Cheat meals?
hmikkola92
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I've only been doing keto for 2 weeks now. But I'm going to a market that I haven't been to in years. They have delicious carbs everywhere. Basically I'm wondering how bad it would screw me over to eat an apple fritter. Lol. I won't be going back for years likely and I do want to have exception days for special occasions. What should I do...
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At 2 weeks in, I'm not sure I'd want to risk it just yet. I'd try and wait a month or two before flirting with extra carbs. However, I shouldn't really talk, I had a cheat meal this morning.
Stupid sandwich wrap, and it wasn't even that good. I didn't feel like cooking and it was there and I felt like a sandwich. I don't feel guilty about it though. It reminded me that all the stuff I'm 'missing' isn't actually that great. And I'm sure it'll be another 6 months before the next time I feel like a sandwich lol.
I guess my point is, if you do decide to go off-script, enjoy it and don't beat yourself up over it afterwards. But try not to make it a routine?
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From my experience, it isn't worth it. I had two weeks done with success and had a cheat meal... cheat day... cheat week... it never ended.3
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It will definitely knock you out of ketosis, but my own personal thinking is that I will be much more likely to stick with this Ketogenic lifestyle diet if I don't force myself to deprive myself of those VERY RARE "special occasion" treats. If I force myself to be super strict & NEVER sway from this WOE, then I know I will just be miserable & wanting to stop all together, sooner or later.
For example, I've been doing Keto for a little over 2 months now. Last month I went to Vegas (which doesn't happen often) for 5 days & twice during my stay there I ate a good amount of carb-loaded desserts. Other than that though, I've been 100% dedicated to Keto. So basically 2 out of my last 210 meals (approximately 70 days doing Keto x 3 meals a day) isn't too bad, in my opinion. Like I said..... VERY RARE special occasions.... as long as you know you that it won't lead to a downward spiral.
When I think of all the great health benefits that Keto delivers, it's very easy for me to stick with it.5 -
Thanks guys. The way I'm looking at it is I've stuck to this for 2 weeks now without so much as a craving. I don't miss anything I used to eat, because I enjoy what I eat now. Nothing I can eat usually is worth going off this for. The fritters are just WAYYY too good. And I know that I will stick to it after. It's a lot less daunting too, knowing I can very occasionally have carbs and sugar, rather than never again. It is just bad timing, as it's only been 2 weeks. I think I'll have the damn fritter and go right back to it until like, Christmas lol.2
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I'm going to predict that you don't feel well after eating it and have regret...
this may create a change in your mind where you decide you don't need to allow exceptions.
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@food_lover16 - Are you back on the wagon?food_lover16 wrote: »From my experience, it isn't worth it. I had two weeks done with success and had a cheat meal... cheat day... cheat week... it never ended.hmikkola92 wrote: »I've only been doing keto for 2 weeks now. But I'm going to a market that I haven't been to in years. They have delicious carbs everywhere. Basically I'm wondering how bad it would screw me over to eat an apple fritter. Lol. I won't be going back for years likely and I do want to have exception days for special occasions. What should I do...
@hmikkola92, I think you have your answer!
(Unless you're imagining you're the one in a thousand who can embrace temptation just once....)
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In my opinion, 2 weeks into LCHF is too short a time to risk shooting yourself in the foot (which, let's face it, is what you are setting yourself up to do here). Be strong. Don't cave. Get into YOUR kitchen and make yourself some healthy sweet treats!!! This should help:
http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2014/10/low-carb-apple-fritters-recipe-gluten-free.html5 -
And don't let thoughts of an apple fritter make you forget your feelings just a day or two ago...hmikkola92 wrote: »Thanks guys. I have 100lbs to lose to be content. And then I could lose 40 more to be slim. I mostly just want it to be as quick as possible. I know it will slow down eventually, but i don't want to hinder my progress for a few bites of dark chocolate or fruit. I just sometimes drool a little when I think of sweets, my weakness
Keep in mind too, you don't have to eat the whole thing to have its taste, but once it hits your tongue, you've activated the addictive mechanism that will do everything in its power to prevent you from stopping at just a taste.
You're not fat adapted so cheating this soon will throw a wrench in adaptation. I'm not even saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying make the choice fully aware.3 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »And don't let thoughts of an apple fritter make you forget your feelings just a day or two ago...
Keep in mind too, you don't have to eat the whole thing to have its taste, but once it hits your tongue, you've activated the addictive mechanism that will do everything in its power to prevent you from stopping at just a taste.
You're not fat adapted so cheating this soon will throw a wrench in adaptation. I'm not even saying you shouldn't do it, I'm just saying make the choice fully aware.
Second what @Sunny_Bunny_ said above. I know it may seem like I'm picking on you. I'm not (honestly!); however, I've been where you are right now once upon a time too and because you are likely not fat adapted at this point, eating that apple fritter will likely start you on the slippery slope to falling off the wagon...and you've only just gotten on.3 -
hmikkola92 wrote: »Thanks guys. The way I'm looking at it is I've stuck to this for 2 weeks now without so much as a craving. I don't miss anything I used to eat, because I enjoy what I eat now. Nothing I can eat usually is worth going off this for. The fritters are just WAYYY too good. And I know that I will stick to it after. It's a lot less daunting too, knowing I can very occasionally have carbs and sugar, rather than never again. It is just bad timing, as it's only been 2 weeks. I think I'll have the damn fritter and go right back to it until like, Christmas lol.
