Which Parts of a Meal Can Make You Sleepy? (Keith Murphy Interview)
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Neat interview with Dan Pardi (Dan's Plan) about the post-food sleepiness conundrum. You know... Thanksgiving meal doze.
Fun to read or listen to.
blog.dansplan.com/which-parts-of-a-meal-can-make-you-sleepy-keith-murphy-interview/?utm_source=Dan%27s+Plan+Members&utm_campaign=1a2153279b-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_789ba7fe2a-1a2153279b-350871293
Fun to read or listen to.
blog.dansplan.com/which-parts-of-a-meal-can-make-you-sleepy-keith-murphy-interview/?utm_source=Dan%27s+Plan+Members&utm_campaign=1a2153279b-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_789ba7fe2a-1a2153279b-350871293
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I'm kind of scared to check this out. I get that post meal sleepy aka postprandial somnolence after nearly every meal, though less so on glucophage...2
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »I'm kind of scared to check this out. I get that post meal sleepy aka postprandial somnolence after nearly every meal, though less so on glucophage...
Really? Tell!0 -
@RalfLott - Sadly, it's not consistent enough for me to draw consistent conclusions yet. I thought it was, but then I started crashing again after every meal. So frustrating!0
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Actually it's a very accessible podcast/transcript. Quite amusing fruitfly anecdotes.1
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@RalfLott - Sadly, it's not consistent enough for me to draw consistent conclusions yet. I thought it was, but then I started crashing again after every meal. So frustrating!
Yowza. I feel your pain. It seems like half the time I think I've figured something out,I was wrong, or at least too gross or hasty in the principle I was hoping to extract.
Not in the big picture stuff, like basic keto diet composition, metformin & BP meds, minimum sodium intake, etc., but in fine-tuning, like blood glucose and amount/timing of protein and metformin, vitamin amounts/timing, etc. Obviously, there's more going on than the simple models in my mind's eye.
Some day, a nose hair's worth of DNA will give us better answers, but until then, it's live and (try to) learn.0 -
@RalfLott - Have you run across this one yet? perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/08/carbohydrates-and-the-thyroid/1
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What the ???, @KnitOrMiss! Can't they figure out that every human in North America has way more 'stored glucose' than they can possibly deplete in weeks without eating carbs at all. No need to manufacture it from protein. Sheesh!2
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KnitOrMiss wrote: »@RalfLott - Have you run across this one yet? perfecthealthdiet.com/2011/08/carbohydrates-and-the-thyroid/
Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane.
I did run across this site back when I was a keto toddler. (Don't even ask whether I've progressed....) Even then it looked like *kitten* in *puppy* clothing."We do recommend ketogenic diets and low-carb diets as therapies for many neurological disorders and some infections, but believe that even ketogenic diets should generally include at least 200 glucose calories per day."
Sign me up for a bowl of ice cream with full-sugar gummi bears and ketones on top.
I did learn from the "Perfect Health" Diet folks that the despised, Polish "Optimal Health" Diet looks pretty keto.
(What's stuck in my mind is the arresting claim by the Perfect Health folks that the Poles on the Optimal Diet are dropping in waves from stomach cancer. I've got that legacy up the male side of my crooked family tree, but my attempt to chase it down bore scant fruit. Still, I'd like to know if there are any secrets for beating T2D and warding off gastric cancer.....)
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Well, I don't know what exactly they have in mind by "glucose calorie" but it sounds like sugar, rather than starch or fiber, so that glucose carbs either start as a sugar or turn rapidly to glucose as you chew, like bread or corn flakes.
Downing 50g of simple carbs in one sitting or in a 6-hour eating window seems like a lot for many people on ketogenic diets, especially the ones who, for whatever reason, can't handle more than 25 - 30 net carbs in a day.0 -
Well, I don't know what exactly they have in mind by "glucose calorie" but it sounds like sugar, rather than starch or fiber, so that glucose carbs either start as a sugar or turn rapidly to glucose as you chew, like bread or corn flakes.
Downing 50g of simple carbs in one sitting or in a 6-hour eating window seems like a lot for many people on ketogenic diets, especially the ones who, for whatever reason, can't handle more than 25 - 30 net carbs in a day.
Glucose calorie from the PHD, to my understanding is a carb calorie, as it is any calorie whose primary conversion results in glucose. Simple, complex, no matter.1 -
KnitOrMiss wrote: »Well, I don't know what exactly they have in mind by "glucose calorie" but it sounds like sugar, rather than starch or fiber, so that glucose carbs either start as a sugar or turn rapidly to glucose as you chew, like bread or corn flakes.
Downing 50g of simple carbs in one sitting or in a 6-hour eating window seems like a lot for many people on ketogenic diets, especially the ones who, for whatever reason, can't handle more than 25 - 30 net carbs in a day.
Glucose calorie from the PHD, to my understanding is a carb calorie, as it is any calorie whose primary conversion results in glucose. Simple, complex, no matter.
Thanks for the clarification. I should have dug deeper. I wonder why they don't just call it a carb calorie?0
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