start to melt and eat plastic forks. Let's see what happens
Plastic forks are made from petroleum byproducts, hence why they aren't artificial. Doesn't mean I'd recommend eating them. That's pretty much up there with most soy products on my "don't eat this" list. Soy and my body do not like each other. I imagine that's about what it would do if I ate petroleum (royal?) jelly. Blech. No thanks.
How about tempeh?1 -
I have not yet discovered a soy that didn't make my insides act as if an A-bomb had been set off, but I've not specifically set out to try tempeh, but considering I had to remove fermented foods completely from my diet (maybe temporarily, to be confirmed at later date) as a migraine trigger, the double-whammy there is going to leave that at the bottom of my "to try" list...for a rainy day when surviving hellish levels of misery seems somehow possible...0
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »
@swezeytba - I swear, I tried something from Walden's Farms and it was like instant head-split open by an axe level of a migraine. Took hours to ease up, and I literally only swiped my finger across the top seal I'd taken off to see if I wanted to try it. That stuff went back to the store with a quickness!!! They took it back as they'd had no idea that anyone without food allergies could react that way.
I don't remember ragweed being positive on my allergy tests, but I don't get headaches from Stevia. Now, the WM generic brand of it in the green squeeze bottle which has natural flavors on the label, that stuff was second only to the WF stuff... UGH.
Monkfruit is supposed to be another one that's primarily safe - but it has a very old taste to me. Lacuma Powder is supposed to be a lighter sweetener that isn't artificial...as is Yacon Syrup. Both are a little pricey but don't trigger most of the other related issues...
@KnitOrMiss - Mine wasn't specifically Walden Farm's brand, but it was in a green squeeze bottle - I had one at work and one at home. They were a stevia/erythritol blend. One was a Kroger store brand and one was an Albertson's store brand so perhaps they were made by the same company? All I know is I haven't used any since Saturday and surprise, surprise no headaches since Saturday. Happy for that.
I agree I don't like the taste of the Monkfruit either....Tried that back in my CICO days.
Just tried today using straight Non-GMO erythritol that I got from Amazon in my coffee and just this afternoon in some tea. Going to take it easy and see how that goes! 1
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