BTW.... If I were to indulge in a high carb treat like that, then I would take some kind of fiber supplement right before the indulgence & then follow up with an intense workout later that same day (or for the next several days in a row). I'm NOT saying that it will make it alright or anything, but that's just what I would do personally.3 -
I'm actually not going to do it. It's not worth it at all. I'll wait until I'm further in to allow myself anything like that. Only on holidays. I've lost 8lbs now and I don't want to screw myself over. I ate just the meat topping off pizza with no sauce the other day lol. I think I'll get over not having a fritter.
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I'm trying to quit smoking too, and you can't have "just one". It starts the whole thing over again. It's torturing yourself. Bleh I wish I could just stop having a little fat kid in my head.3
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STRONK!
If you knock off the smoking and lose the weight you're gonna live to be 120. You'll have plenty of opportunities to grub on a fritter before your 120th birthday. Besides, who needs cheat meals when we can eat bacon with impunity?7 -
I had a strawberry milkshake from cold stone creamery a couple weeks in...then I binged the entire weekend. I had no self control. I regretted it so much. I gained back weight and it took me a solid 2 weeks for the scale to get back down to where I was before. I felt like garbage for an entire week after eating that crap, heart burn, diarrhea, anxiety. I wanted that milkshake so bad and I binged because I just wasn't satisfied. The milkshake didn't make me all warm and fuzzy like I thought it would, it didn't even taste as good as I had imagined. I say it's not worth it, I definitely learned that lesson the hard way.3
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Knowing what your triggers are snd why you want to eat what you want is so important. Its knowledge that for me has taken a long time to learn and knowledge I still suss out. I think the term "mindful" is terribly over used and rarely used appropriately but in this case, it really is about mindful eating.
Why do I want it? Tradition? Feelings of deprivation? Habit? I find if I can honestly answer the question I'm better able to make a clear headed decision,about the food and not just a reaction to the food.1 -
@food_lover16 - Are you back on the wagon?food_lover16 wrote: »From my experience, it isn't worth it. I had two weeks done with success and had a cheat meal... cheat day... cheat week... it never ended.
I'm still trying. I am really struggling to get through the first three days. There's always a reason.. stomach bug, kidney infection, trip out of town.... birthday. I've been trying to figure out the mental/emotional part so I can get through the sugar withdrawals.0 -
hmikkola92 wrote: »I'm trying to quit smoking too, and you can't have "just one". It starts the whole thing over again. It's torturing yourself. Bleh I wish I could just stop having a little fat kid in my head.
Changing the "voice" in our own heads is the hardest part I think.
I just want to recognize you for what a huge step saying these words really is. Think about what just happened here.
You asked a question that didn't get a lot of support for your idea in the responses and instead of getting defensive or going silent, you acknowledge a significant personal struggle.
I really hope you see the significance of that. That's a good NSV in my opinion. I think the mental aspects of making any life changes are really what it's all about.
If you can attend that event and push the apple fritter thoughts away and enjoy the options that work better with your goals, you are going to feel like a rock star!!!! And rightly so!
Don't make it about "I can't have that", make it "I don't want that and I'll have something else instead and it's going to be great"
I also want to say, that we will all still be here for support even if you decide to go off plan, but we will sure do our best to advocate for the goals you are seeking and will try to prevent a full on jump off the wagon if we can.
You got this low carb life girl!
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I've learned the hard way over the past few months that even a bit of sugar leads to a binge, for me. There's this barrier in my brain that gets broken, as soon as I eat that first bite, I'm already planning what I'm going to binge eat next, because I've already been switched out of ketosis.
My mind playing tricks on me.1 -
I've shared this short 16 minute video in this forum before. Perhaps this an appropriate thread to share it again. I'll suggest some folks might want to bookmark it and listen to it many times for each time you actually listen, you might hear something different especially when you are in the depths of fighting thoughts/feelings/cravings/etc. It can be one of the many tools in a toolbox that help those who give more value/power to food than food really has. It is just food. Hope someone/several hear the message of the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TIpQsOAHU
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food_lover16 wrote: »
@food_lover16 - Are you back on the wagon?food_lover16 wrote: »From my experience, it isn't worth it. I had two weeks done with success and had a cheat meal... cheat day... cheat week... it never ended.
I'm still trying. I am really struggling to get through the first three days. There's always a reason.. stomach bug, kidney infection, trip out of town.... birthday. I've been trying to figure out the mental/emotional part so I can get through the sugar withdrawals.
Have you tried mentally rebranding sweets as Drano?2 -
In my opinion, 2 weeks into LCHF is too short a time to risk shooting yourself in the foot (which, let's face it, is what you are setting yourself up to do here). Be strong. Don't cave. Get into YOUR kitchen and make yourself some healthy sweet treats!!! This should help:
http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2014/10/low-carb-apple-fritters-recipe-gluten-free.html
Two weeks in, I went to a one day event. I had brought snacks with me, but when I saw their food, I thought "I'll have one bowl of chili, skip the beans, and half a bun." Which then became 'I'll have a handleful of chips" which became half the bag. Then I had mashed potatoes, gravy, corn, stuffing, etc. And a lot of booze. It was a serious bender, and I felt so angry after-All the work I did was erased.
And I thought one bite wouldn't hurt.
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I've shared this short 16 minute video in this forum before. Perhaps this an appropriate thread to share it again. I'll suggest some folks might want to bookmark it and listen to it many times for each time you actually listen, you might hear something different especially when you are in the depths of fighting thoughts/feelings/cravings/etc. It can be one of the many tools in a toolbox that help those who give more value/power to food than food really has. It is just food. Hope someone/several hear the message of the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TIpQsOAHU
Wow - thank you for this! I just finished watching it and I loved it. It's now bookmarked 3
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